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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2018, 10:52:11 AM »
That's false and made up in your heads, but whatever. He's an embarrassment and he also wasn't always a "Republican".

He's the same as he's always been. The republican platform has changed to accommodate him.
Just as the Democratic party tried to do with Bernie.

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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2018, 10:55:01 AM »
That's false and made up in your heads, but whatever. He's an embarrassment and he also wasn't always a "Republican".

He's the same as he's always been. The republican platform has changed to accommodate him.
Just as the Democratic party tried to do with Bernie.

If Bernie had won, the democratic party would have changed a lot, too.

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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2018, 10:55:36 AM »
That's false and made up in your heads, but whatever. He's an embarrassment and he also wasn't always a "Republican".
What's false?  He's sitting at 90% over the last two weeks.  The low was 77% in december. 
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx




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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2018, 10:56:12 AM »
That's false and made up in your heads, but whatever. He's an embarrassment and he also wasn't always a "Republican".

He's the same as he's always been. The republican platform has changed to accommodate him.
Just as the Democratic party tried to do with Bernie.

Honestly I would say just like Bernie did to the Democratic party. The shift to the far left may have been slowly coming but he accelerated that change tenfold.

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2018, 10:58:15 AM »
True. He created a divide enough to make Trump possible.

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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2018, 10:58:41 AM »
That's false and made up in your heads, but whatever. He's an embarrassment and he also wasn't always a "Republican".
What's false?  He's sitting at 90% over the last two weeks.  The low was 77% in december. 
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

I would assume he was talking about the idea that all pubs have either left the party or become Trump supporters.

Is it possible the majority of the electorate just doesn't care about politics as long as their outlook on life is positive? For now they might feel great about their future because of the state of the economy and remain ignorant to the minutiae because they don't follow any reliable news source.

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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2018, 10:58:58 AM »
Which all sounds like I am in denial. Maybe I am, or maybe the numbers don't say what many in this thread would assume they do?

it does sound like you are in denial.  i don't think the numbers are quite 90%, but it's pretty close.  their support doesn't imply that they agree with each and every action or utterance but it certainly implies that they broadly approve of his presidency.
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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2018, 10:59:27 AM »
That's false and made up in your heads, but whatever. He's an embarrassment and he also wasn't always a "Republican".
What's false?  He's sitting at 90% over the last two weeks.  The low was 77% in december. 
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

I would assume he was talking about the idea that all pubs have either left the party or become Trump supporters.

Is it possible the majority of the electorate just doesn't care about politics as long as their outlook on life is positive? For now they might feel great about their future because of the state of the economy and remain ignorant to the minutiae because they don't follow any reliable news source.
Yeah. This.

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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2018, 11:00:19 AM »
remain ignorant to the minutiae because they don't follow any reliable news source.

ignorance is a choice.
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2018, 11:02:07 AM »
Which all sounds like I am in denial. Maybe I am, or maybe the numbers don't say what many in this thread would assume they do?

it does sound like you are in denial.  i don't think the numbers are quite 90%, but it's pretty close.  their support doesn't imply that they agree with each and every action or utterance but it certainly implies that they broadly approve of his presidency.

I commented just above this that it could be based on a general complacency coming from their outlook on their lives specifically. I have met a lot of people who don't follow politics like we do who could easily be ignorant to both the domestic and foreign politicking that we see on the daily news.

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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2018, 11:04:17 AM »
remain ignorant to the minutiae because they don't follow any reliable news source.

ignorance is a choice.

100% agree and it is a choice that many in the electorate choose without a second of hesitation. My main argument against giving absolute power to the popular vote in the presidential election. That is a different discussion, so we don't have to talk about it here, but I will say openly that I don't trust our electorate to make rational decisions on public policy.

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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2018, 11:10:10 AM »
That's false and made up in your heads, but whatever. He's an embarrassment and he also wasn't always a "Republican".
What's false?  He's sitting at 90% over the last two weeks.  The low was 77% in december. 
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

I would assume he was talking about the idea that all pubs have either left the party or become Trump supporters.

Is it possible the majority of the electorate just doesn't care about politics as long as their outlook on life is positive? For now they might feel great about their future because of the state of the economy and remain ignorant to the minutiae because they don't follow any reliable news source.
Well if you trust gallup polling, those are the two explanations for the 90% approval rating. 

I assume a lot of people were relatively comfortable (economically speaking) under Obama, but I'd bet his approval rating among republicans was a small fraction of 90%.  It's a matter of prioritizing values.   I'm fine with some of what Trump has done, but until he gets the border figured out I certainly wouldn't say I approve of him.


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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2018, 11:15:08 AM »
Which all sounds like I am in denial. Maybe I am, or maybe the numbers don't say what many in this thread would assume they do?

it does sound like you are in denial.  i don't think the numbers are quite 90%, but it's pretty close.  their support doesn't imply that they agree with each and every action or utterance but it certainly implies that they broadly approve of his presidency.

He's not in denial.  This board (left) wants so badly to paint every Republican out to be a Trump supporter when in fact that isn't true.  Each side has become so polarized that it makes having a discussion impossible.  I've enjoyed reading the views of both sides of a topic when they come with arguments based with support of that argument.  There are several posters on both sides that come with nothing more than disdain for anyone with an opposing view, like libliblib.  Zero credibility.
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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2018, 11:17:10 AM »
Hey bro, it's not my fault the modern republican party is exclusively for pos's
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« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2018, 11:19:45 AM »
He's not in denial.  This board (left) wants so badly to paint every Republican out to be a Trump supporter when in fact that isn't true.

the statement was supported by data where republicans were asked if they supported trump or not and 90% of them voluntarily responded that they did.
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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2018, 11:22:05 AM »
Dem inaction and politicized meltdowns, coupled with fund raising off of politicized meltdowns is huge POS work.

But, I won't start another thread.

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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2018, 11:23:16 AM »
I still don't believe that number. What "republicans" are voting? I don't know how they do those polls, but whoever is doing it, are probably the same ppl that had Hillary winning by a landslide.

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« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2018, 11:23:48 AM »
He's not in denial.  This board (left) wants so badly to paint every Republican out to be a Trump supporter when in fact that isn't true.

the statement was supported by data where republicans were asked if they supported trump or not and 90% of them voluntarily responded that they did.

Based on what polling again?  And was it just one?  And we believe it because it fits what "our" side wants to believe?  :jerk:
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« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2018, 11:26:12 AM »
The approval numbers surprised me too.  If you can find numbers that dispute the overwhelming republican approval of trump by republicans I'd be eager (and relieved) to see them.


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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2018, 11:28:09 AM »
Based on what polling again?  And was it just one?  And we believe it because it fits what "our" side wants to believe?  :jerk:

we believe it because it is the best data available and any honest person attempts to believe that which is real.


there are many other polls that have found broadly concordant results. as i stated earlier in this thread, ignorance is a choice.
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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2018, 11:28:41 AM »
So we are back to feels instead of data, and I'm the one with zero credibility...  :shy:
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« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2018, 11:29:14 AM »
Trump’s current approval rating is its highest ever around 40%. If the pub leaning posters here believe how much Trump is hated by Dems, what do you suppose his approval among Republicans would have to be in order to reach that number?

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« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2018, 11:32:21 AM »
I'm a registered republican because I live in Kansas and want to vote against Kobach for governor. I really don't see myself voting republican in any general election in the near future, though.

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« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2018, 11:34:35 AM »
I'm a registered republican because I live in Kansas and want to vote against Kobach for governor. I really don't see myself voting republican in any general election in the near future, though.

oh, oops.  i just called you a former republican in another thread.  you can correct that if you still consider yourself to be a republican in any sense greater than as a formality required for ballot access.
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« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2018, 11:36:44 AM »
You can't appeal to Republicans/POS's with facts, stats, science, etc. It's just not their thing.