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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2017, 11:24:26 PM »
They made very difficult shots, stats slave
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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2017, 11:26:52 PM »
No timeout + the technical is unforgivable

I'm not sure if he was talking about the very end or the earlier possession that tech got a fast break out of, but in the postgame he said it was his fault for not calling timeout and them immediately faulted whichever player he was talking about for not having the poise to call timeout himself when there was nothing there.  Pretty awesome.

If you actually watched the game you would know he was talking about the next to last possession when Wes had a terrible turnover that led to a fast break. In retrospect yeah, I guess he should have called timeout but I'm willing to bet no one watching that game said at the time, before the turnover that we should have called timeout.

And yes he blamed wes for the turnover, because he threw the rough ridin' ball away. I don't know crap about anything but what I do know is that you or frankly anyone else wouldn't have brought their assess on here when the game was over and said. "oscar didn't call that timeout and Wes hit that amazing layup, great move by oscar for not calling the timeout and better move by oscar for willing wes to making that layup."

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2017, 11:28:58 PM »
Oscar is only good with  OPP

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2017, 11:29:45 PM »
No timeout + the technical is unforgivable

I'm not sure if he was talking about the very end or the earlier possession that tech got a fast break out of, but in the postgame he said it was his fault for not calling timeout and them immediately faulted whichever player he was talking about for not having the poise to call timeout himself when there was nothing there.  Pretty awesome.

If you actually watched the game you would know he was talking about the next to last possession when Wes had a terrible turnover that led to a fast break. In retrospect yeah, I guess he should have called timeout but I'm willing to bet no one watching that game said at the time, before the turnover that we should have called timeout.

And yes he blamed wes for the turnover, because he threw the rough ridin' ball away. I don't know crap about anything but what I do know is that you or frankly anyone else wouldn't have brought their assess on here when the game was over and said. "oscar didn't call that timeout and Wes hit that amazing layup, great move by oscar for not calling the timeout and better move by oscar for willing wes to making that layup."

We used our timeout when tech was shooting free throws. No reason to call another. Wes blew the set. He had a shot and tried to dish.
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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2017, 11:33:28 PM »
No timeout + the technical is unforgivable

I'm not sure if he was talking about the very end or the earlier possession that tech got a fast break out of, but in the postgame he said it was his fault for not calling timeout and them immediately faulted whichever player he was talking about for not having the poise to call timeout himself when there was nothing there.  Pretty awesome.

If you actually watched the game you would know he was talking about the next to last possession when Wes had a terrible turnover that led to a fast break. In retrospect yeah, I guess he should have called timeout but I'm willing to bet no one watching that game said at the time, before the turnover that we should have called timeout.

And yes he blamed wes for the turnover, because he threw the rough ridin' ball away. I don't know crap about anything but what I do know is that you or frankly anyone else wouldn't have brought their assess on here when the game was over and said. "oscar didn't call that timeout and Wes hit that amazing layup, great move by oscar for not calling the timeout and better move by oscar for willing wes to making that layup."

I watched the game for the most part, but I wasn't paying attention to the question that oscar gave that  answer to, which is why I didn't know with certainty which play he was talking about.  It obviously didn't seem to fit the last play as much which is why I distinguished his comment from the non-timeout 8mp posted about.

Everyone deserves blame/credit tonight.  Contributions from coaches and players alike.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #81 on: January 10, 2017, 11:34:06 PM »
If anyone says anything about the T you are being a disingenuous dick bag. If Frank got that T the collective orgasm on here couldn't be contained. That bald bitch who called the T needs to have his face caved in, I'm pretty sure that was the same ref who called Wade for that awful fifth AFTER one of their trash players missed the shot. That guy should be checked to see if he's betting on games.

BTW, the bald ref did not make the call on Wade. He was an the right foul-line extended with the best view of the play. The official on the baseline having to look through 2 or 3 players and behind Wade made the call.

The only thing I will say about the T is that it occured with 5 seconds on the clock down by 1. Inexcusable!! If you are getting hosed by the officials and you need to go off on them, you do it late in the 1st or early mid 2nd while you are up. Not with 5 seconds with a chance to be down by only 1 to 3 where a 3 could win or tie. I guarantee you if Bill Self was getting jobbed by the officials as bad as oscar allows his teams to be, he would go off on the officials and there would be no "what did he do to get a T" questions.  If Frank Martin did what Weber did tonight to take the chance away from the team to still win or tie i woulbd have been just as outraged at him as I am at Weber.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #82 on: January 10, 2017, 11:36:09 PM »
I want to hear more from those that say it's not webers fault.

He doesn't miss the FTs , he doesn't make the dumb passes.......

Nope, but he does recruit the ones who do

Maybe that stellar road record is all cause of bad officiating!

This probably will go over your head but the two issues in your message aren't mutually exclusive. You can and should fault him for what players we have in the program, even though impartial observers like the talent of this team; but you are allowed to have nuance and blame Kamau for missing layups, blame wes for throwing the ball away, and blame the refs for fixing the game.

All of this can be true, do you understand that?

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2017, 11:37:26 PM »
Do not care what anyone says, 4-25 on the road is inexcusable.  At Baylor in 13 is the only time I thought we played it right. 

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Who the hell is excusing it? Just show me one single, solitary post.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #84 on: January 10, 2017, 11:39:13 PM »
Do not care what anyone says, 4-25 on the road is inexcusable.  At Baylor in 13 is the only time I thought we played it right. 

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Who the hell is excusing it? Just show me one single, solitary post.
Your post above excused a lot of things.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #85 on: January 10, 2017, 11:39:30 PM »
I was KITN prepared.

I said OH NO out loud when Kamau missed his free throw and my wife got up and went to bed. Doesn't mean you can't be livid at how that went down.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #86 on: January 10, 2017, 11:40:45 PM »
I hate Tech so much, always have, always will.
Their players are ugly
Their game is ugly
Their campus is ugly
Their dirty ass city is ugly
Their fans are ugly
Their uniforms are ugly
Their floor is ugly
Their Mr. Potato Head looking ass coach is ugly

Those two bigs, the fat kid with the bad haircut and that bald prick, are flopping ass pussays. They are a disgrace to basketball and I wish nothing but the worst for them. It's a damn shame that they are as big as those dudes are and they're constantly either on the floor or throwing their heads back when someone gets near them. It's the Marcus Smarting of basketball and it's a plague.

100% agree!!

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #87 on: January 10, 2017, 11:42:26 PM »
How many extra possessions did tech get in the last 2 minutes on 2 second delayed calls like the one against Wade and Brown? There was the ball the tech guard smacked out of bounds they went to the monitor on and still mumped up. That's just not something a team on the road can overcome in a close game. We played great D and just enough offense to win, and win comfortably, and we got buttfucked big12ref style.

It's no wonder ku ties to win the conference every year, it's a rough ridin' sham

Our 2nd half defense was awful.

Undeniable. I haven't looked at your stats yet so I don't know if the numbers will back this up but the rebounding looked to be horrific. They were crashing with four every single time on both ends, we didn't at all, ever.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #88 on: January 10, 2017, 11:46:13 PM »
Everyone deserves blame/credit tonight.  Contributions from coaches and players alike.

Color me surprised, honestly. Is this what actually showing a sliver of give a crap looks like? I'll take it. You're off of my list, now back to RickRampus.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #89 on: January 10, 2017, 11:47:26 PM »
We did a terrible job guarding techs 17 second half ft attempts.
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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #90 on: January 10, 2017, 11:47:31 PM »
All of your post are excuses. I'm done with you. 

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #91 on: January 10, 2017, 11:48:10 PM »
I hate Tech so much, always have, always will.
Their players are ugly
Their game is ugly
Their campus is ugly
Their dirty ass city is ugly
Their fans are ugly
Their uniforms are ugly
Their floor is ugly
Their Mr. Potato Head looking ass coach is ugly

Those two bigs, the fat kid with the bad haircut and that bald prick, are flopping ass pussays. They are a disgrace to basketball and I wish nothing but the worst for them. It's a damn shame that they are as big as those dudes are and they're constantly either on the floor or throwing their heads back when someone gets near them. It's the Marcus Smarting of basketball and it's a plague.

100% agree!!

Don't forget about graham cookie devonte throwing his head back on Dogbite's drive to draw the offensive foul

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #92 on: January 10, 2017, 11:50:41 PM »
Everyone deserves blame/credit tonight.  Contributions from coaches and players alike.

Is this what actually showing a sliver of give a crap looks like?

Re: kp30nt, hence the "/credit."

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #93 on: January 10, 2017, 11:53:06 PM »
If anyone says anything about the T you are being a disingenuous dick bag. If Frank got that T the collective orgasm on here couldn't be contained. That bald bitch who called the T needs to have his face caved in, I'm pretty sure that was the same ref who called Wade for that awful fifth AFTER one of their trash players missed the shot. That guy should be checked to see if he's betting on games.

BTW, the bald ref did not make the call on Wade. He was an the right foul-line extended with the best view of the play. The official on the baseline having to look through 2 or 3 players and behind Wade made the call.

The only thing I will say about the T is that it occured with 5 seconds on the clock down by 1. Inexcusable!! If you are getting hosed by the officials and you need to go off on them, you do it late in the 1st or early mid 2nd while you are up. Not with 5 seconds with a chance to be down by only 1 to 3 where a 3 could win or tie. I guarantee you if Bill Self was getting jobbed by the officials as bad as oscar allows his teams to be, he would go off on the officials and there would be no "what did he do to get a T" questions.  If Frank Martin did what Weber did tonight to take the chance away from the team to still win or tie i woulbd have been just as outraged at him as I am at Weber.

Someone ITT said that the officials don't respect oscar and it certainly appears to be a level of truth to that. You absolutely cannot call a technical foul there, and I guarantee you most college basketball officials agree with me. I have had high school coaches react similarly to that in a late, close game and you need to allow a quick outburst, coaches aren't robots. If he did something like march to midcourt to throw a fit than fine, but that was a very quick outburst and didn't merit a technical. That T by no means cost us the game but it is emblematic of how terrible college basketball officials are.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #94 on: January 10, 2017, 11:53:48 PM »
MIR, I appreciate your work in this thread. I'm not done with this team, but my initial reaction was meltdown and be pissed at everything.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #95 on: January 10, 2017, 11:57:03 PM »
the scripts are being followed flawlessly

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #96 on: January 10, 2017, 11:59:04 PM »
Do not care what anyone says, 4-25 on the road is inexcusable.  At Baylor in 13 is the only time I thought we played it right. 

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Who the hell is excusing it? Just show me one single, solitary post.
Your post above excused a lot of things.

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I haven't said a single thing about anything else but tonight, not one thing. I only care about tonight, right now. I don't care what happened at West Virginia in 2015, I care about right now. You're acting like 5-24 is just fine but 4-25 is a tipping point. They are both horrendous records and neither of them have a single damn to do with us once again not executing and then getting cheated to top it off.

Be done with me, I give as many fucks as I do differentiating between 4-25 and 5-24.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #97 on: January 11, 2017, 12:00:16 AM »
Do not care what anyone says, 4-25 on the road is inexcusable.  At Baylor in 13 is the only time I thought we played it right. 

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Who the hell is excusing it? Just show me one single, solitary post.
Your post above excused a lot of things.

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I haven't said a single thing about anything else but tonight, not one thing. I only care about tonight, right now. I don't care what happened at West Virginia in 2015, I care about right now. You're acting like 5-24 is just fine but 4-25 is a tipping point. They are both horrendous records and neither of them have a single damn to do with us once again not executing and then getting cheated to top it off.

Be done with me, I give as many fucks as I do differentiating between 4-25 and 5-24.
When did I say that was a tipping point? Weird post

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #98 on: January 11, 2017, 12:01:11 AM »
Everyone deserves blame/credit tonight.  Contributions from coaches and players alike.

Is this what actually showing a sliver of give a crap looks like?

Re: kp30nt, hence the "/credit."

Is that right? I wouldn't know I'm done opening that thread may as well be a renocat thread.

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Re: 3:38 to go up 1 with the ball
« Reply #99 on: January 11, 2017, 12:03:56 AM »
Do not care what anyone says, 4-25 on the road is inexcusable.  At Baylor in 13 is the only time I thought we played it right. 

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Who the hell is excusing it? Just show me one single, solitary post.
Your post above excused a lot of things.

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I haven't said a single thing about anything else but tonight, not one thing. I only care about tonight, right now. I don't care what happened at West Virginia in 2015, I care about right now. You're acting like 5-24 is just fine but 4-25 is a tipping point. They are both horrendous records and neither of them have a single damn to do with us once again not executing and then getting cheated to top it off.

Be done with me, I give as many fucks as I do differentiating between 4-25 and 5-24.
When did I say that was a tipping point? Weird post

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You didn't. I'm trying to figure out why you keep addressing it tonight as if we are just realizing we've been shitty on the road for four years. We're talking about tonight, you're talking about February of 2014.