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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2017, 12:14:51 AM »
did a pretty good job on the 3s, it looks like.
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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2017, 12:15:30 AM »
5 Kam TOs in our first 40 Poss.And He probably sat for 6-7 of those Poss.  So he was a pace for almost 15 TOs per 100 rate in this game.
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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2017, 12:19:32 AM »
No doubt he is bad, but you can't put this game on him

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2017, 12:32:36 AM »
Wes hasn't made a play in a close game all year, usually results in a turnover too. No problem with Kam being the guy, just he didn't do anything better.
Who else has? Kind of weird to single him out in this situation.

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2017, 12:41:44 AM »
No doubt he is bad, but you can't put this game on him

I can and I will.  I can live with his subpar 40% eFG and 2-4 FT shooting.  His 5 TOs were not because of WV pressure or great plays. They are from lazy passes or passes thrown into the 5th row.   He's done it all year. Even 24 hours ago,he had a WTF TO in the backcourt right after Baylor cut it to 62-55. 

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« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2017, 12:42:27 AM »
The last play was stupid, but the last ten minutes were way worse.  Typical oscar Weber team in that we stopped being aggressive on offense as the game got tight.  WV is guarding with four guys above the free throw line, and even when we get penetration we don't attack but instead retreat to the perimeter.  I figured we were screwed when we starting running shot clock and settling for desperation jumpers at end of shot clock.  Some of that is having young guards but a big part of that is on Weber.
Yeah. There were 4 on 3's CONSTANTLY against that zone and everyone holds the ball or dribbles away from the basket. Typical Bruceketball.

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« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2017, 12:45:04 AM »
No doubt he is bad, but you can't put this game on him

I can and I will.  I can live with his subpar 40% eFG and 2-4 FT shooting.  His 5 TOs were not because of WV pressure or great plays. They are from lazy passes or passes thrown into the 5th row.   He's done it all year. Even 24 hours ago,he had a WTF TO in the backcourt right after Baylor cut it to 62-55.

You go from the last few games to all year?  Maybe quit piggy backing off of posters thoughts all year long?

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2017, 01:09:16 AM »
I am going to rough ridin' lose it

https://twitter.com/kellisrobinett/status/840428563396468736

https://twitter.com/kencorbitt/status/840427217209458688

He should champaign. Why should he blame the lost on the players. We did not down enough open threes 5-21 for the game.

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2017, 01:10:28 AM »
Piggyback off of who??

Kam hasn't been good for a while but I've giving him praise for his 82% FT in B12 play.

First 21 games, 40% 3pt and 2.2 TOs
Last 12 , 29% 3pt and 3.8 TOs

A PG and one of our shooters.  When his numbers flip like that, I'm gonna point it out. That's what I do. When it's positive and not negative, I point that out.   

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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2017, 01:24:24 AM »
Piggyback off of who??

Kam hasn't been good for a while but I've giving him praise for his 82% FT in B12 play.

First 21 games, 40% 3pt and 2.2 TOs
Last 12 , 29% 3pt and 3.8 TOs

A PG and one of our shooters.  When his numbers flip like that, I'm gonna point it out. That's what I do. When it's positive and not negative, I point that out.   

He hasn't been good since he had that procedure on his toe.

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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2017, 07:57:52 AM »
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“We wanted to get Kam on the move,” K-State coach oscar Weber said.

“Their defense was a little different than we thought it was going to be,” Wade said.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article137913363.html

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2017, 09:12:53 AM »
https://twitter.com/SprintCenter/status/840419486469623808

Poor oscar.

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2017, 09:39:38 AM »
Hey, at least now you all can root for a good coach tonight in the Chamionship...


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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2017, 09:40:44 AM »
Good morning Cdubs, now get lost

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2017, 09:41:51 AM »
Soak it in CW.  Soak it all in.

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2017, 09:50:01 AM »
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“We wanted to get Kam on the move,” K-State coach oscar Weber said.

“Their defense was a little different than we thought it was going to be,” Wade said.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article137913363.html

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2017, 09:54:25 AM »
seriously, the 10-20 prior possessions against the zone should be much more of a concern than the last play. Expecting to get a good look against a good defensive team with 10 seconds and no great one-on-one scorers is always going to be a long shot.

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« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2017, 09:57:18 AM »
seriously, the 10-20 prior possessions against the zone should be much more of a concern than the last play. Expecting to get a good look against a good defensive team with 10 seconds and no great one-on-one scorers is always going to be a long shot.

Yes, we seemingly had no idea what to do playing a team for the 3rd time. Its not like Huggins put this defense in for this game, we had to know it and have done prep for it this year.

I think part of it was oscar went into clock mode and as a result most of our offense was run the shot clock down to under 10 and force a jump shot. oscar often goes into that mode in the last 10 minutes with a lead.

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2017, 09:58:15 AM »
Good morning Cdubs, now get lost

I'm like oscar Weber...

You can't get rid of me.  :gocho:

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« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2017, 09:59:40 AM »
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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2017, 10:03:44 AM »


We've talked a lot about Dean's production and success, but when both of the sophomore guards play poorly its a problem too. I suppose that is expected with a 7-8 man rotation. Despite posse's strange personal crusade against Stokes, Barry doing nothing after playing a fabulous game vs Baylor was just as big (if not more) of a problem last night offensively. When those guys have ORtings of way under .90 together its a problem. Granted, WVU is one of the best defensive teams in the country and finished as the best defensive team in the Big 12.


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« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2017, 10:04:49 AM »
seriously, the 10-20 prior possessions against the zone should be much more of a concern than the last play. Expecting to get a good look against a good defensive team with 10 seconds and no great one-on-one scorers is always going to be a long shot.

Yes, we seemingly had no idea what to do playing a team for the 3rd time. Its not like Huggins put this defense in for this game, we had to know it and have done prep for it this year.

I think part of it was oscar went into clock mode and as a result most of our offense was run the shot clock down to under 10 and force a jump shot. oscar often goes into that mode in the last 10 minutes with a lead.

Yeah. KSU did a good job "playing basketball" in the first half - using tempo to break the press and get layups. But they could never really do it against the 1-3-1 - not sure how much of that was trying to run clock and how much was failure to make adjustments.

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« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2017, 10:07:52 AM »
seriously, the 10-20 prior possessions against the zone should be much more of a concern than the last play. Expecting to get a good look against a good defensive team with 10 seconds and no great one-on-one scorers is always going to be a long shot.

Yes, we seemingly had no idea what to do playing a team for the 3rd time. Its not like Huggins put this defense in for this game, we had to know it and have done prep for it this year.

I think part of it was oscar went into clock mode and as a result most of our offense was run the shot clock down to under 10 and force a jump shot. oscar often goes into that mode in the last 10 minutes with a lead.

Yeah. KSU did a good job "playing basketball" in the first half - using tempo to break the press and get layups. But they could never really do it against the 1-3-1 - not sure how much of that was trying to run clock and how much was failure to make adjustments.

Also, WVU went from .52 points per possession to 1.23 and 25% shooting to 45%. Its a lot easier to get out in transition when the other team isn't making shots or scoring much.

Our 2nd half defense really wasn't good, especially getting killed on the offensive boards.

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Re: What a Wes-te; WVU ADV
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2017, 10:12:58 AM »
seriously, the 10-20 prior possessions against the zone should be much more of a concern than the last play. Expecting to get a good look against a good defensive team with 10 seconds and no great one-on-one scorers is always going to be a long shot.

I agree with this, and I don't know how oscar expects to win a tournament game if he feels unprepared for a team we've prepared for three times.