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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #100 on: March 21, 2016, 11:42:37 AM »
I think its probably safe to say that at best next year's attendance will be 10K and probably somewhere between 9-10K if oscar stays.

If Brad is hired Currie can probably sell out the arena while raising ticket prices.

Correct?
I think this is probably accurate (although those oscar numbers may be a little high, actually).  I think people are dying to get back and have a basketball program worth emotionally investing in.  I know I sure am.


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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2016, 11:43:51 AM »
If the schedule makers do us favors, the attendance will be very similar (if not better) than this season.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #102 on: March 21, 2016, 11:44:50 AM »
If the schedule makers do us favors, the attendance will be very similar (if not better) than this season.

They will do us no favors.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #103 on: March 21, 2016, 11:48:02 AM »
I think its probably safe to say that at best next year's attendance will be 10K and probably somewhere between 9-10K if oscar stays.

If Brad is hired Currie can probably sell out the arena while raising ticket prices.

Correct?

With oscar, I'd expect actual attendance to be around 6k. Paid attendance might be around 9k.

I'm talking paid attendance, its the only thing we track.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #104 on: March 21, 2016, 11:50:44 AM »
I realize people think there is magic in consecutive bad seasons, but I'd be shocked if paid attendance dips below 10.5k. Surprised if it dips below 11k. KSU loves it a bubble team and that's exactly what we'll have no matter who the coach is. (probably).

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #105 on: March 21, 2016, 11:54:05 AM »
KSU loves it a bubble team

i agree. it's what kstate fans think they deserve and it's what they expect.

bubble teams are so exciting! will we get those last few shots to fall and make the big dance?!?! better get to the game and find out!

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #106 on: March 21, 2016, 11:56:10 AM »
I remember a decent chunk of time when we would mock ku's reported attendance figures - even the hoops ones being 16,300 every game despite there definitely being seats available (talking to you sherron collins) - because we honestly reported the number present.  Doesn't seem like it was that long ago but maybe time flies when you're downward trajector'n.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #107 on: March 21, 2016, 11:56:22 AM »
I realize people think there is magic in consecutive bad seasons, but I'd be shocked if paid attendance dips below 10.5k. Surprised if it dips below 11k. KSU loves it a bubble team and that's exactly what we'll have no matter who the coach is. (probably).

I think there are a lot of factors that will keep that core 10-11k coming back.  Claws is probably in the top 2 factors for at least 9k of them.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #108 on: March 21, 2016, 11:58:36 AM »
I realize people think there is magic in consecutive bad seasons, but I'd be shocked if paid attendance dips below 10.5k. Surprised if it dips below 11k. KSU loves it a bubble team and that's exactly what we'll have no matter who the coach is. (probably).

I think there are a lot of factors that will keep that core 10-11k coming back.  Claws is probably in the top 2 factors for at least 9k of them.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #109 on: March 21, 2016, 11:59:45 AM »
KSU loves it a bubble team

i agree. it's what kstate fans think they deserve and it's what they expect.

bubble teams are so exciting! will we get those last few shots to fall and make the big dance?!?! better get to the game and find out!
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.


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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #110 on: March 21, 2016, 12:02:16 PM »
KSU loves it a bubble team

i agree. it's what kstate fans think they deserve and it's what they expect.

bubble teams are so exciting! will we get those last few shots to fall and make the big dance?!?! better get to the game and find out!
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.

I was one of the 42k or whatever that was there during his last game against ISU.

I love going to KSU football games.  :dunno:

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #111 on: March 21, 2016, 12:02:50 PM »
KSU loves it a bubble team

i agree. it's what kstate fans think they deserve and it's what they expect.

bubble teams are so exciting! will we get those last few shots to fall and make the big dance?!?! better get to the game and find out!
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.

i really wasn't meaning to comment on people buying tickets or not buying tickets. do whatever you want as far as that goes and i'm certainly not going to fault a kstate fan for going to a kstate game. i really do think though that most ksu fans are pretty comfortable being on the bubble and honestly kind of enjoy/think that's where we should be. it's interesting and every game matters if simply making the tournament is your goal.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #112 on: March 21, 2016, 12:06:29 PM »
KSU loves it a bubble team

i agree. it's what kstate fans think they deserve and it's what they expect.

bubble teams are so exciting! will we get those last few shots to fall and make the big dance?!?! better get to the game and find out!
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.

i really wasn't meaning to comment on people buying tickets or not buying tickets. do whatever you want as far as that goes. i really do think though that most ksu fans are pretty comfortable being on the bubble and honestly kind of enjoy/think that's where we should be. it's interesting and every game matters if simply making the tournament is your goal.
I know you weren't, but the sentiment that it's other KSU people's faults or they're somehow blameworthy for not caring enough or not caring properly like we do just gets a little weird.

Even assuming that's the case, it doesn't excuse inaction on Currie's part, because they'll like whoever is in charge disirregardlessly.  And God bless'em, they're going to games. 


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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #113 on: March 21, 2016, 12:09:12 PM »
life on the bubble really is pretty exciting. It's basically where we were for 4 out of 5 of Frank's seasons. And man, it felt like every game mattered so much. It almost felt like every game was the difference between Frank getting fired or not.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #115 on: March 21, 2016, 12:09:51 PM »
also thanks for that lecture DaDlew12

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #116 on: March 21, 2016, 12:22:16 PM »
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.

This is where I fall too. I don't feel any need to get personal with coaches/admin.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #117 on: March 21, 2016, 12:28:07 PM »
also thanks for that lecture DaDlew12
:cyclist:  just trying to remind everyone where the blame lies. 

also, just another LOL at the artist formerly known as "the animal." 

Vote with your feet?  Really?  That's the only kind of bellweather you, as the most social media obsessed president in the country, can recognize? 


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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #118 on: March 21, 2016, 12:32:38 PM »
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.

This is where I fall too. I don't feel any need to get personal with coaches/admin.

The Artist Formily known as The Animal sure makes it hard to not hate him with his shut up and take the athletics we give you stance.

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« Reply #119 on: March 21, 2016, 01:06:43 PM »
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.

This is where I fall too. I don't feel any need to get personal with coaches/admin.

The Artist Formily known as The Animal sure makes it hard to not hate him with his shut up and take the athletics we give you stance.

Meh.

I agree that he made some poor choices in responding to people on twitter and the block announcements are unnecessary. The latest screenshot on twitter is just an administrative response to a fan and doesn't bother me in the least. Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him, I've been around educational administrators long enough to see this is just what they do. He's still better than most IMO.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #120 on: March 21, 2016, 01:30:50 PM »
Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...
the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.


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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #121 on: March 21, 2016, 01:33:43 PM »
Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...
the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.

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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #122 on: March 21, 2016, 01:35:29 PM »
Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...
the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.
not to derail the thread, but wefald wouldn't have done that.


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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #123 on: March 21, 2016, 01:36:09 PM »
I think it's a little unfair to fault people or thumb your nose at people for buying tickets and going to the games.  After the Fitz article and the apparent sentiment on GPC, it's pretty clear that many tucks have turned (enough) on oscar too.  That said, if they still like k-state basketball and it's a fun part of their life, who are we to blame them for going to games?

I went to plenty of Ron Prince games after deciding that he needed to go.

This is where I fall too. I don't feel any need to get personal with coaches/admin.

The Artist Formily known as The Animal sure makes it hard to not hate him with his shut up and take the athletics we give you stance.

Meh.

I agree that he made some poor choices in responding to people on twitter and the block announcements are unnecessary. The latest screenshot on twitter is just an administrative response to a fan and doesn't bother me in the least. Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him, I've been around educational administrators long enough to see this is just what they do. He's still better than most IMO.

He is better than most, and I agree with that, he and his admin is very organized, but almost too much so that he's kinda inflexible when anything don't go "according to plan." I think the difference I am seeing now (other than general rabble rabble from the plebs that email and tweet at him which is something Wefald didn't have to deal with) is that Kirk didn't learn a Wefald lesson, and that is athletics are the gateway to the university, and instead of at least tacitly acknowledging that things are not ideal (in this email) and not where we'd like to be (which he can do without making oscar his employee look like a dumbass, even if he is) he would rather burns bridges and comes off as holier than thou. I'm sure in his mind he's seems himself as a braking mechanism to the inevitable meltdowns of fickle and vocal fans, (hence the line in the email about voting with feet and wallets, he knows the hands that feed him), but that's not what he looks like at all.

Overall, it's incredibly short sighted of him (and ADJC) to not see the opportunity in front of them. K-Staters love k-staters, especially successful ones who have played and continued to spend time here. Wasting that to support a coach that has little support going into next year, and having even the mouthpiece fitz turn to Brad shows PKS and ADJC are increasingly tone deaf to the needs and wants of the fans, and likewise @k-stateathletics.     
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Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« Reply #124 on: March 21, 2016, 01:37:41 PM »
Kirk hasn't done anything to make me hate him...
the EMAW business is indefensible in my eyes.  there's nothing he could do that could ever make me forgive him for that.

It was dumb. I don't like it. But educational admin gonna educationally admin.

Kirk and John haven't done anything make me endear them. Running a college town university building a great sense of community should be a top priority.