Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue

[Panjandrum]

Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...

the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.

It's like he and Wefald are the exact opposite.  One was endearing but probably somewhat inadequate (Wefald), and one is doing a killer job but tone deaf with his PR moves (Animal).

The job Schulz has done at KSU in the last several years has been nothing short of amazing on the academic side.  I don't want him to go anywhere.  However, he's probably not the most likable guy.  That's fine as long as he gets the job done.

Contrast that with Currie, who is just a complete jerk, who needs to be flawless at his job lest the fans want to hang him by the belt loops in his Dockers from a coat rack.

[Panjandrum]

Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...

the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.

not to derail the thread, but wefald wouldn't have done that.

Wefald knew what made us tick.  He was amazing at that.

He never would have gotten us to the point where Schulz has, though.  At least not at the late stages of his career.

[ChiComCat]

I couldn't care less about the EMAW thing.  I don't need the administration's stamp of approval on how I fan.

[kso_FAN]

Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...

the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.

It's like he and Wefald are the exact opposite.  One was endearing but probably somewhat inadequate (Wefald), and one is doing a killer job but tone deaf with his PR moves (Animal).

The job Schulz has done at KSU in the last several years has been nothing short of amazing on the academic side.  I don't want him to go anywhere.  However, he's probably not the most likable guy.  That's fine as long as he gets the job done.

Contrast that with Currie, who is just a complete jerk, who needs to be flawless at his job lest the fans want to hang him by the belt loops in his Dockers from a coat rack.

I think its hard to do both academics and athletics well all the time. I think Kirk tries, probably too hard, and that gets him into trouble.

I'm thinking if Wefald had been around with the heat of social media that something dumb would've happened with him too, so I'm pretty meh with that comparison.

I agree that Currie is often weird and not likable, not unlike oscar. But really the main thing that makes anyone not like him right now is Frank/oscar. Yeah, there is other stuff, but his mismanagement of this one thing is the biggest thing. Granted, right now it is a really big thing and eventually may be big enough that he is forced to move on.

[CNS]

Kirk would do himself a huge favor if he ended his twitter acct but made it someone's job to keep up on twitter at some level for presence/marketing.  Someone who isn't really really bad at it.

[kso_FAN]

Kirk would do himself a huge favor if he ended his twitter acct but made it someone's job to keep up on twitter at some level for presence/marketing.  Someone who isn't really really bad at it.

Yep.

[Panjandrum]

Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...

the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.

It's like he and Wefald are the exact opposite.  One was endearing but probably somewhat inadequate (Wefald), and one is doing a killer job but tone deaf with his PR moves (Animal).

The job Schulz has done at KSU in the last several years has been nothing short of amazing on the academic side.  I don't want him to go anywhere.  However, he's probably not the most likable guy.  That's fine as long as he gets the job done.

Contrast that with Currie, who is just a complete jerk, who needs to be flawless at his job lest the fans want to hang him by the belt loops in his Dockers from a coat rack.

I think its hard to do both academics and athletics well all the time. I think Kirk tries, probably too hard, and that gets him into trouble.

I'm thinking if Wefald had been around with the heat of social media that something dumb would've happened with him too, so I'm pretty meh with that comparison.

I agree that Currie is often weird and not likable, not unlike oscar. But really the main thing that makes anyone not like him right now is Frank/oscar. Yeah, there is other stuff, but his mismanagement of this one thing is the biggest thing. Granted, right now it is a really big thing and eventually may be big enough that he is forced to move on.

The Texas thing was an empirical example that he would have been horribly bad at social media.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Wefald was embarrassing enough without the help of social media. I can only imagine how terrible he would have been on twitter.

[Panjandrum]

Wefald was embarrassing enough without the help of social media. I can only imagine how terrible he would have been on twitter.

Is there any doubt?

[CNS]

Wefald was embarrassing enough without the help of social media. I can only imagine how terrible he would have been on twitter.

The post Huggs time would have been amazing, though.

[chuckjames]

 

Wefald was embarrassing enough without the help of social media. I can only imagine how terrible he would have been on twitter.

The post Huggs time would have been amazing, though.

Remember when Wefald cried in the press conference when Huggs left. Now imagine him on Twitter. AMAZING I TELL YOU.

[cfbandyman]

Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...

the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.

not to derail the thread, but wefald wouldn't have done that.

Wefald knew what made us tick.  He was amazing at that.

He never would have gotten us to the point where Schulz has, though.  At least not at the late stages of his career.

That's what I was getting at in my post earlier ITT. Schulz knows the love k-state people have of k-state, but doesn't understand it. I think he thinks in his mind he is some sort of moderator or regulator of the whims of k-state, when in reality he should be a facilitator of the desire of k-state, something as you mentioned, Wefald was really, really good at, (and consequently LHCBS is too) they "get it." Wefald could read the pulse of the university and know exactly what is going on, and push it to the forefront and do something about it. UPKS feels the pulse, and wonders why it's not doing what he wants it to do, and tries to correct it, instead of listening to it.

Completely agree that Wefald and Schulz are like opposites in each respect, and interesting how much further being a "people" person gets you. I do wish UPKS would learn some Wefald lessons, cause if he does he will be kicking ass at the job for a long, long time with a lot of very, very happy people.

[sonofdaxjones]

Panj, if looking at financials I'd look at K-State's annual NCAA report.   Not that the DOE EinA financial disclosures don't have good information, it's just that they don't allow schools to submit a report showing a revenue loss, and they don't require schools to really explain how they broke even, or made a profit. 

KU is a great example, unlike almost everyone else, KU used capital contributions in their DOE EinA disclosure as that was the only way they were going to submit a report that didn't show a substantial operating loss in FY 2015.    K-State OTOH only used operating revenues on its DOE EinA report, so KU people actually believe their athletic department had operational revenue of over $100 million last year, when in fact on an operational level it was only about $90 million and on an operational level, they were well into the red.    In fact, had they not counted more forgiven debt as revenue, they would have been hemorrhaging on an operational basis.   But I digress.

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[chum1]

How can we really trust any numbers when we know that KorrUpt always successfully falsifies all numbers?

[DQ12]

I couldn't care less about the EMAW thing.  I don't need the administration's stamp of approval on how I fan.

I understand that sentiment.  But I viewed it as a slap in the face to the community he was leading.  We - us - here - the members of goEMAW, personally worked real hard to resurrect that phrase, and when the AD started adopting it and the band was doing it, it was COOL. It allowed us to really share EMAW with the rest of the fanbase.  And then Mendenhall wrote her ridiculous article and then Kirk stepped in.

"Yes, I know I'm new and I know this thing has sort of been a part of your tradition for decades, but apparently you people are too stupid to understand that it's actually sexist so we won't be doing that anymore."

So condescending.  Who the hell is Kirk Schulz and why did he try and take away our thing?

[wetwillie]

I think it's become pretty apparent that if we want our school to compete at the highest level in the two revenue sports, Kirk is going to have to go.  I don't know how Currie would operate under a different UP but I think he is definitely being hamstrung at some level.

[michigancat]

I couldn't care less about the EMAW thing.  I don't need the administration's stamp of approval on how I fan.

I understand that sentiment.  But I viewed it as a slap in the face to the community he was leading.  We - us - here - the members of goEMAW, personally worked real hard to resurrect that phrase, and when the AD started adopting it and the band was doing it, it was COOL. It allowed us to really share EMAW with the rest of the fanbase.  And then Mendenhall wrote her ridiculous article and then Kirk stepped in.

"Yes, I know I'm new and I know this thing has sort of been a part of your tradition for decades, but apparently you people are too stupid to understand that it's actually sexist so we won't be doing that anymore."

So condescending.  Who the hell is Kirk Schulz and why did he try and take away our thing?

good grief

[nicname]

At this point, if you're still going to games next season. You're basically saying you hate K-State basketball.

[wetwillie]

At this point, if you're still going to games next season. You're basically saying you hate K-State basketball.

I think that's unfair and quite frankly way out of line.



Where did you do your undergrad btw?

[nicname]

At this point, if you're still going to games next season. You're basically saying you hate K-State basketball.

I think that's unfair and quite frankly way out of line.



Where did you do your undergrad btw?

Cats, man.

[nicname]

Woefully ignorant or indifferent to what's best for KSU bball?

[Ptolemy]

If you pay for and attend KState basketball games you are operating counter to capitalism. If an apple vendor sells you worm-laden apples you stop buying apples from him.

The same goes for KState basketball. If the product on the court is not entertaining enough to earn your attendance dollar, don't pay and don't attend.  This is how capitalism works. This is how KState basketball was great once and will be great again!

[RickRampus]

I bet Rick Rampus could get it done.

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[wetwillie]

If you pay for and attend KState basketball games you are operating counter to capitalism. If an apple vendor sells you worm-laden apples you stop buying apples from him.

The same goes for KState basketball. If the product on the court is not entertaining enough to earn your attendance dollar, don't pay and don't attend.  This is how capitalism works. This is how KState basketball was great once and will be great again!

Vote with your feets!