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I flip flop back and forth. I think OSU is probably the better team, but winning your game should mean something. Otherwise why have them?
Penn State lost 2 games. uw, osu and clemson all have 1 loss. that's where the argument pretty much starts and ends for me. this is just a weird year where the champion of probably the best conference had 2 losses. congrats on winning the big ten, penn state. that's quite an achievement and cause for celebration. unfortunately for PSU, the out of conference games count too.the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.
Quote from: Dlew12 on December 04, 2016, 12:43:48 AMPenn State lost 2 games. uw, osu and clemson all have 1 loss. that's where the argument pretty much starts and ends for me. this is just a weird year where the champion of probably the best conference had 2 losses. congrats on winning the big ten, penn state. that's quite an achievement and cause for celebration. unfortunately for PSU, the out of conference games count too.the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.The problem is the committee pretty much used the opposite reasoning to put Ohio State in the playoff a couple years ago.
Conference championship games mean nothing at this point Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: OK_Cat on December 04, 2016, 01:39:29 AMConference championship games mean nothing at this point Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThey mean as much as any other game. And they means as much as they ever have: It's an achievement in and of itself and an opportunity to boost your SOS.But I don't think it makes any sense to make conference championships a requirement. They were never a requirement for going to the national championship ('01 Nebraska, '03 OU). Putting PSU in wouldn't make any sense. They lost more. End of story. Grats on your conference championship.
Quote from: catastrophe on December 04, 2016, 12:52:42 AMQuote from: Dlew12 on December 04, 2016, 12:43:48 AMPenn State lost 2 games. uw, osu and clemson all have 1 loss. that's where the argument pretty much starts and ends for me. this is just a weird year where the champion of probably the best conference had 2 losses. congrats on winning the big ten, penn state. that's quite an achievement and cause for celebration. unfortunately for PSU, the out of conference games count too.the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.The problem is the committee pretty much used the opposite reasoning to put Ohio State in the playoff a couple years ago.i don't have a problem with a conference championship being considered a tiebreaker of sorts for teams with the same number of losses. i think SOS should be the tiebreaker, but whatever.but i don't think, under any circumstance, a team with more losses should get in over a team with fewer losses. that's like rule number 1 of college football: whoever loses the least gets rewarded.
Quote from: Dlew12 on December 04, 2016, 01:54:39 AMQuote from: OK_Cat on December 04, 2016, 01:39:29 AMConference championship games mean nothing at this point Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThey mean as much as any other game. And they means as much as they ever have: It's an achievement in and of itself and an opportunity to boost your SOS.But I don't think it makes any sense to make conference championships a requirement. They were never a requirement for going to the national championship ('01 Nebraska, '03 OU). Putting PSU in wouldn't make any sense. They lost more. End of story. Grats on your conference championship.It certainly was a requirement for Baylor and TCU in 2014. The committee has shown (and is about to show again) that conference championships matter, but only if the team that wins it is a big name team they want in the playoff.
Western Michigan has 0 losses.
the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.
Feel like Conference championships have to matter. If you get in without one, it's complete bullshit. If a team is good enough to get into the playoffs, they should be good enough to win their rough ridin' conference. If not, then that's their own fault for sucking ass and not getting the job done when they should have. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I hope they'd be rightfully left out. The Big 12 is piss poor.