Author Topic: Kill Energy Independence and Fossil fuels. Kill a pipeline. (Read 6293 times)

renocat · « **on:** September 10, 2016, 08:43:20 PM »

An oil company building a pipeline across the Dakotas was forced to stop by Obama. The company has started construction. They went through the environmental permit process. The okay given. The line was routed away from federal tribal lands. The line though crossed land controlled by the Army Corps of Engineers. The Northern Band of Environmental Activists Squawlers yelled the company is violating scared land that is not on their tribal nation. Looking for a chance to kill oil, obama forced USACE to prohibit the line to cross federal land. IMO this is unacceptable. Would the tribes be upset by a solar farm?

sys · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2016, 09:46:11 PM »

good job by obama and the army. i don't believe the federal judge was capable of rendering the standing rock sioux a fair ruling due to to his heritage and the historical enmity between the sioux and his people.

sys · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2016, 09:47:11 PM »

i'm a partial owner of the pipeline, too. so my opinion is especially valid.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #3 on:** September 11, 2016, 01:30:55 PM »

Dear environmentalists if the oil doesn't go in the pipe it goes on a train, which is way worse for the environment and makes gas cost more which is bad for you poors.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #4 on:** December 04, 2016, 10:11:18 PM »

Thank God

steve dave · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2016, 06:17:20 AM »

Those rough ridin' hippy Sioux environmentalists

renocat · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2016, 06:27:38 AM »

Will Trump.reverse? This was a misuse of the Historical Preservation Act. No Indian cultural sites would affected boring a line under the Missour River. They stopped Keystone this way too.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2016, 07:27:29 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on December 05, 2016, 06:17:20 AM

Those rough ridin' hippy Sioux environmentalists

Need to get a job

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2016, 08:08:05 AM »

This thing will be back on track in January. Trump will be great for energy.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2016, 08:12:01 AM »

A number of Sioux had no problem with the pipeline and were sick of the outsiders, who will now disappear never to give 2 effs about the indigenous people ever again.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2016, 08:15:17 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2016, 08:12:01 AM

A number of Sioux had no problem with the pipeline and were sick of the outsiders, who will now disappear never to give 2 effs about the indigenous people ever again.

Yeah. When the Sioux sends their protesters, they don't send their best.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2016, 09:12:40 AM »

Great great grandpa dax in 1865: a number of slaves had no problem with slavery and were sick of outsiders, who will now disappear never to give 2 effs about the slave population ever again.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2016, 09:34:02 AM »

Sioux Lives Matter

MakeItRain · « **Reply #13 on:** December 05, 2016, 09:56:42 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2016, 08:12:01 AM

A number of Sioux had no problem with the pipeline and were sick of the outsiders, who will now disappear never to give 2 effs about the indigenous people ever again.

What the eff is this crap?

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #14 on:** December 05, 2016, 10:22:32 AM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on December 05, 2016, 08:08:05 AM

This thing will be back on track in January. Trump will be great for energy.

Yes, but it's a shame it's even come to this. Just another part of Obama's pathetic "legacy" that will rapidly be undone, thank goodness.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2016, 11:21:52 AM »

Slavery and Pipeline location: The exact same thing.

#liblogic

MIR, FFS. :facepalm

renocat · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2016, 11:35:00 AM »

This is horse crap. Why are the Dirtfirst nuts hollering and bitching now when the pipeline in about done? All public works project.and pipelines have to go through a public review and comment period as dictated by the National Environmental Protection Act. Tribal Historical Preservation Offices can stop a planned project in its tracks before it gets started. The stopping of projects after they clear through NEPA IS dangerous precedent being set. Even Indigenous peoples have to play by established rules and procedures.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2016, 11:35:09 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2016, 08:12:01 AM

~~A number~~ A lot of Sioux are saying they had no problem with the pipeline and were sick of the outsiders, who will now disappear never to give 2 effs about the indigenous people ever again.

FYP

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2016, 12:40:02 PM »

Obama's legacy: dumbfuckery

Really looking forward to not having to read about this sort of dumbfuckery in the near future.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2016, 01:35:16 PM »

Goddamn dax, do you ever read anything before spouting off. This has nothing at all do do with libs, nothing. I'm actually okay with the pipeline, it goes right through my town, lots of protest arrests here, I play tennis with an employee of Dakota Access. I'm not okay with them going through Lake Oahe, it's completely unnecessary and a giant corporate middle finger to Americans. Keep the pipeline out of these peoples only source of water, it's pretty simple.

http://www.businessinsider.com/north-dakota-access-pipeline-updates-new-route-drinking-water-2016-12

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And pipelines do indeed leak. Since 1995, more than 2,000 significant accidents involving oil and petroleum pipelines have occurred, adding up to roughly $3 billion in property damage, according to data obtained by the Associated Press from the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.

You know why I don't care about the pipeline even though it is literally three miles away from me? It doesn't threaten a sole water source for my kids.

You have to be a real piece of crap to not want these people to move this thing a few miles north at this small section of this long pipeline.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #20 on:** December 05, 2016, 01:38:59 PM »

One other note, none of this wouldn't have even been an issue if the CoE didn't force the Lakota and Dakota people from this area in the 1960's.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #21 on:** December 05, 2016, 05:45:46 PM »

I didn't say a got damn thing about libs, MIR.

Projection, much?

Again, FFS

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #22 on:** December 05, 2016, 07:35:19 PM »

Just go around the Missouri river!

Seems reasonable...in dumbfuckery land. Almost as stupid as sham news source business insider claiming pipelines present "high risk of spill", which is an absurd lie.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #23 on:** December 05, 2016, 07:54:27 PM »

Quote from: memphis on December 05, 2016, 07:50:50 PM

Trump calling a "in my backyard" policy that gives tax breaks to residence around the pipeline

That solves absolutely nothing. Just condemn the right of way and lay the pipe.

CNS · « **Reply #24 on:** December 05, 2016, 08:01:19 PM »

True story:
At one of the Construction Science seminars my senior year, a few students were asked to present on what they did for their summer internship. Small, very shy, girl goes up on stage and starts her presentation by saying that she pretty much just laid pipe all summer(internship with industrial utility installation co). Lol