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Re: LOL TRUMP
« Reply #5000 on: May 24, 2018, 12:16:18 AM »
I am completely fine with building a wall paid 100% with crowdfunding.

i'm not.  its tremendously insulting to our neighbors, not to mention damaging to populations of many larger vertebrates among other things.
can't the vertebrates go through the big beautiful door that i've heard mention of?


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« Reply #5001 on: May 24, 2018, 12:35:12 AM »
no.
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« Reply #5002 on: May 24, 2018, 12:35:53 AM »
 :lol: the crowdfunding will work
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« Reply #5003 on: May 24, 2018, 08:10:51 AM »
I am completely fine with building a wall paid 100% with crowdfunding. We should build a monument to memorialize all of the patriots who donate to the cause, too.
Only if the Mexicans pay for it, as promised
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« Reply #5004 on: May 24, 2018, 08:13:24 AM »
I am completely fine with building a wall paid 100% with crowdfunding.

i'm not.  its tremendously insulting to our neighbors, not to mention damaging to populations of many larger vertebrates among other things.

It would be sad to see it actually get built, but I think the monument for these people's future generations to visit and find out just how racist their ancestors were would be a neat thing.

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« Reply #5005 on: May 24, 2018, 08:47:32 AM »
that's pretty humiliating for trump

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« Reply #5006 on: May 24, 2018, 09:21:35 AM »
I am completely fine with building a wall paid 100% with crowdfunding.

i'm not.  its tremendously insulting to our neighbors, not to mention damaging to populations of many larger vertebrates among other things.

Mexicans aren’t a bunch of snowflakes. Their feelings would be fine. As for wildlife, funding a wall is different than building it in accordance with environmental and other regulations.

My biggest objection was always the waste of taxpayer dollars so I support crowdfunded wall.

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« Reply #5008 on: May 24, 2018, 10:02:02 AM »
ROFL
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Re: LOL TRUMP
« Reply #5012 on: May 24, 2018, 01:11:01 PM »


Mexicans aren’t a bunch of snowflakes. Their feelings would be fine. As for wildlife, funding a wall is different than building it in accordance with environmental and other regulations.

My biggest objection was always the waste of taxpayer dollars so I support crowdfunded wall.

you are wrong on both counts.  i'm not saying they are "snowflakes".  i'm saying it would foster anti-americanism, which would have long-term negative consequences for both nations.  as far as wildlife goes, i don't believe there is a way to build a barrier that is non-permeable to humans but permeable to large mammals.  being able to cross the border is important to maintaining viable populations of several rare and declining species currently (e.g. mexican black bear, sonoran pronghorn) and would prevent or make much less likely the possible recovery of others (e.g. mexican wolves, jaguars) in parts of their range.
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« Reply #5013 on: May 24, 2018, 02:00:05 PM »


Mexicans aren’t a bunch of snowflakes. Their feelings would be fine. As for wildlife, funding a wall is different than building it in accordance with environmental and other regulations.

My biggest objection was always the waste of taxpayer dollars so I support crowdfunded wall.

you are wrong on both counts.  i'm not saying they are "snowflakes".  i'm saying it would foster anti-americanism, which would have long-term negative consequences for both nations.  as far as wildlife goes, i don't believe there is a way to build a barrier that is non-permeable to humans but permeable to large mammals.  being able to cross the border is important to maintaining viable populations of several rare and declining species currently (e.g. mexican black bear, sonoran pronghorn) and would prevent or make much less likely the possible recovery of others (e.g. mexican wolves, jaguars) in parts of their range.

I don't claim to know how your typical Mexican leader or citizen thinks, but my guess is any trade talks or dismantling of NAFTA is much more critical to any anti-american sentiment compared to constructing a wall.  I don't expect my neighbors to take it personally if I build a privacy fence (or even a moat) on my property.

On the second, I don't claim to know what damage would or would not be caused by added development, but I suspect you could mitigate at least some of it with parts that are permeable (to both animals and man) that are patrolled by guards / monitored by cameras.  Again, I think it is a complete waste of money.  I just don't think the down sides are really that problematic if it gets built without taxpayer dollars.

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« Reply #5014 on: May 24, 2018, 02:42:30 PM »
a wall that is not a wall, but actually cameras would mitigate both wildlife impacts and most estrangement with mexico issues.  if crowdfunding that is being proposed anywhere i don't have a problem with it.
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« Reply #5015 on: May 24, 2018, 02:45:42 PM »
I have never really gotten the concept that the wall will make Mexico anti-American.  Like "how dare you try to prevent us from crossing into your country illegally!  boo America!"

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« Reply #5016 on: May 24, 2018, 02:53:50 PM »
I have never really gotten the concept that the wall will make Mexico anti-American.  Like "how dare you try to prevent us from crossing into your country illegally!  boo America!"

it's a slap in the face.  you have to keep in mind that over the last 30 years mexico has slowly but rather dramatically shifted from emphasizing political, cultural and economic ties to other latin american countries with which they share a language, culture and colonial history to an embrace of their north american neighbor with which they share none of those.
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« Reply #5017 on: May 24, 2018, 02:59:35 PM »
I feel like if I know that the real reason people want a wall is that they are racist as eff, then the Mexicans probably know that, too.

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« Reply #5018 on: May 24, 2018, 03:09:18 PM »
I feel like if I know that the real reason people want a wall is that they are racist as eff, then the Mexicans probably know that, too.

i would just say that both mexicans and americans correctly perceive the construction of a wall as a symbolic act.
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« Reply #5019 on: May 24, 2018, 03:16:38 PM »
I feel like if I know that the real reason people want a wall is that they are racist as eff, then the Mexicans probably know that, too.

I don't think it would take a wall for Mexicans to pick up on that.  They have TVs and internet too.

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« Reply #5020 on: May 24, 2018, 03:32:26 PM »
I feel like if I know that the real reason people want a wall is that they are racist as eff, then the Mexicans probably know that, too.

I don't think it would take a wall for Mexicans to pick up on that.  They have TVs and internet too.

the difference is about the same as a judge mentioning a few times in conversation to his kids that he thinks same-race unions are more likely to be successful and a judge setting up an irrevocable trust to disinherit them if them marry someone of a different race.
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« Reply #5021 on: May 24, 2018, 04:58:11 PM »
I think it's really more like the difference between blaming your hispanic neighbors a few times when stuff goes missing from your yard and building a privacy fence around your house.  Sure, it's kind of a monument to your racism, but it also has practical applications.

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« Reply #5022 on: May 24, 2018, 09:20:17 PM »
I think it's really more like the difference between blaming your hispanic neighbors a few times when stuff goes missing from your yard and building a privacy fence around your house.  Sure, it's kind of a monument to your racism, but it also has practical applications.

The wall has no practical applications and people don’t build privacy fences as an anti-theft mechanism.

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« Reply #5023 on: May 24, 2018, 10:57:56 PM »
I think it's really more like the difference between blaming your hispanic neighbors a few times when stuff goes missing from your yard and building a privacy fence around your house.  Sure, it's kind of a monument to your racism, but it also has practical applications.

The wall has no practical applications and people don’t build privacy fences as an anti-theft mechanism.

https://www.safewise.com/blog/burglar-proof-backyard/

Check out #3.

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« Reply #5024 on: May 25, 2018, 08:11:05 AM »
I think it's really more like the difference between blaming your hispanic neighbors a few times when stuff goes missing from your yard and building a privacy fence around your house.  Sure, it's kind of a monument to your racism, but it also has practical applications.

The wall has no practical applications and people don’t build privacy fences as an anti-theft mechanism.

https://www.safewise.com/blog/burglar-proof-backyard/

Check out #3.

I could hop the fence in that picture, and I'm not even in that great of shape.