2016 non-qhatz ncaa football

[catastrophe]

If there is one thing I've learned about the CFP, it's that the committee will somehow justify putting Ohio State in the playoff no matter what.

[Skipper44]

I flip flop back and forth.  I think OSU is probably the better team, but winning your game should mean something.   Otherwise why have them?

i think if it wasn't Pedo State this would be a bigger deal but who wants to defend them?

[CHONGS]

I think that's part of it too for me.  Penn State basically showed you  can get away with it. 

[catastrophe]

GMAFB. Everyone actually involved in the coverup should be in jail, but after that, I don't see any reason to somehow hold the football program to a higher standard.

[MakeItRain]

ESPN making a big deal about Baker Mayfield coming back is hilarious. Where exactly was that midget system qb going to go? Something pro other than sports?

[DQ12]

Penn State lost 2 games.  uw, osu and clemson all have 1 loss.  that's where the argument pretty much starts and ends for me.

this is just a weird year where the champion of probably the best conference had 2 losses.  congrats on winning the big ten, penn state.  that's quite an achievement and cause for celebration.  unfortunately for PSU, the out of conference games count too.

the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.

[catastrophe]

Penn State lost 2 games.  uw, osu and clemson all have 1 loss.  that's where the argument pretty much starts and ends for me.

this is just a weird year where the champion of probably the best conference had 2 losses.  congrats on winning the big ten, penn state.  that's quite an achievement and cause for celebration.  unfortunately for PSU, the out of conference games count too.

the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.

The problem is the committee pretty much used the opposite reasoning to put Ohio State in the playoff a couple years ago.

[DQ12]

Penn State lost 2 games.  uw, osu and clemson all have 1 loss.  that's where the argument pretty much starts and ends for me.

this is just a weird year where the champion of probably the best conference had 2 losses.  congrats on winning the big ten, penn state.  that's quite an achievement and cause for celebration.  unfortunately for PSU, the out of conference games count too.

the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.

The problem is the committee pretty much used the opposite reasoning to put Ohio State in the playoff a couple years ago.

i don't have a problem with a conference championship being considered a tiebreaker of sorts for teams with the same number of losses.  i think SOS should be the tiebreaker, but whatever.

but i don't think, under any circumstance, a team with more losses should get in over a team with fewer losses.  that's like rule number 1 of college football:  whoever loses the least gets rewarded.

[OK_Cat]

Conference championship games mean nothing at this point


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[DQ12]

Conference championship games mean nothing at this point


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They mean as much as any other game.  And they means as much as they ever have:  It's an achievement in and of itself and an opportunity to boost your SOS.

But I don't think it makes any sense to make conference championships a requirement.  They were never a requirement for going to the national championship ('01 Nebraska, '03 OU).

Putting PSU in wouldn't make any sense.  They lost more.  End of story.  Grats on your conference championship.

[SkinnyBenny]

Conference championship games mean nothing at this point


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They mean as much as any other game.  And they means as much as they ever have:  It's an achievement in and of itself and an opportunity to boost your SOS.

But I don't think it makes any sense to make conference championships a requirement.  They were never a requirement for going to the national championship ('01 Nebraska, '03 OU).

Putting PSU in wouldn't make any sense.  They lost more.  End of story.  Grats on your conference championship.

It certainly was a requirement for Baylor and TCU in 2014. The committee has shown (and is about to show again) that conference championships matter, but only if the team that wins it is a big name team they want in the playoff.

[pissclams]

the best 4 teams in the country according to the clamsometer are bama, osu, ou, clem

i don't care about records, the goal is to get the best teams in the playoffs and the clamsometer cuts through the bullshit

[wetwillie]

Penn State lost 2 games.  uw, osu and clemson all have 1 loss.  that's where the argument pretty much starts and ends for me.

this is just a weird year where the champion of probably the best conference had 2 losses.  congrats on winning the big ten, penn state.  that's quite an achievement and cause for celebration.  unfortunately for PSU, the out of conference games count too.

the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.

The problem is the committee pretty much used the opposite reasoning to put Ohio State in the playoff a couple years ago.

i don't have a problem with a conference championship being considered a tiebreaker of sorts for teams with the same number of losses.  i think SOS should be the tiebreaker, but whatever.

but i don't think, under any circumstance, a team with more losses should get in over a team with fewer losses.  that's like rule number 1 of college football:  whoever loses the least gets rewarded.

Western Michigan has 0 losses. 

[DQ12]

Conference championship games mean nothing at this point


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They mean as much as any other game.  And they means as much as they ever have:  It's an achievement in and of itself and an opportunity to boost your SOS.

But I don't think it makes any sense to make conference championships a requirement.  They were never a requirement for going to the national championship ('01 Nebraska, '03 OU).

Putting PSU in wouldn't make any sense.  They lost more.  End of story.  Grats on your conference championship.

It certainly was a requirement for Baylor and TCU in 2014. The committee has shown (and is about to show again) that conference championships matter, but only if the team that wins it is a big name team they want in the playoff.

It was a tiebreaker of sorts between teams with the same number of losses.  I don't think we even need to reach the discussion this year.  If you have teams (with passable schedules) with the same number of losses, then you can start looking at all the other crap. 

Western Michigan has 0 losses. 

the two loss team should always get left out when compared to p5 teams with fewer losses.

[That_Guy]

Feel like Conference championships have to matter. If you get in without one, it's complete bullshit. If a team is good enough to get into the playoffs, they should be good enough to win their rough ridin' conference. If not, then that's their own fault for sucking ass and not getting the job done when they should have.


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[DQ12]

Feel like Conference championships have to matter. If you get in without one, it's complete bullshit. If a team is good enough to get into the playoffs, they should be good enough to win their rough ridin' conference. If not, then that's their own fault for sucking ass and not getting the job done when they should have.


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Well then make it a rule that the CFP takes the 4 best conference champions.  But prioritizing conference records before actual overall records is just crazy to me.

[Trim]

pmshead has a washington hoodie.

[cfbandyman]

This year pretty mich shows why an 8 team playoff would make everyone happy. Conference champs in Bama, Penn St, Clemson, OU, Washington. tOSU and Michigan at larges and Western Michigan top non p5

[chum1]

I'm satisfied. eff Penn State. Not because of the scandal. Just because eff them, they suck.

[OK_Cat]

Lost in all of the playoff drama is that the K-State coaching tree won 2 conference championships yesterday.

Truly America's team


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[Joker]

Non-con SOS only matters to teams outside the P5.  You're better off scheduling garbage and then winning your conference championship like Washington.

If OU had done this instead of playing Houston and tOSU they'd be undefeated with the 2 seed.

[CHONGS]

No

[CHONGS]

I hope they'd be rightfully left out.  The Big 12 is piss poor. 

[Joker]

I hope they'd be rightfully left out.  The Big 12 is piss poor.

No way OU at 12-0 and ranked #2 in the country would be left out.

[CHONGS]

They wouldn't be #2.