Oscar and the new AD

[kso_FAN]

He will be extended, paid about the same, and it will cost about the same to fire him.  All of it is just to ensure he has some appearance of stability in order to recruit.

Yeah, even if that stability is an illusion, athletics admin generally is going to follow similar procedures. It is what it is, but there is no reason to question Taylor because of this.

[kim carnes]

I wish people would quit implying that oscar's ability to recruit is better than his ability to coach

[ChiComCat]

He will be extended, paid about the same, and it will cost about the same to fire him.  All of it is just to ensure he has some appearance of stability in order to recruit.

Yeah, even if that stability is an illusion, athletics admin generally is going to follow similar procedures. It is what it is, but there is no reason to question Taylor because of this.

Could hold out hope that the extended years are lower base and higher in incentives really just easier to cut your losses later.   

Maybe but if they go too far in that direction, they might as well fire him

[MakeItRain]

Bunch of low-mediums losing their crap about a meaningless extension. Chicat is apparently the only non-dumbass analyzing this situation. This is not a long-term commitment to oscar, regardless of your stance on whether that would be good or bad. They are protecting their asset by making sure that the cupboard is not completely bare when Oscar inevitably parts ways with K-State. They will support Oscar publicly until the day that they fire Oscar publicly. This isn't hard.

Doing this now, in this manner for recruiting, doesn't hold water. If they were interested in the '17 recruits went why wait so long? This was clearly Myers decision, so if the recruits were so important why leave oscar publicly twisting with his job status for two weeks, then wait another three to leak, not even formally announce, an extension? As for the '18 recruits, we don't even have a scholarship opening up for '18 right now.

Stop acting like this is s.o.p. even if the contract is, the way this has been handled certainly isn't and should be scrutinized.

[kso_FAN]

No base salary raise and only incentive raises then

Yep.

Give him 2.05 mil (same as this year) and incentives for a top 3 Big 12 and/or round of 32.

[_33]

If a recruit is smart enough to look at their prospective coaches contract situation before signing you would think they would be smart enough to realize that an extension is just a game played because it is perceived to help recruiting but is actually meaningless in regards to job security.  Right?

[Rage Against the McKee]

If a recruit is smart enough to look at their prospective coaches contract situation before signing you would think they would be smart enough to realize that an extension is just a game played because it is perceived to help recruiting but is actually meaningless in regards to job security.  Right?

I think that is why Laird gave oscar a vote of confidence.

[Trim]

Right?

Right.

I assume that any recruit that agrees to play for oscar's 'cats has no other options at this level and/or is pretty stupid anyway.

[michigancat]

I mean, if he hasn't been fired yet, it should be clear to everyone that he will be here as long as he feels like it. Might as well give him the contract.

[Ptolemy]

Summary statement: Kansas State Men's Basketball is in a world of hurt for the foreseeable future. 

[kim carnes]

I mean, if he hasn't been fired yet, it should be clear to everyone that he will be here as long as he feels like it. Might as well give him the contract.

It still isn't clear to many people on this board that oscar doesn't have to do much to keep his job

[Tobias]

They don't call this place dumbasscity.com for nothing

[Mixed-Nutz]

No base salary raise and only incentive raises then

Yep.

Give him 2.05 mil (same as this year) and incentives for a top 3 Big 12 and/or round of 32.

Why not just give a small raise for appearance stake.

[rob mccolley]

Myers should be impeached.

[renocat]

So who in the hell is he, Oscar, recruiting that warranted giving him an extension to make it look like he is going to be here until he croaks.  No one shows us in the running for anybody.  Even knotheads are choosing other programs.  That Raynere Thornton guy chose Memphis over us.  That like choosing sex with your grandma rather than choosing KState Bessy.   Everyone is having hot flashes and big Oscargasms about last year's record, but forget the noncon puds.  I still get ill thinking about the Oklahoma game.  I guess I am dirt stupid.  In RenoCounty you don't get rewarded for doing crap work.

[TownieCat]

Bunch of low-mediums losing their crap about a meaningless extension. Chicat is apparently the only non-dumbass analyzing this situation. This is not a long-term commitment to oscar, regardless of your stance on whether that would be good or bad. They are protecting their asset by making sure that the cupboard is not completely bare when Oscar inevitably parts ways with K-State. They will support Oscar publicly until the day that they fire Oscar publicly. This isn't hard.

Doing this now, in this manner for recruiting, doesn't hold water. If they were interested in the '17 recruits went why wait so long? This was clearly Myers decision, so if the recruits were so important why leave oscar publicly twisting with his job status for two weeks, then wait another three to leak, not even formally announce, an extension? As for the '18 recruits, we don't even have a scholarship opening up for '18 right now.

Stop acting like this is s.o.p. even if the contract is, the way this has been handled certainly isn't and should be scrutinized.

I agree that it could have been handled better, but basketball recruiting begins the summer after a player's sophomore year. How is the staff supposed to recruit the '19 class without this extension?

[ksupamplemousse]

Bunch of low-mediums losing their crap about a meaningless extension. Chicat is apparently the only non-dumbass analyzing this situation. This is not a long-term commitment to oscar, regardless of your stance on whether that would be good or bad. They are protecting their asset by making sure that the cupboard is not completely bare when Oscar inevitably parts ways with K-State. They will support Oscar publicly until the day that they fire Oscar publicly. This isn't hard.

Doing this now, in this manner for recruiting, doesn't hold water. If they were interested in the '17 recruits went why wait so long? This was clearly Myers decision, so if the recruits were so important why leave oscar publicly twisting with his job status for two weeks, then wait another three to leak, not even formally announce, an extension? As for the '18 recruits, we don't even have a scholarship opening up for '18 right now.

Stop acting like this is s.o.p. even if the contract is, the way this has been handled certainly isn't and should be scrutinized.

Oh, I'm not saying K-State executed it correctly, I just think it's what we're attempting to do.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I mean, if he hasn't been fired yet, it should be clear to everyone that he will be here as long as he feels like it. Might as well give him the contract.

It still isn't clear to many people on this board that oscar doesn't have to do much to keep his job

There's a pretty strong contingent of r-tards on this board who think oscar and Woolridge have had equally successful tenures at k-state.

[kim carnes]

I mean, if he hasn't been fired yet, it should be clear to everyone that he will be here as long as he feels like it. Might as well give him the contract.

It still isn't clear to many people on this board that oscar doesn't have to do much to keep his job

There's a pretty strong contingent of r-tards on this board who think oscar and Woolridge have had equally successful tenures at k-state.

No there isn't (although so far they've won an equal amount of ncaa tourney games)

[grainer]

This is bullshit. I don't know wtf they are considering "extending" him, but there's no good reason imo. No recruit worth his dick will want to come play for this nightmare of a program that isn't getting BETTER, it's stalling out and getting WORSE. Mediocre to poor coaches (and programs) do not get top recruits.
The best approach to a gangrenous limb is to cut it off and get to the healing.
Good Lord.


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[420seriouscat69]

Who you hiring right this second, grainer?

['taterblast]

i hate oscar but can we not call a team that won a play-in game a "nightmare program"? seems a bit dramatic.

[Skipper44]

Who you hiring right this second, grainer?

eric musselman at Nevada might come for the $2M we are paying oscar - he just hired ex LSU HC Johnny Jones who is a super connected guy in DFW

[pissclams]

bonus points for the gangrenous limb take tho

[michigancat]

oscar has improved two seasons in a row.