What a Wes-te; WVU ADV

[kso_FAN]

[Powercat Posse]

eff Kam Stokes.

Nothing more to add.

[kso_FAN]

Cats led 39-27 with 13 and half minutes left. Man.

[ksupamplemousse]

#bruceketball

[pvegs]

eff Kam Stokes.

Nothing more to add.

say what you want about kam, but we hit a couple more of those wide opens 3s in the first half and aren't faced with having to make the sort of do or die play we've shown we can't make all season. huggins went to the 1-3-1 and we had no answer. winning teams make plays and mediocre teams do what we do. 

[Ptolemy]

That you cannot with 10 seconds left draw up a simple play to get the ball inside to DJamer for a chance at a high percentage bucket and/or a foul is fireable in and of itself.

[Powercat Posse]

That you cannot with 10 seconds left draw up a simple play to get the ball inside to DJamer for a chance at a high percentage bucket and/or a foul is fireable in and of itself.

DJamer and Dean were options on play. Kam picked up dribble for no reason. Biggest mistake was not having ball on Wes hands

[ednksu]

That you cannot with 10 seconds left draw up a simple play to get the ball inside to DJamer for a chance at a high percentage bucket and/or a foul is fireable in and of itself.

DJamer and Dean were options on play. Kam picked up dribble for no reason. Biggest mistake was not having ball on Wes hands

Dean did not look like he was a real option.  He was setting a high screen waiting for Kam to reappear from the black hole he wondered into.  The fact that oscar didn't get the ball into Wes's hands with an option to go to DJamer if it was open was classic oscar.  Just terrible setup and execution.  Looked like they had maybe run that play once or twice at the end of practice.

[kso_FAN]

It was a man play (Wade pick and pop) vs a zone defense. Huggs just outsmarted oscar. This isn't hard.

[Skipper44]

True but Wade just rough ridin' stood there

[Powercat Posse]

Kam didn't recognize it was a zone. Obviously Dean isn't gonna be very open.

I'm guessing Wes realizes it was zone, scraps play, drives and tries to do something.

Picking up your dribble and panicking with 5 sec is worst case

[The Big Train]

Kam didn't recognize it was a zone. Obviously Dean isn't gonna be very open.

I'm guessing Wes realizes it was zone, scraps play, drives and tries to do something.

Picking up your dribble and panicking with 5 sec is worst case

How can not recognize what you've played against the last 10 min?  oscar doesn't teach enough during practice and tries to 'coach' too much during the game.

[PIPE]

Cam sucked it up. What else is new

[MakeItRain]

Posse' s going to die on this dumb hill. Cam wasn't even supposed to get the ball, it isn't his job to create for everyone else, why would he be expected to do it then?

That inbounds pass should have been a skip pass to Barry on the other side of the court but I think Wes expected to get the ball back.

[ednksu]

lol a pick and pop with two underclassmen. 

I mean maybe it's the same as what Wade had with his final shot @KU, but this doesn't seem like he is ready for a pick, let alone a pop.  I'm sure it doesn't help when Stokes ignores the play.

[KSUfan8]

Wes hasn't made a play in a close game all year, usually results in a turnover too. No problem with Kam being the guy, just he didn't do anything better.

[The Big Train]

Wes hasn't made a play in a close game all year, usually results in a turnover too. No problem with Kam being the guy, just he didn't do anything better.

Kam is the most arrogant with the ball on our whole team. oscar should know this but it's blatantly obvious he has no clue. 

[MakeItRain]

lol a pick and pop with two underclassmen. 

I mean maybe it's the same as what Wade had with his final shot @KU, but this doesn't seem like he is ready for a pick, let alone a pop.  I'm sure it doesn't help when Stokes ignores the play.

Nice screen shot. I don't know what Kam was thinking, and I'm not sure he did either but I'm going to try.

So if he beats the head of that zone on that dribble he's taking it forces the left wing on the zone to either pick him up or let him go to Adrian. If the wing picks up the dribble it frees the offensive wing for a shot, Barry in this case.

If this was the play oscar drew up I'm actually okay with it because like I said I think the ball was supposed to go back to Wes. Like him or don't but Wes is much more equipped to break down a zone with a dribble. This would have had Dean screening the head of the zone and Kam and Barry on the wings, the exact set up you'd want.

[The Big Train]

I am going to rough ridin' lose it

https://twitter.com/kellisrobinett/status/840428563396468736

https://twitter.com/kencorbitt/status/840427217209458688

[Steffy08]

The last play was stupid, but the last ten minutes were way worse.  Typical oscar Weber team in that we stopped being aggressive on offense as the game got tight.  WV is guarding with four guys above the free throw line, and even when we get penetration we don't attack but instead retreat to the perimeter.  I figured we were screwed when we starting running shot clock and settling for desperation jumpers at end of shot clock.  Some of that is having young guards but a big part of that is on Weber.

[ednksu]

I'd also add that all the motion and freeing action seems to go to the left side (bench side).  DJamer slides down.  Wade is still there at the top of the key in case the zone (or man?) sucks down to DJamer.  Wes is still there at the wing for a 3 (as MiR describes).  It just seems like Kam went ham and went right and everyone was like WTF are you doing.  Seemed like Barry was a there on the weak side to anchor just in case everyone went to Wes/DJamer/Kam.

[ednksu]

The last play was stupid, but the last ten minutes were way worse.  Typical oscar Weber team in that we stopped being aggressive on offense as the game got tight.  WV is guarding with four guys above the free throw line, and even when we get penetration we don't attack but instead retreat to the perimeter.  I figured we were screwed when we starting running shot clock and settling for desperation jumpers at end of shot clock.  Some of that is having young guards but a big part of that is on Weber.

I agree with this in a larger perspective of the second half.  You look at the fouls and WV was much more aggressive in 2nd.  We were in the bonus early in the first and WV returned the favor in the 2nd.

[Powercat Posse]

In the screen shot, they are clearly in zone. Pass the ball to Barry. After you dribble to the wing, drive to the hole and try to do something. Just don't pick the ball up and expect Dean to be open for a 3. 

I totally agree. Wes has done nothing late in games but he should have had ball. Huggy team is over aggressive and fouls a ton. Wes driving has way better shot of drawing a foul

[Powercat Posse]

We didn't lose the game because of the last play.

WV scored 13 pts off of our 6 TOs in 2nd half. Kam had 3 of them. He also was inbounded the ball and got a 5 count. Not his TO, but a timeout does save a TO

[pvegs]

I am going to rough ridin' lose it

https://twitter.com/kellisrobinett/status/840428563396468736

https://twitter.com/kencorbitt/status/840427217209458688

not having enough time to prepare for zone d is a classic case of the #schedulemakers. not quite as bad as when the maui trip cost us all of december 2014, but still pretty unfair imho.