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How come we don't love Oscar?
« on: January 26, 2018, 06:27:16 AM »
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I hear in the outback comments such as "we like him", "nice man", decent, but no one says they love him.  Not like my demented KU buddies say about Bill; they love him.   People said that they loved Martin.  I have not really remember Weber saying he loves his players or the fans.  Manhattan, yes.  His family, yes.  I am sure he has expressed affectionate thoughts towards players, fans, and the school, but I can recall them.  He is not convincing.  Ol' Snyder still makes a connection to fans, the common fan. I miss this with Weber.


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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 06:43:41 AM »
Losing to LaSalle. Losing the program basically and having to rebuild. Being goofy and awkward.

If he beats LaSalle and goes to the Sweet 16 in year one some of this is moot.

If he doesn't lose Foster and others, he's our lovable goofy coach for sure right now.

If he completes this rebuild and has success the next 2 seasons including at least 1 second weekend appearance in the NCAAs, he probably still becomes our lovable goofy coach. (to many, I realize some aren't coming back)

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 07:15:42 AM »
Well I don’t like him because he’s not Frank and does the opposite of what Frank would do in almost every situation (win NCAA games, be loved by his players, be accountable, be charismatic, it goes on)


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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 07:33:20 AM »
For me it has been the accountability since the end of year one. When he spent his entire press conferences after the KU and LaSalle losses throwing his players under the bus, backing it up, and running over them again, I was out forever. Given that he has repeated this throughout his tenure, I see no reason to change.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 07:56:51 AM »
For me it has been the accountability since the end of year one. When he spent his entire press conferences after the KU and LaSalle losses throwing his players under the bus, backing it up, and running over them again, I was out forever. Given that he has repeated this throughout his tenure, I see no reason to change.

Yup, this is the worst thing about him, even worse than the losing
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 08:19:39 AM »
Well I don’t like him because he’s not Frank and does the opposite of what Frank would do in almost every situation (win NCAA games, be loved by his players, be accountable, be charismatic, it goes on)


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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 08:38:28 AM »
wacky, not sure what you're wanting here.

can i add that #askfran makes him look like such a crybaby bitch?

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 08:53:53 AM »
Never mind, I can't find the post where someone was making fun of bringing up Frank so much. I thought it was you.  :frown:

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 08:56:20 AM »
oh it def was me, but only because you brought up frank.  it's all good bruh

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 08:57:24 AM »
Losing to LaSalle. Losing the program basically and having to rebuild. Being goofy and awkward.

If he beats LaSalle and goes to the Sweet 16 in year one some of this is moot.

If he doesn't lose Foster and others, he's our lovable goofy coach for sure right now.

If he completes this rebuild and has success the next 2 seasons including at least 1 second weekend appearance in the NCAAs, he probably still becomes our lovable goofy coach. (to many, I realize some aren't coming back)

I wouldn't like him any more if he had gone to the sweet 16 that year. If anything, that would have made the last few years even harder to take. He needs to finish this year strong and have a better team next year for me to consider liking him.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 08:59:07 AM »
oh it def was me, but only because you brought up frank.  it's all good bruh
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 09:00:17 AM »
Takes more than a 3 game winning streak for me to forgive him his failures

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 09:00:44 AM »
Well I don’t like him because he’s not Frank and does the opposite of what Frank would do in almost every situation (win NCAA games, be loved by his players, be accountable, be charismatic, it goes on)

His guys are very loyal to him.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 09:03:50 AM »
His press conferences and excuses. That's really it for me. He can't help his voice. It's endearing when he wins.

Love ppl who bitch about him getting outside of the coaches box for over trying however.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 09:08:37 AM »
his non con scheduling makes it hard to get excited about basketball every year

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2018, 09:10:28 AM »
He called Mr Kstate Ernie Barnett, I can't ever forgive that.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2018, 09:11:04 AM »
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2018, 09:12:14 AM »
Takes more than a 3 game winning streak for me to forgive him his failures

Correction, a 3 game winning streak in the tournament might win me over

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2018, 09:12:20 AM »
What's worse: 1) physically abusing players on national tv, or 2) sayimg they didn't play well in a post game presser?
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2018, 09:15:51 AM »
What's worse: 1) physically abusing players on national tv, or 2) sayimg they didn't play well in a post game presser?

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2018, 09:17:07 AM »
Well I don’t like him because he’s not Frank and does the opposite of what Frank would do in almost every situation (win NCAA games, be loved by his players, be accountable, be charismatic, it goes on)

His guys are very loyal to him.
Yeah, not sure where that statement came from. The guys who have stuck around love oscar and the staff.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2018, 09:22:48 AM »
physically abusing players on national tv

oscar did this too a season or 2 ago. Maybe someone with a better memory can find it again.

Also, if he won a national championship I'd still want him fired Tuesday morning.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2018, 09:32:58 AM »
My principles will not be sullied by such a frivolous thing as program success. :don'tcare:

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2018, 09:39:36 AM »
Well I don’t like him because he’s not Frank and does the opposite of what Frank would do in almost every situation (win NCAA games, be loved by his players, be accountable, be charismatic, it goes on)

His guys are very loyal to him.
Yeah, not sure where that statement came from. The guys who have stuck around love oscar and the staff.

He's had two players in like 6 years that have seemed to really, genuinely enjoy him. They are both still on the team. You guys are suffering from an acute case of recency bias.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2018, 09:40:01 AM »
He's a dork.

Which means he has to win at a higher rate than a non-dork.  He has flirted with that rate, but has usually been just below it.  This year is his chance though.