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And another #5 from Parrish.And I have no idea how to react to expectations this high. NO IDEA.
I want Gottlieb and Bilas to put out their preseason rankings. Evidently those are the only two opinions that matter according to the Phog and it'd be interesting to see how they react if the place K-State in their top 5 or so.
Guess Selby is Ben's flavor of the month now. Remember how much he hyped up Tyshawn last summer? And Robinson, X, and Elijah, etc,... Ben is like the Madden curse for uk athletes.
Quote from: EllToPay on May 11, 2010, 05:33:05 PMQuote from: sys on May 11, 2010, 04:22:43 PMQuote from: EllToPay on May 11, 2010, 03:31:18 PMQuote from: BMWJhawk on May 11, 2010, 01:11:53 PMJosh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo. It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. did you see this one?Quote from: BMWJhawk on May 11, 2010, 11:54:17 AMGood job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly. increds. love not being little bro anymore.We never were. WTF?
Quote from: sys on May 11, 2010, 04:22:43 PMQuote from: EllToPay on May 11, 2010, 03:31:18 PMQuote from: BMWJhawk on May 11, 2010, 01:11:53 PMJosh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo. It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. did you see this one?Quote from: BMWJhawk on May 11, 2010, 11:54:17 AMGood job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly. increds. love not being little bro anymore.
Quote from: EllToPay on May 11, 2010, 03:31:18 PMQuote from: BMWJhawk on May 11, 2010, 01:11:53 PMJosh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo. It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed. did you see this one?Quote from: BMWJhawk on May 11, 2010, 11:54:17 AMGood job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
Quote from: BMWJhawk on May 11, 2010, 01:11:53 PMJosh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo. It's like roles between KU and KSU fans are completely reversed.
Josh Selby is going to make Jake Pullen look like a hobo.
Good job, guys... now let's see if you're ranked top five next year after losing Pullen, Sutton, and Kelly.
5. KANSAS STATE BUZZ: Starters Denis Clemente and Luis Colon are gone, but the Wildcats should continue to be a Big 12 contender thanks to All-America candidate Jacob Pullen. Losing Clemente is big, but three other Wildcats averaged in double figures.
http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083741Quote5. KANSAS STATE BUZZ: Starters Denis Clemente and Luis Colon are gone, but the Wildcats should continue to be a Big 12 contender thanks to All-America candidate Jacob Pullen. Losing Clemente is big, but three other Wildcats averaged in double figures. hey national media, stop loving the Cats so much. It's embarassing. Others:7 KU10 Missouri15 Baylor"considered": Texas <<<----
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.
Quote from: BMWJhawk on May 12, 2010, 05:27:18 PMI guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.
I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing 2 All-Americans and a first-rounder will make KU a top 5 team. See, we're all a little confused.
Rank 'Em: Forde's Top 10 o (#1 Votes)Points 1 Duke (1,268) 20,899 o 2 Purdue (595) 19,799 o 3 Michigan St. (238) 18,702 o 4 Kansas St. (69) 12,856 o 5 Ohio St. (32) 11,798 o 6 Kansas (113) 10,955 o 7 Pittsburgh (19) 10,264 o 8 Villanova (42) 9,799 o 9 Washington (47) 7,571 o 10 Florida (12) 6,771
Quote from: kitten_mittons on May 12, 2010, 06:16:33 PMQuote from: BMWJhawk on May 12, 2010, 05:27:18 PMI guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.Oh, okay... so K-State's players are the only ones who improve during the off-season, and K-State is the only team in the Big 12 with guys capable of stepping up next year and taking on a bigger role. Got it.
Quote from: BMWJhawk on May 12, 2010, 07:50:47 PMQuote from: kitten_mittons on May 12, 2010, 06:16:33 PMQuote from: BMWJhawk on May 12, 2010, 05:27:18 PMI guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.Oh, okay... so K-State's players are the only ones who improve during the off-season, and K-State is the only team in the Big 12 with guys capable of stepping up next year and taking on a bigger role. Got it.You'd think with how much you're on here you'd know something.Team A makes it to the Elite 8, and the next year they get worse at 1 position and better than or equal to at the other 4.Team B makes it to the round of 32, and the next year gets worse at 3 positions and better than or equal to at the other 2.Which team is more likely to be better? (and yes, that is rhetorical)
Quote from: kitten_mittons on May 12, 2010, 09:19:59 PMQuote from: BMWJhawk on May 12, 2010, 07:50:47 PMQuote from: kitten_mittons on May 12, 2010, 06:16:33 PMQuote from: BMWJhawk on May 12, 2010, 05:27:18 PMI guess I'm having a hard time understanding how replacing Denis Clemente with a player like Martavious Irving is going to make K-State a better team. But hey, maybe that Canadian juco will be really good and you guys will manage to not get swept by KU again. I have my doubts, though.Probably because it's doubtful that Irving starts at the point, and that we get better or stay the same all all other positions. Including our bench.Oh, okay... so K-State's players are the only ones who improve during the off-season, and K-State is the only team in the Big 12 with guys capable of stepping up next year and taking on a bigger role. Got it.You'd think with how much you're on here you'd know something.Team A makes it to the Elite 8, and the next year they get worse at 1 position and better than or equal to at the other 4.Team B makes it to the round of 32, and the next year gets worse at 3 positions and better than or equal to at the other 2.Which team is more likely to be better? (and yes, that is rhetorical)Team B went 33-3 and swept Team A last season. Team B has won six straight Big 12 titles. Team B lost seven players, including five starters, off of a national championship team and proceeded to go 14-2 in the Big 12 and reach the Sweet Sixteen the next season.
Jeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010
Quote from: TheMadCatter on May 11, 2010, 12:30:09 PMJeff Goodman's Preseason Top 25http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/College-Hoops-Preseason-Top-25-for-2010-11-051010Don't want to let the Khatz out of the bag here, but K-State will be playing 7 teams in this top 25 (possibly 8), with KU/MU twice. Going to be a fun schedule when released.