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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2018, 02:37:34 AM »
because being a perpetual bubble team is stupid and lame
I'm mixed on oscar, sometimes we look very good and sometimes we look confused. I think we should let this offense develop before rushing to conclusions though. Give him credit for an early defensive focus, with understanding how offensive flow will come with experience...take the growing,pains,and teachable,moments along the way (e.g., The Flush ever since @KU). We have players. We have D. We can have O.

Frank had one stellar season at K-State and we bung the moon for him, but couldn't get past S16 with one of the best teams we've had and was close or on the bubble for at least half of our bids. He relies on berated effort and a clutch player. I honestly don't see Frank developing much out of anyone who wouldn't have done it without him anyway...a la Pullen. Kelly, maybe? His key to success is recruiting, pure and simple. At least BW, as awkward as he is, knows bball.

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Meh, you could argue oscar has recruited better and done less with more.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2018, 05:59:48 AM »
losing to lasalle was inexcusable

I don't care about that much at all. The fact that he hasn't even sniffed another attempt at a LaSalle situation is far, far worse.


no losing to la salle in a de facto home game with hot rod and angel is unforgiveable

We lost a 4-13 game in the tournament, bfd, no one liked that team anyway despite them winning a conference championship
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2018, 07:54:55 AM »
https://twitter.com/ryanablack/status/958198992504008704
oscar believes he is untouchable and up until this point the administration hasn't given him any reason to think otherwise.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2018, 08:15:10 AM »
because being a perpetual bubble team is stupid and lame
I'm mixed on oscar, sometimes we look very good and sometimes we look confused. I think we should let this offense develop before rushing to conclusions though. Give him credit for an early defensive focus, with understanding how offensive flow will come with experience...take the growing,pains,and teachable,moments along the way (e.g., The Flush ever since @KU). We have players. We have D. We can have O.

Frank had one stellar season at K-State and we bung the moon for him, but couldn't get past S16 with one of the best teams we've had and was close or on the bubble for at least half of our bids. He relies on berated effort and a clutch player. I honestly don't see Frank developing much out of anyone who wouldn't have done it without him anyway...a la Pullen. Kelly, maybe? His key to success is recruiting, pure and simple. At least BW, as awkward as he is, knows bball.

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Meh, you could argue oscar has recruited better and done less with more.
Yeah I would probably make that argument

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2018, 08:29:59 AM »
How come I don't love Oscar?

50-49 in Big 12 play in year 6.  He'll probably even out after this weekend. :buh-bye: :sdeek:
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2018, 09:10:46 AM »
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article197332844.html

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The goal is still there, and that is to get to the NCAA Tournament.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2018, 09:17:21 AM »
So he is using a tragedy to justify the performance of a team for an entire season?  If I recall, the World Series winning Royals in 2015 had like 3 family members pass away. 

If the administration won't call oscar out on his bullshit, he will continue to sling this verbal poo. 
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2018, 09:18:42 AM »
What was the tragedy?

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2018, 09:21:04 AM »
His use of excuses and lowering expectations is second to none.  Seriously, has there ever been a coach that makes more excuses than oscar?

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2018, 09:24:05 AM »
Didn't the asst coach son pass away before the season started?
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #88 on: January 30, 2018, 09:29:59 AM »
Didn't the asst coach son pass away before the season started?

That was late 2016.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #89 on: January 30, 2018, 09:42:28 AM »
Didn't the asst coach son pass away before the season started?

That was late 2016.

 :lol:  My bad.  I laugh because the tragedy can be no other reason than Stoke's inury.  Pretty dramatic response from oscar. 

Unless....he is talking about the Snyder tragedy (I really hope he is not). 
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2018, 09:44:02 AM »
What was the tragedy?

stokes?
CAS and i were listening to that live and asked the same question.  I thought Stokes, he guessed the Snyder death.


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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2018, 09:46:13 AM »
What was the tragedy?

stokes?
CAS and i were listening to that live and asked the same question.  I thought Stokes, he guessed the Snyder death.

ah. did anyone follow up?

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2018, 09:46:41 AM »
Tragedy was poor word choice, but I wasn't surprised by it.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #93 on: January 30, 2018, 09:47:16 AM »
Tragedy was poor word choice, but I wasn't surprised by it.

what is he talking about?

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #94 on: January 30, 2018, 09:47:24 AM »
My serious guess is Snyder. But also could be getting jobbed in Lawrence and losing by 1 point.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #95 on: January 30, 2018, 09:54:53 AM »
As of now. Accountability and not being able to admit to his own faults. The man needs direction, but he is the head coach so he should be the one leading, not needing a leader

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #96 on: January 30, 2018, 10:09:26 AM »
I guess he just accidentally said tragedy instead of injury and also forgot about any injuries that any opponents had.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #97 on: January 30, 2018, 11:22:38 AM »
The man has coached basketball for decades yet a simple zone against his team looked like the unsolvable riddle. It was incredible how bad it was

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2018, 11:39:59 AM »
The man has coached basketball for decades yet a simple zone against his team looked like the unsolvable riddle. It was incredible how bad it was

Almost as baffling: Self didn't start the second half in zone

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2018, 11:43:31 AM »
The man has coached basketball for decades yet a simple zone against his team looked like the unsolvable riddle. It was incredible how bad it was

Almost as baffling: Self didn't start the second half in zone

Well Self is a good coach and he probably assumed oscar would make a change to combat it.  Obviously Self was wrong for thinking that.