Author Topic: Trump owns Russia (Read 912595 times)

steve dave · « **Reply #7450 on:** August 23, 2018, 10:41:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/thecontemptor/status/1032811874717519872?s=21

chum1 · « **Reply #7451 on:** August 24, 2018, 08:41:20 AM »

Maybe Giuliani's calculation is that whatever Manafort has to say is worse than beefing up obstruction charges. Or maybe he's just being a dumbass again.

https://twitter.com/EricColumbus/status/1032984548244705280

sys · « **Reply #7452 on:** August 24, 2018, 09:11:13 AM »

https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1032696400960741377

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7453 on:** August 24, 2018, 10:27:09 AM »

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-military-joining-russians-nuclear-war-games/

sys · « **Reply #7454 on:** August 24, 2018, 10:28:55 AM »

Quote from: sys on August 22, 2018, 05:26:23 PM

i don't think it's probable. but i don't think it's laughably improbable either.

https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1033005201463107584

i want to redo my math too. i'm not sure i go all the way to probable yet. but it's gotta be getting pretty damn close.

Trim · « **Reply #7455 on:** August 24, 2018, 10:32:06 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2018, 10:27:09 AM

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-military-joining-russians-nuclear-war-games/

This was the first thing I saw. Good thing we didn't schedule FattyFest that same weekend.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7456 on:** August 24, 2018, 10:32:19 AM »

Quote from: sys on August 24, 2018, 09:11:13 AM

https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1032696400960741377

So today is a day when LibBots don't trust DHS to their job. Let us know when LibBots trust DHS implicitly, again. It seems to vacillate back and forth favoring anything that might make Trump look bad.

This doesn't include the hate/love factor for DHS. Pub wants to give DHS more power or at least maintain power, Libs hate it. Lib wants to give DHS more power, Libs love it, interchange as needed if it involves Trump.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #7457 on:** August 24, 2018, 12:15:29 PM »

Could it be that policy is more nuanced than loving/hating a whole department and everything they do?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7458 on:** August 24, 2018, 05:45:23 PM »

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/lanny-davis-michael-cohen-prague/

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7459 on:** August 26, 2018, 11:21:31 PM »

Lanny "the slug" Davis was back out on the TV trail rolling back all the things he said a few days ago about Cohen saying that Trump had prior knowledge of meetings with those Russian "spies".

star seed 7 · « **Reply #7460 on:** August 26, 2018, 11:27:24 PM »

Lanny Davis from the start has said they didn't leak that Cohen knew that trump knew about the meeting. The president's lawyers put it out there

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7461 on:** August 27, 2018, 08:23:12 AM »

I tip my cap to LibBot7, he's hanging on every word of this Trump-Russia thing.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #7462 on:** August 27, 2018, 08:28:52 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2018, 10:32:19 AM

Quote from: sys on August 24, 2018, 09:11:13 AM
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1032696400960741377

So today is a day when LibBots don't trust DHS to their job. Let us know when LibBots trust DHS implicitly, again. It seems to vacillate back and forth favoring anything that might make Trump look bad.

This doesn't include the hate/love factor for DHS. Pub wants to give DHS more power or at least maintain power, Libs hate it. Lib wants to give DHS more power, Libs love it, interchange as needed if it involves Trump.

Did anyone read the article? The bill is stupid.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7463 on:** August 27, 2018, 08:35:19 AM »

If this is all cleared up, why are there are kinds of stories about this one? I'll defer to LibBot7, who is all up in this stuff by the minute, for the answer.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lawyer-backs-off-claims-about-information-Cohen-13184027.php

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7464 on:** August 27, 2018, 08:36:17 AM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 27, 2018, 08:28:52 AM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on August 24, 2018, 10:32:19 AM
Quote from: sys on August 24, 2018, 09:11:13 AM
https://twitter.com/ezraklein/status/1032696400960741377

So today is a day when LibBots don't trust DHS to their job. Let us know when LibBots trust DHS implicitly, again. It seems to vacillate back and forth favoring anything that might make Trump look bad.

This doesn't include the hate/love factor for DHS. Pub wants to give DHS more power or at least maintain power, Libs hate it. Lib wants to give DHS more power, Libs love it, interchange as needed if it involves Trump.

Did anyone read the article? The bill is stupid.

Hasn't DHS given states, like gajillions of dollars over the last few years to shore up election security?

chum1 · « **Reply #7465 on:** August 27, 2018, 04:34:16 PM »

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1034186365792079872

treysolid · « **Reply #7466 on:** August 27, 2018, 08:05:11 PM »

these idiots are killing each other to out-idiot all the other idiots. jesus.

chum1 · « **Reply #7467 on:** August 28, 2018, 08:39:54 AM »

Still trying!

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1034430860320231425

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7468 on:** August 28, 2018, 08:56:56 AM »

Yep, if there's one thing that's absolutely not worth looking into is a former MI6 guy who the FBI has lied about when he was and wasn't on their payroll etc. etc.

Chum . . . add yourself to the list of sell outs to The Man.

chum1 · « **Reply #7469 on:** August 28, 2018, 09:59:15 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on August 28, 2018, 08:56:56 AM

Yep, if there's one thing that's absolutely not worth looking into is a former MI6 guy who the FBI has lied about when he was and wasn't on their payroll etc. etc.

lol that's not what Nunes is doing

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7470 on:** August 28, 2018, 10:02:19 AM »

Quote from: chum1 on August 28, 2018, 09:59:15 AM

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on August 28, 2018, 08:56:56 AM
Yep, if there's one thing that's absolutely not worth looking into is a former MI6 guy who the FBI has lied about when he was and wasn't on their payroll etc. etc.

lol that's not what Nunes is doing

Yeah, okay.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7471 on:** August 28, 2018, 10:02:42 AM »

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/09/03/glenn-greenwald-the-bane-of-their-resistance

Greenwald argued that “those who question, criticize or are perceived to impede Hillary Clinton’s smooth, entitled path to the White House are vilified as stooges, sympathizers and/or agents of Russia: Trump, WikiLeaks, Sanders, The Intercept, Jill Stein.” He wrote that both Trump and Stein, the Green Party’s Presidential candidate, were being “vilified for advocating ways to reduce U.S./Russian tensions.” (Even though this article included Trump on the list of those being “smeared,” Greenwald told me that he had only ever invoked McCarthyism in reference to “Democrats who accused me and others like me of being Kremlin agents.”) After the election, he scorned those “screaming ‘Putin,’ over and over.” Later, on an Intercept podcast, he said that Democrats had embraced, without evidence, various “conspiracy theories” about COLUSION; American liberals were caught up in an “insane, insidious, xenophobic, jingoistic kind of craziness.”

Greenwald has questioned their reliability, and has disputed their evidence, to a degree that has frustrated even some colleagues at the Intercept. On Twitter, Greenwald recently described the self-identified “resistance” to Trump as “the first #Resistance in history that venerates security state agencies.”

“Robert Mueller was the rough ridin' F.B.I. chief who rounded up Muslims for George Bush after 9/11, and now, if you go to hacker conferences, there are people who wear his image, like he’s Che Guevara, on their shirt.” Maddow and other liberals may show respect to the former C.I.A. director John Brennan when he accuses Trump of colluding with Russia, but Greenwald’s view is that Brennan, who sanctioned extraordinary rendition, should be shunned.

So if you convince them that what has endangered them is Putin—you hear Democrats comparing this to 9/11 or Pearl Harbor—that’s really dangerous rhetoric. I don’t think it’s particularly grave at all, even if it’s true. I think it’s a very pedestrian event.” The risk, then—one also identified by President Trump—was that unfounded American hysteria could set off a nuclear war.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #7472 on:** August 28, 2018, 10:06:05 AM »

Even if treason did happen, what's the big deal??

Lol, great bolding dax

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #7473 on:** August 28, 2018, 10:14:34 AM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 28, 2018, 10:06:05 AM

Even if treason did happen, what's the big deal??

Lol, great bolding dax

Yep, that's what it says.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #7474 on:** August 28, 2018, 10:16:25 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on August 28, 2018, 10:02:42 AM

. I don’t think it’s particularly grave at all, even if it’s true. I think it’s a very pedestrian event.”

Literal quote, dumdumdax