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Re: Ppl who root against this university for their own agenda
« Reply #226 on: March 16, 2018, 01:29:56 PM »
I'm with Pete.  We can't move forward till oscar is gone.  We all knew oscar wasn't the answer when he was hired, and it's only been confirmed over the last 6 years.  I don't understand why people are ok with oscar now.  He has succeeded in lowering our expectations. 

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« Reply #228 on: March 16, 2018, 01:40:22 PM »
I mean, I don’t care too much, but the main reason I want them to win is because oscar won’t be fired anyway. Hell, there is an article in the Star today saying he should come back and the game hasn’t even been played.

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« Reply #229 on: March 16, 2018, 01:44:47 PM »
As long as oscar makes the tourney, he's here forever and I still can't believe some of you can't get over that yet. One elite 8 run and this fan base turned themselves into thinking they're Duke. It's getting really sad.

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« Reply #230 on: March 16, 2018, 01:49:26 PM »
i think it's the winning at least 1 ncaa game 4 out of 5 years that got us thinking we were a competent b12 program.
to follow that up with 0 for 5 kinda stings

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« Reply #231 on: March 16, 2018, 01:55:47 PM »
As long as oscar makes the tourney, he's here forever and I still can't believe some of you can't get over that yet. One elite 8 run and this fan base turned themselves into thinking they're Duke. It's getting really sad.

Sure I guess. I don’t think anyone can reasonably expect consistent elite 8 runs, but can we maybe expect more than being the 68th best team in the country each year?

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« Reply #232 on: March 16, 2018, 01:55:58 PM »
Yet when I try to bring up coaching options, nobody has the answer for it. Weird!

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« Reply #233 on: March 16, 2018, 01:57:05 PM »
As long as oscar makes the tourney, he's here forever and I still can't believe some of you can't get over that yet. One elite 8 run and this fan base turned themselves into thinking they're Duke. It's getting really sad.

Sure I guess. I don’t think anyone can reasonably expect consistent elite 8 runs, but can we maybe expect more than being the 68th best team in the country each year?

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« Reply #234 on: March 16, 2018, 02:00:40 PM »
I'm with Pete.  We can't move forward till oscar is gone.  We all knew oscar wasn't the answer when he was hired, and it's only been confirmed over the last 6 years.  I don't understand why people are ok with oscar now.  He has succeeded in lowering our expectations.

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« Reply #235 on: March 16, 2018, 02:00:55 PM »
i think it's the winning at least 1 ncaa game 4 out of 5 years that got us thinking we were a competent b12 program.
to follow that up with 0 for 5 kinda stings

Post those thresholds again, I think it perfectly sums up how elite Franks tourney performance was relative to the competition.  IIRC we are one year from going from elite tier to garbage tier.
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« Reply #236 on: March 16, 2018, 02:16:31 PM »
As long as oscar makes the tourney, he's here forever and I still can't believe some of you can't get over that yet. One elite 8 run and this fan base turned themselves into thinking they're Duke. It's getting really sad.

Sure I guess. I don’t think anyone can reasonably expect consistent elite 8 runs, but can we maybe expect more than being the 68th best team in the country each year?

TIA

You understand how the automatic bids work for the small conference champs, right?  Being one of the last at-large bids doesn't = 68th in the country.  That said, i'm somewhere in the middle on this.  The memories of the E8 run might lead me to have too high of expectations but 0 NCAA wins is unacceptable.

As dlew said, i've tried both and rooting for KSU is more fun than not.
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« Reply #237 on: March 16, 2018, 02:24:59 PM »
i think it's the winning at least 1 ncaa game 4 out of 5 years that got us thinking we were a competent b12 program.
to follow that up with 0 for 5 kinda stings

Post those thresholds again, I think it perfectly sums up how elite Franks tourney performance was relative to the competition.  IIRC we are one year from going from elite tier to garbage tier.

if you want to use a 10 year span of tournament results to judge a program, maybe we can come up with some tiers

A++ tier (3+ final fours) 4 schools
A+ tier (2+ final fours) 11 schools
A tier (2+ elite eights) 21 schools
B+ tier (1+ final four) 23 schools
B tier (1+ elite eight) 34 schools
B tier (2+ sweet sixteens) 35 schools
C tier (1+ sweet sixteen) 59 schools
Trash tier (no sweet sixteens) no idea how many, probably a crap ton like 292 or something

the Trash tier could probably be split up into schools that have made the tournament at least X number of times, and schools that have not, but that's more work and it doesn't matter

i initially had messed up the number of B tier schools, so now i left 2 definitions of B tier (1+ elite 8, or 2+ sweet 16s)

specifically for the last decade, this means that all these schools are in the B tier:
2+ sweet 16s, no elite 8:
indiana, purdue, iowa state, miami, nc state, san diego state, stanford

1 sweet 16, 1 elite 8:
davidson, texas, missouri, pittsburgh, kansas state, dayton
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« Reply #238 on: March 16, 2018, 02:38:27 PM »
dixon's tournament history at pittsburgh:

04 S16 - conf champs
05 Rof64
06 Rof32
07 S16
08 Rof32 - conf tourney champs
09 E8
10 Rof32
11 Rof32 - conf champs
12 CBI champs
13 Rof32
14 Rof32
15 NIT 1st round
16 Rof64

by my count that's 13 NCAA wins in 13 years, which is absolutely a great run for a non-blue blood p5 school.

it's disingenuous to compare his success at Pitt to oscar's tenure at KSU so far

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« Reply #239 on: March 16, 2018, 02:40:16 PM »
Dixon is at his alma. He's not leaving for K-State.

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« Reply #240 on: March 16, 2018, 02:42:09 PM »
Dixon is at his alma. He's not leaving for K-State.

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« Reply #241 on: March 16, 2018, 02:43:12 PM »
Dixon is at his alma. He's not leaving for K-State.

wut? nobody has ever said that.

i've heard/read multiple people compare oscar h8rz to the Pitt fanbase who pushed Dixon out. i'm just pointing out that's a BS comparison

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« Reply #242 on: March 16, 2018, 02:45:22 PM »
I had mentioned earlier that nobody has an answer for a replacement coach. I thought that's why you brought him up. He's obviously a complete badass. I've never heard that comparison before, but it's a dumb one.

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« Reply #243 on: March 16, 2018, 02:52:24 PM »
he’s doing here, exactly what got him fired from illinois.  they weren’t ok with it but somehow some of our fans are.  it’s bizarre and it’s such a small minded mentality that ravages our fanbase. 


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« Reply #244 on: March 16, 2018, 02:53:54 PM »
Illinois would kill for oscar right now. They've been pitiful since he left.

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« Reply #245 on: March 16, 2018, 02:54:42 PM »
keep telling yourself you that, wacks #agenda


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« Reply #246 on: March 16, 2018, 02:56:49 PM »
I don't ever want to fall backwards that far ever again. College was depressing AF watching cats basketball with Woolridge and Prince in football.

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« Reply #247 on: March 16, 2018, 02:58:00 PM »
Illinois hasn't gone to back to back tournaments since '06/'07.  They haven't been to the tournament since '12-13. They haven't had a winning conference record since 2009-10.

oscar may be under performing here, but he's certainly head and shoulders above what Illinois has done since they canned him.


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« Reply #248 on: March 16, 2018, 03:02:55 PM »
Rooting is natural.  Do whatever feels right.  It doesn't matter.

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« Reply #249 on: March 16, 2018, 03:03:08 PM »
he’s doing here, exactly what got him fired from illinois.  they weren’t ok with it but somehow some of our fans are.  it’s bizarre and it’s such a small minded mentality that ravages our fanbase. 


what got him fired at illinois? 
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