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Free tuition for college. Stupid.
« on: August 01, 2016, 08:53:41 AM »
So.the people who gave us Obamacare and countless poorly designed and administered programs, what to give us a suger daddy suprise.  Sugar daddies usually come with a screwin.  Does this include paying for housing?  What will we do about those who get worthless degrees and then can't get a job.  There are better ways to do this.


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Re: Free tuition for college. Stupid.
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2016, 10:41:12 AM »
What are the better ways?

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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2016, 12:05:14 PM »
I'll be needing a refund then

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2016, 12:07:46 PM »
This issue gets so muddled up. 

Is the concern fiscal responsibility or the quantity of graduates that don't have skills for the current job market?  These are two different issues, even when Reno is the OP.

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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2016, 09:02:51 PM »
When public universities become free, they will start out being 16th grade extended high school and retract to 12th grade education. The old "skin in the game" saying is relevant in this situation.

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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2016, 09:08:49 PM »
It doesn't have to be that.  Germany isn't like that.

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2016, 09:15:31 PM »
It doesn't have to be that.  Germany isn't like that.

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yeah, that's just fearmongering.  there's nothing saying standards won't be kept.
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Re: Free tuition for college. Stupid.
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2016, 09:45:56 PM »
It doesn't have to be that.  Germany isn't like that.

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Yeah ok, this isn't Germany so that's irrelevant

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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2016, 09:54:04 PM »
And college isn't free.  What's your point?

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2016, 10:58:55 PM »
It doesn't have to be that.  Germany isn't like that.

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yeah, that's just fearmongering.  there's nothing saying standards won't be kept.

This is America, standards are meant to be lowered.

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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2016, 09:58:03 AM »
tuition was free for residents attending the u of california system from inception through 1970 and through most of that time (afaik) they included several of the higher-rated state universities.  until fairly recently, tuition for residents was fairly nominal at public universities in most states.
we understand it better now that the american century is over and some of us sound more and more like serbs.

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2016, 10:28:17 AM »
My mother (Fresno Bulldogcat) bragged that she paid off her student loans and bought a Porsche like 5 years after graduating.  Then I asked her how much her student loans were and she was like "oh like a thousand dollars maybe?"  Tuition was so cheap.   :frown:

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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2016, 10:33:29 AM »
Even in the early 90's tuition was a flat rate per semester  at KSU so if you were really motivated you could take a crap load of classes each semester for the same price. My dad graduated debt free in 3 years because of that.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2016, 02:41:00 PM »
Not everyone should go to college, guys. Nobody should go to these stupid liberal arts schools where people basically major in a hobby.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2016, 02:58:30 PM »
No one said everyone should go to college.
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2016, 04:10:21 PM »
I would be fine with making free only available to ppl who meet a high level of qualifications such as high test scores, high gpa, etc.  Money makes it not equally available.  I mean, dumb rich kids can still go, but they have to pay.

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Re: Free tuition for college. Stupid.
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2016, 07:06:55 PM »
I would be fine with making free only available to ppl who meet a high level of qualifications such as high test scores, high gpa, etc.  Money makes it not equally available.  I mean, dumb rich kids can still go, but they have to pay.
That's the European model as I understand it. Free college is competitive. If you don't make the cut, you get a trade school

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2016, 07:15:35 PM »
Not everyone should go to college, guys. Nobody should go to these stupid liberal arts schools where people basically major in a hobby.
I got my bachelor's degree at a liberal arts college.

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Re: Free tuition for college. Stupid.
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2016, 09:54:20 PM »
I would be fine with making free only available to ppl who meet a high level of qualifications such as high test scores, high gpa, etc.  Money makes it not equally available.  I mean, dumb rich kids can still go, but they have to pay.


Some states already have this model. I know, for instance, Georgia has the Hope Scholarship, which I believe means tuition is free at state universities if you maintain a 3.0+ GPA throughout high school. There's something similar in Louisiana too, but that one has been the subject of much budgetary back-and-forth lately. Prolly a handful of other states that do it too.
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Re: Free tuition for college. Stupid.
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2016, 09:57:40 PM »
Not everyone should go to college, guys. Nobody should go to these stupid liberal arts schools where people basically major in a hobby.

lots of people go to liberal arts schools and get degrees in STEM fields.

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2016, 11:42:44 PM »
Also, lots of people with liberal arts degrees are very successful

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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2016, 08:36:25 PM »
Also, lots of people with liberal arts degrees are very successful

Bob Krause had an art history degree.


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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2016, 08:40:08 PM »
Also, lots of people with liberal arts degrees are very successful

more than enraged old people would like to acknowledge

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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2016, 08:41:42 PM »
Lots of people who didnt finish high school are successful, fucktards
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2016, 08:43:59 PM »
Lots of people who didnt finish high school are successful, fucktards

very few enraged old people about that interestingly...