The United States-Over 5000 Nukes. But you . . . Iran . . .

[sonofdaxjones]

surrounded by Nuclear Powers, including Israel which refuses to sign any NNP treaties and refuses to disclose its Nuclear Arsenal . . . you can have none.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3884508,00.html

Now that Hillary is running all over the world squawking about how Iran has violated IAEA mandates . . . but have they really??    Navy Chief says Iran's speed boats pose "threat" to the US Navy.   The Rhetoric just keeps getting ratcheted up by this war mongering administration.   

[jtksu]

I cant imagine any scenerio with Iran having nukes that could end up poorly.  Not one.

[sonofdaxjones]

How about Pakistan, can you think of any scenarios where Pakistan which already possesses nuclear weapons that would be bad??

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

surrounded by Nuclear Powers, including Israel which refuses to sign any NNP treaties and refuses to disclose its Nuclear Arsenal . . . you can have none.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3884508,00.html

Now that Hillary is running all over the world squawking about how Iran has violated IAEA mandates . . . but have they really??    Navy Chief says Iran's speed boats pose "threat" to the US Navy.   The Rhetoric just keeps getting ratcheted up by this war mongering administration.   

Are you saying that Iran should be allowed to have nukes?

[sonofdaxjones]

Think about what you're saying.

You live in a country that has over 5000 nukes, and that has been in more wars in the last 60 years around the world than any other country.

Let's review the last 21 years.  Invaded Panama, First Gulf War, Bombed Yugoslavia for 78 straight days, invaded Iraq, Invaded Afghanistan and are currently conducting military combat operations in at last 4 other countries that we know of . . .  

A country that has used Nuclear Weapons once, and seriously discussed using them in Korea and Vietnam.  In addition, we had a president who contemplated introducing one of the most powerful weapons of aggression in the world in the Neutron Bomb.  OH but it was a stop gap measure to stop those hordes of Russian Tanks . . . horse$hit, it was the ultimate weapon of aggression, low yield, kill the people but don't blow up the buildings and then move in and take over.  

Now, we are telling a country surrounded by Nuclear Powers, that it can't have Nuclear Weapons.  

[OregonSmock]

Yeah, great idea, 'Pad.  Just what the world needs is more middle eastern countries with nuclear weapons.
 

[OK_Cat]

This is some weird deja vu stuff, because when Bush was president and bitching about nukes, the other side was bitching about his nuclear policies.

Of course Iran has nukes.   

[sonofdaxjones]

Well Ben, not to worry, you war mongering hero is going to ensure that they don't get them, one way or another.

How many thousands of pounds of Bunker Buster munitions were moved to Diego Garcia again??

[sonofdaxjones]

Hey Ben when is the United States going to make Israel disclose it's Nuclear Arsenal??

Don't hold your breath as long as Ron "AIPAC" Emanuel is COS.

Love all of our "tough talk" on Israel, yet we just keep right on selling them weapons and giving them billions of dollars in aid.

[Dave Wooderson]

 

“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury,”
"This regime (Israel) will one day disappear."
"Israel is doomed to be "wiped from the map" in "a war of destiny."
"The countdown for the destruction of Israel" has begun."
"Zionists are "the personification of Satan."

Ahmadinejad

I couldn't ever imagine why anyone would want Iran to have Nukes unless they want all the Jews in Israel dead.

[pike]

I'm split on this issue. On one hand Iran is surrounded by nuclear powers, and on the other their leaders are f*cking crazy. So idk 

[Dugout DickStone]

The US could change its position and tell Iran to go ahead and develop nukes, and Israel would nuke them the next day.  So this is a moot issue.

[sonofdaxjones]

Then let Israel nuke them the next day.

Doubt it will be Nuke though.  Either way, I'd say there's a 75% chance somebody is going to be bombing Iran in the next 18 months.   Just can't let those Persians be a nuclear power.

[OregonSmock]

What percentage Iranian are you, 'Pad?
 

[pike]

Then let Israel nuke them the next day.

Doubt it will be Nuke though.  Either way, I'd say there's a 75% chance somebody is going to be bombing Iran in the next 18 months.   Just can't let those Persians be a nuclear power.

The propaganda machine is in full force. I say less than 18 months.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Think about what you're saying.

You live in a country that has over 5000 nukes, and that has been in more wars in the last 60 years around the world than any other country.

Let's review the last 21 years.  Invaded Panama, First Gulf War, Bombed Yugoslavia for 78 straight days, invaded Iraq, Invaded Afghanistan and are currently conducting military combat operations in at last 4 other countries that we know of . . .  

A country that has used Nuclear Weapons once, and seriously discussed using them in Korea and Vietnam.  In addition, we had a president who contemplated introducing one of the most powerful weapons of aggression in the world in the Neutron Bomb.  OH but it was a stop gap measure to stop those hordes of Russian Tanks . . . horse$hit, it was the ultimate weapon of aggression, low yield, kill the people but don't blow up the buildings and then move in and take over.  

Now, we are telling a country surrounded by Nuclear Powers, that it can't have Nuclear Weapons.  

All you have pointed out is what a burden to be the worlds police force, and we've done it without using nukes since 1945, even though we have thousands. Amanutjob has already said he will use his ASAP and needs to be taken out Jack Bauer style.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm split on this issue. On one hand Iran is surrounded by nuclear powers, and on the other their leaders are f*cking crazy. So idk 

I agree. I don't have a problem with a country developing nukes for self defense, unless that country is unstable. An even bigger worry than Ahmadinejad getting nukes is who will end up with these nukes when he inevitably gets overthrown? We really don't want Al Qaeda to have nuclear missiles.

[Paul Moscow]

Think about what you're saying.

You live in a country that has over 5000 nukes, and that has been in more wars in the last 60 years around the world than any other country.

Let's review the last 21 years.  Invaded Panama, First Gulf War, Bombed Yugoslavia for 78 straight days, invaded Iraq, Invaded Afghanistan and are currently conducting military combat operations in at last 4 other countries that we know of . . .  

A country that has used Nuclear Weapons once, and seriously discussed using them in Korea and Vietnam.  In addition, we had a president who contemplated introducing one of the most powerful weapons of aggression in the world in the Neutron Bomb.  OH but it was a stop gap measure to stop those hordes of Russian Tanks . . . horse$hit, it was the ultimate weapon of aggression, low yield, kill the people but don't blow up the buildings and then move in and take over.  

Now, we are telling a country surrounded by Nuclear Powers, that it can't have Nuclear Weapons.  

All you have pointed out is what a burden to be the worlds police force, and we've done it without using nukes since 1945, even though we have thousands. Amanutjob has already said he will use his ASAP and needs to be taken out Jack Bauer style.

You do realize that Team America World Police was a satire, right?

[Cire]

dax is a terrorist!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Think about what you're saying.

You live in a country that has over 5000 nukes, and that has been in more wars in the last 60 years around the world than any other country.

Let's review the last 21 years.  Invaded Panama, First Gulf War, Bombed Yugoslavia for 78 straight days, invaded Iraq, Invaded Afghanistan and are currently conducting military combat operations in at last 4 other countries that we know of . . .  

A country that has used Nuclear Weapons once, and seriously discussed using them in Korea and Vietnam.  In addition, we had a president who contemplated introducing one of the most powerful weapons of aggression in the world in the Neutron Bomb.  OH but it was a stop gap measure to stop those hordes of Russian Tanks . . . horse$hit, it was the ultimate weapon of aggression, low yield, kill the people but don't blow up the buildings and then move in and take over.  

Now, we are telling a country surrounded by Nuclear Powers, that it can't have Nuclear Weapons.  

All you have pointed out is what a burden to be the worlds police force, and we've done it without using nukes since 1945, even though we have thousands. Amanutjob has already said he will use his ASAP and needs to be taken out Jack Bauer style.

You do realize that Team America World Police was a satire, right?

Pretty sure it was based on a true story though.

[jtksu]

Dax, have you been to NYC lately?

[sonofdaxjones]

Love it the useful idiots bye the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

Pakistan is an amazingly unstable country has been for decades . . . they have nukes.   It's probably the most unstable its ever been thanks to Obama's drone wars.

[Pete]

Then let Israel nuke them the next day.

Doubt it will be Nuke though.  Either way, I'd say there's a 75% chance somebody is going to be bombing Iran in the next 18 months.   Just can't let those Persians be a nuclear power.

I will be solidly against any administration that gets us involved with another conflict.  I'm obviously more liberal than your average GPC poster, but I am rough ridin' done with this administration if they get us involved in another conflict.

Limestone is right, let rough ridin' Israel clean up their own rough ridin' mess.

[OregonSmock]

Love it the useful idiots bye the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

Pakistan is an amazingly unstable country has been for decades . . . they have nukes.   It's probably the most unstable its ever been thanks to Obama's drone wars.

 



Pakistan is no where near as unstable as Iraq/Iran.  They are moderately westernized compared to other middle eastern countries.  

[Pete]

Love it the useful idiots bye the propaganda hook, line and sinker.

Pakistan is an amazingly unstable country has been for decades . . . they have nukes.   It's probably the most unstable its ever been thanks to Obama's drone wars.

Come on man, the cluster eff in Afghanistan was set in motion the day boots hit the soil.  Just like every occupying regime that has ever set foot in that joint.  Has Obama kept it going?  Yep.  Would a republican have done the same (or more)?  Yep.  

I don't approve of either.  

I respect the hell out of our troops for following orders, but they are all dying in vain in both Iraq and Afghan.