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Re: Dallas
« Reply #275 on: July 12, 2016, 01:56:09 PM »
I think in this instance he meant combination
That would make more sense. Every group has their extremes.

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #276 on: July 12, 2016, 01:56:40 PM »
Minus the KKK of course.

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #277 on: July 12, 2016, 01:57:57 PM »
Are there statistics or studies that prove that blacks are treated unfairly at a disproportionate rate?  Genuinely curious.

wackycat posted a link yesterday, either in this thread or the missouri cop thread.
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Re: Dallas
« Reply #279 on: July 12, 2016, 02:06:54 PM »


DBC in 2015 for white's outpaced black and Hispanic/Latino combined.    No marches tho.

lol, congrats to white people

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #280 on: July 12, 2016, 02:07:11 PM »
I think in this instance he meant combination

Thank you for the translation
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Re: Dallas
« Reply #281 on: July 12, 2016, 02:09:22 PM »
Minus the KKK of course.

The KKK doesn't have extremes or they aren't extreme?
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Re: Dallas
« Reply #282 on: July 12, 2016, 02:11:04 PM »
Minus the KKK of course.

The KKK doesn't have extremes or they aren't extreme?
They're all rough ridin' extreme and only serve a hateful message.

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #283 on: July 12, 2016, 02:13:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/752487532311506944

Did you actually read that article? 

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The study, a National Bureau of Economic Research working paper, relied on reports filled out by police officers and on police departments willing to share those reports. Recent videos of police shootings have led to questions about the reliability of such accounts. But the results were largely the same whether or not Mr. Fryer used information from narratives by officers.

Such results may not be true in every city. The cities Mr. Fryer used to examine officer-involved shootings make up only about 4 percent of the nation’s population, and serve more black citizens than average.

Moreover, the results do not mean that the general public’s perception of racism in policing is misguided. Lethal uses of force are exceedingly rare. There were 1.6 million arrests in Houston in the years Mr. Fryer studied. Officers fired their weapons 507 times. What is far more common are nonlethal uses of force.

And in these uses of force, Mr. Fryer found racial differences, which is in accord with public perception and other studies.


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Re: Dallas
« Reply #284 on: July 12, 2016, 02:14:35 PM »
I see. I would say the kkk is a separation of things, with varying degrees of extremism but a general message of a hate group
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Re: Dallas
« Reply #285 on: July 12, 2016, 02:16:54 PM »
This whole situation is pretty sad, but it is especially shitty that Dallas police officers were the victims.  The DPD has made working with the communities in the city a big priority and they've made a lot of headway.


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Re: Dallas
« Reply #286 on: July 12, 2016, 02:18:31 PM »
That study is the best that's out there, nardfrog. Of course i'm not saying it's 100% accurate.

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #287 on: July 12, 2016, 02:19:24 PM »
Also, these conversations reveal who actually paid attention in statistics class. 

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« Reply #288 on: July 12, 2016, 02:19:36 PM »
"nardfrog" still makes me chuckle every time

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #289 on: July 12, 2016, 02:21:23 PM »
Also, these conversations reveal who actually paid attention in statistics class.
Well I got an A in stats, so get mumped Nardfrog!

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« Reply #290 on: July 12, 2016, 02:21:28 PM »
That study is the best that's out there, nardfrog. Of course i'm not saying it's a 100% accurate.

The composition of the study is flawed.  You can't draw any definitive conclusions about accuracy as a result.  It's an interesting look at some of the data but it doesn't really confirm or deny much. 

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« Reply #291 on: July 12, 2016, 02:23:14 PM »
Well I got an A in stats, so get mumped Nardfrog!

Being able to plug in numbers in a formula doesn't equal comprehension. 

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #292 on: July 12, 2016, 02:25:10 PM »
You're right. That Harvard Professor is a real dumbass.

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #293 on: July 12, 2016, 02:28:36 PM »
You're right. That Harvard Professor is a real dumbass.

That's not what I said. 

I said it's an interesting look at the data, but it is far from being definitive.  Small sample size, geographic restrictions, and self reports=bad study design for meaningful conclusions. 

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #294 on: July 12, 2016, 02:31:32 PM »
Well someone asked if there was a study, so I threw what was out there.  :comeatme:

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« Reply #295 on: July 12, 2016, 02:32:15 PM »
Also, direct quote from aforementioned Harvard professor.

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Mr. Fryer emphasizes that the work is not the definitive analysis of police shootings, and that more data would be needed to understand the country as a whole.

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #296 on: July 12, 2016, 02:42:21 PM »
Why would @sys recommend a flawed study for me to read?

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« Reply #297 on: July 12, 2016, 02:47:29 PM »
The study did show that black people are about 20% more likely to be mistreated by means other than getting shot. I'm not sure how reliable those numbers are if the numbers that say they are no more likely to get shot can't be used, though.

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Re: Dallas
« Reply #298 on: July 12, 2016, 02:51:28 PM »
The study did show that black people are about 20% more likely to be mistreated by means other than getting shot. I'm not sure how reliable those numbers are if the numbers that say they are no more likely to get shot can't be used, though.

Re-read the article.  That data came from another much larger study.

Edit: Also, never said that it couldn't be used.  Just noted that you can't make definitive conclusions due to the study's design.

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