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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2016, 02:57:42 PM »
if kstate can't thirty, no tourney, perhaps tech can do it.  they've somehow managed to top us so far, getting to 31st against a 340th sos.
I don't think Tech can maintain. I really don't believe in Evans or Livingston that much. They also have struggle against both top 100ish kenpom teams they have played.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2016, 02:58:47 PM »
30 no tourney would be v funny, but would give ammo to brucurriexcuses.

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Making the tourney as a bubble is far worse than having a top 30 kenpom team in the long run.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2016, 03:22:37 PM »
I don't think Tech can maintain. I really don't believe in Evans or Livingston that much. They also have struggle against both top 100ish kenpom teams they have played.

i have to admit that looking at their schedule and mov's it doesn't jump out to me how they achieved 31.  i guess kenpom really liked that utah state win.
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2016, 04:08:46 PM »
I don't think Tech can maintain. I really don't believe in Evans or Livingston that much. They also have struggle against both top 100ish kenpom teams they have played.

i have to admit that looking at their schedule and mov's it doesn't jump out to me how they achieved 31.  i guess kenpom really liked that utah state win.
Basally a perfect kenpom score for them. Beating UTSA by 37, North Texas by 27 and Idaho St. 31 were big boost for them.

Minus Utah St. their biggest strength is beating up on the littlest of guys.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2016, 09:26:11 PM »
Pretty meh game for ken. Bumped to 33 from 35 at pregame.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2016, 09:49:12 PM »
tech got to 30 though.  it's really vexing that even in this, we are being outdone.
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2016, 09:51:11 PM »
like, oh you're kenpom 33 and no good wins at all.  that's cute, kstate, we're kenpom 30 with no good wins and a bad loss, so maybe shut the eff up already, you fat loser.
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2016, 10:35:40 PM »
like, oh you're kenpom 33 and no good wins at all.  that's cute, kstate, we're kenpom 30 with no good wins and a bad loss, so maybe shut the eff up already, you fat loser.

Between, KSU, Tech and ISU we are bound to see a kenpom collapse.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2016, 12:24:13 AM »
Between, KSU, Tech and ISU we are bound to see a kenpom collapse.

i hadn't realized isu's resume was still so incomplete.  the big 12 has gone from looking (if you squinted really hard) like a gang of ten to a big three and little seven.  tournament bids for the seven may come down to how many big three wins they can gather.
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2016, 10:25:42 AM »
Yet, we are kenpom's top league again and everyone is in the top 75. Odd.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2016, 12:54:27 PM »
Yet, we are kenpom's top league again and everyone is in the top 75. Odd.

there aren't any bad teams.
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2016, 02:32:03 PM »
kenpom a/b games are probably a poor substitute for the rpi binned games, but they're easy to look up and arguably a better proxy at the stage of the season than using the current rpi would be.

ku: 1-1 a, 1-0 b
wvu: 1-0 a, 1-1 b
bu: 5-0 a, 0-0 b

isu: 1-3 a, 0-0 b
tech: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ksu: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ou: 1-2 a, 0-1 b
osu: 0-2 a, 3-0 b
tcu: 0-1 a, 1-0 b
ut: 0-2 a, 0-2 b


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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2016, 03:05:18 PM »
isu: 1-3 a, 0-0 b
tech: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ksu: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ou: 1-2 a, 0-1 b
osu: 0-2 a, 3-0 b
tcu: 0-1 a, 1-0 b
ut: 0-2 a, 0-2 b

Techs and TCUs B games are a joke, neutral sites vs 98 and 97 respectfully. I am more lenient at KSU & OSU losses to Maryland(66). They have voodoo magic that has their kenpom luck ranking 8th. They won 3 games against better opponents by 1. It is extremely weird.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2016, 03:47:53 PM »
isu: 1-3 a, 0-0 b
tech: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ksu: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ou: 1-2 a, 0-1 b
osu: 0-2 a, 3-0 b
tcu: 0-1 a, 1-0 b
ut: 0-2 a, 0-2 b

Techs and TCUs B games are a joke, neutral sites vs 98 and 97 respectfully. I am more lenient at KSU & OSU losses to Maryland(66). They have voodoo magic that has their kenpom luck ranking 8th. They won 3 games against better opponents by 1. It is extremely weird.
It's not weird, it's luck, and you seem to already recognize it.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2016, 03:52:04 PM »
isu: 1-3 a, 0-0 b
tech: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ksu: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ou: 1-2 a, 0-1 b
osu: 0-2 a, 3-0 b
tcu: 0-1 a, 1-0 b
ut: 0-2 a, 0-2 b

Techs and TCUs B games are a joke, neutral sites vs 98 and 97 respectfully. I am more lenient at KSU & OSU losses to Maryland(66). They have voodoo magic that has their kenpom luck ranking 8th. They won 3 games against better opponents by 1. It is extremely weird.
It's not weird, it's luck, and you seem to already recognize it.

http://kenpom.com/blog/the-missing-1point-games/

Should have gone into more detail.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2016, 03:57:28 PM »
isu: 1-3 a, 0-0 b
tech: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ksu: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ou: 1-2 a, 0-1 b
osu: 0-2 a, 3-0 b
tcu: 0-1 a, 1-0 b
ut: 0-2 a, 0-2 b

Techs and TCUs B games are a joke, neutral sites vs 98 and 97 respectfully. I am more lenient at KSU & OSU losses to Maryland(66). They have voodoo magic that has their kenpom luck ranking 8th. They won 3 games against better opponents by 1. It is extremely weird.
It's not weird, it's luck, and you seem to already recognize it.

http://kenpom.com/blog/the-missing-1point-games/

Should have gone into more detail.
oh, yeah, that's really interesting.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2016, 07:52:50 AM »
isu: 1-3 a, 0-0 b
tech: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ksu: 0-0 a, 0-1 b
ou: 1-2 a, 0-1 b
osu: 0-2 a, 3-0 b
tcu: 0-1 a, 1-0 b
ut: 0-2 a, 0-2 b

Techs and TCUs B games are a joke, neutral sites vs 98 and 97 respectfully. I am more lenient at KSU & OSU losses to Maryland(66). They have voodoo magic that has their kenpom luck ranking 8th. They won 3 games against better opponents by 1. It is extremely weird.
It's not weird, it's luck, and you seem to already recognize it.
i can't speak to the Gtown and Poke wins but having Trimble seems to be a big part of it

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2016, 11:44:51 AM »
beating the crap out of csu should have been pleasing to kenpom, and it was, pushing the cats up to 31st.  i thought we'd finally break 30, but no such luck.  tech, those sonsofbitches, somehow moved up to 27th with a road win over richmond.  isu peaks its head into 30, no tourney at 29th with one good win and 3 good losses.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2016, 10:55:50 PM »
tech.

these fuckfaces are up to 26th.
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2016, 11:00:05 PM »
tech.

these fuckfaces are up to 26th.

Cats, Raiders, Frogs all 11-1. Probably has never happened before.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2016, 11:29:33 PM »
tech.

these fuckfaces are up to 26th.

Cats, Raiders, Frogs all 11-1. Probably has never happened before.

Pre-big12 play and post-big12 play kenpom ratings are going to be V interesting.

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2016, 10:30:51 AM »
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2016, 10:43:03 AM »
If the Big 12 has multiple 30NTs, does it diminish our accomplishment? Does being the highest ranked of multiple Big 12 30NTs matter?

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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2016, 05:56:46 PM »
on the eve of the conference opener, kenpom has kstate at 30th and predicts an 8-10 record.  tech is 26th with a 9-9 prediction.  i really think one of these teams is going to get it done this year.
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Re: kenpom 30, no tourney
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2016, 10:55:49 PM »
on the eve of the conference opener, kenpom has kstate at 30th and predicts an 8-10 record.  tech is 26th with a 9-9 prediction.  i really think one of these teams is going to get it done this year.

We should coast past Texas tomorrow and I am excited for that.