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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2016, 10:00:14 PM »
oscar is not wrong.  Best 16 loss team in the history of the sport.

The ball bounces or way five times this year and oscar is COY.

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2016, 10:07:48 PM »
He's also correct in that we're not that far behind Tech. They are only one spot ahead of us in conference standings.

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2016, 10:27:19 PM »
i really liked the we sucked in practice surprised game started well guys really deserve nit combo

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2016, 10:29:37 PM »
I Love Tubby's quote. Great backhanded compliment.

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2016, 10:39:00 PM »
When the COTY in the Big 12 praises your team, you listen.

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2016, 10:43:05 PM »
I would like to beat OSU and then play in the NIT
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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2016, 10:45:37 PM »
KSU and Tech are equals this year - garbage wednesday teams.

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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2016, 11:47:24 PM »
I Love Tubby's quote. Great backhanded compliment.

yeah like when self said we were better than 2-6 earlier in the year. could not be wooldrige'ing any harder

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2016, 12:56:09 AM »
We had 3 OT losses and lost to Texas by 4 in 2games

Add in we had struggles vs Ku Isu and Baylor at home ( 31-10 run, 24-3 run, and Bay started game with 25-11 lead).... It's no surprise we end with 5-13 result.  If we were a little better we could have been 7-11 or 8-10. 9-9 if we were a OK offensive team all Conf season

No excuse for not getting 10-11 wins next year in B12 and 12-13 would be a pleasant surprise


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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2016, 01:05:15 AM »
We had 3 OT losses and lost to Texas by 4 in 2games

Add in we had struggles vs Ku Isu and Baylor at home ( 31-10 run, 24-3 run, and Bay started game with 25-11 lead).... It's no surprise we end with 5-13 result.  If we were a little better we could have been 7-11 or 8-10. 9-9 if we were a OK offensive team all Conf season

No excuse for not getting 10-11 wins next year in B12 and 12-13 would be a pleasant surprise

oscar will have plenty of excuses for not reaching those B12 win levels.

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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2016, 03:57:50 AM »

We had 3 OT losses and lost to Texas by 4 in 2games

Add in we had struggles vs Ku Isu and Baylor at home ( 31-10 run, 24-3 run, and Bay started game with 25-11 lead).... It's no surprise we end with 5-13 result.  If we were a little better we could have been 7-11 or 8-10. 9-9 if we were a OK offensive team all Conf season

No excuse for not getting 10-11 wins next year in B12 and 12-13 would be a pleasant surprise
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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2016, 07:04:26 AM »
We had 3 OT losses and lost to Texas by 4 in 2games

Add in we had struggles vs Ku Isu and Baylor at home ( 31-10 run, 24-3 run, and Bay started game with 25-11 lead).... It's no surprise we end with 5-13 result.  If we were a little better we could have been 7-11 or 8-10. 9-9 if we were a OK offensive team all Conf season

No excuse for not getting 10-11 wins next year in B12 and 12-13 would be a pleasant surprise

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2016, 08:05:25 AM »
I was very disappointed in the effort during the middle 20 minutes of that game.
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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2016, 09:04:59 AM »
i really liked the we sucked in practice surprised game started well guys really deserve nit combo

yes.

"i love this team and really want them to get into the nit and also they have had a crappy last week of practice so i expected us to lose to texas tech."-oscar


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« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2016, 09:51:36 AM »
Am I a bad fan for not wanting the NIT bid?  I'm kinda in the same place where I was last year......let's just get this year over with.

only bad fans want an nit bid.

I want us to get the bid then lose to Wichita State by 25.
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« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2016, 10:02:40 AM »
Am I a bad fan for not wanting the NIT bid?  I'm kinda in the same place where I was last year......let's just get this year over with.

only bad fans want an nit bid.

I want us to get the bid then lose to Wichita State by 25.
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1 top 50 RPI win. 4 Top 100 RPI wins. But still #10 in kenpom and several losses without VanVleet. It will be interesting to see what the committee does. Without their NCAA success and a Final Four, they would be in real trouble, plus, the committee using other metrics starting last year.

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2016, 10:11:09 AM »
Am I a bad fan for not wanting the NIT bid?  I'm kinda in the same place where I was last year......let's just get this year over with.

only bad fans want an nit bid.

I want us to get the bid then lose to Wichita State by 25.
Aren't they dancing?

1 top 50 RPI win. 4 Top 100 RPI wins. But still #10 in kenpom and several losses without VanVleet. It will be interesting to see what the committee does. Without their NCAA success and a Final Four, they would be in real trouble, plus, the committee using other metrics starting last year.
I was basing my thoughts solely off of what Joe said last night. I figured it meant they had had a decent season and like you said with recent success. I'd take a game against WSU in a heartbeat. Though it'd be in their gym. Haha

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2016, 11:06:05 AM »
Am I a bad fan for not wanting the NIT bid?  I'm kinda in the same place where I was last year......let's just get this year over with.

only bad fans want an nit bid.

I want us to get the bid then lose to Wichita State by 25.
Aren't they dancing?

1 top 50 RPI win. 4 Top 100 RPI wins. But still #10 in kenpom and several losses without VanVleet. It will be interesting to see what the committee does. Without their NCAA success and a Final Four, they would be in real trouble, plus, the committee using other metrics starting last year.
I was basing my thoughts solely off of what Joe said last night. I figured it meant they had had a decent season and like you said with recent success. I'd take a game against WSU in a heartbeat. Though it'd be in their gym. Haha

Without their previous accomplishments they wouldn't be even talked about right now. We have a real shocker-off right now because everyone at espn has them firmly in and everyone at CBS has them firmly out. I'm not sure how as a bubble team you can be firmly in when most conference tournaments haven't even started yet bids will be stolen.



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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2016, 11:51:24 AM »
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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2016, 12:50:46 PM »
Am I a bad fan for not wanting the NIT bid?  I'm kinda in the same place where I was last year......let's just get this year over with.

only bad fans want an nit bid.

I want us to get the bid then lose to Wichita State by 25.
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1 top 50 RPI win. 4 Top 100 RPI wins. But still #10 in kenpom and several losses without VanVleet. It will be interesting to see what the committee does. Without their NCAA success and a Final Four, they would be in real trouble, plus, the committee using other metrics starting last year.

They will be the 8/9 opposite ku, and it's going to be glorious.
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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2016, 01:07:34 PM »
Nothing new....Ksu 2016 BB has Bad D + Bad O stretches that are too Long.

Hey Mr. Negative Posse, if we had 20 minutes of 18-48 that means we had 20 minutes of 53-32.

That's pretty good.

I understand BB is a game of runs.  And alot of times runs will happen when you play bad O and either play bad D or give up easier shots because of the poor O.

14-4 type runs happen ( we had 1 to start game). But when you let Tech go off for 48 pts over 30 Poss and then only Ave a measley 0.60 PPP yourself in the same time frame... You are in seriously trouble.  At some point the O or the D has to play better in that stretch...so a 17-5 run to tie the game at 28-28, doesn't end up being 59-41 later in the game.

We allowed 31-10 runs to Ku and 24-3 to Isu at home this year, and we never recovered from the big deficit. We mounted a comeback because....BB is a game of runs...but we never took the lead in either game and I never thought we were gonna win.

Sorry for being so negative FAN ;) but as frustrated as I am, I do hold some hope for next year and 2017-18

I think these stats show two glaring weaknesses this team has: lack of high major depth and a reliable "go to" guy or scorer.

The first problem is exasperated by foul trouble and the loss of Stokes. I fully expected this problem this season, but I think it could have been better managed through more coherent substitution patterns. We should grow out of this some next season with the red shirts and new recruits...I hope.

As to problem #2. We needed Wes or Edwards to be that guy, and I do not think they are physically talented enough to be that person. Hopefully, with some maturity, Brown or Wade or Stokes can be that person on any given day.

I knew this season would be a struggle. I thought it would be worse earlier and better later. The opposite seemed to happen. The lack of effort, at times, concerns me.  I think next year has to be a monstrous step forward, or Weber should go.
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« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2016, 01:15:38 PM »
Define "monstrous step"...

IMO that means top 1/3 of the league. NCAAs should never be in doubt and if this "young team" just needed experience, we should compete for a title in a league that allegedly loses lots of players. No worse than 8-1 at home and 4-5 on the road in the league. That should be good enough for a 3 seed in the tournament.

I know oscar is going to be back next year and since that is the case he needs to achieve well beyond some bubble team that sits near .500 in the league if he has any chance of pulling me back in.

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Re: To be or not Tubby, that is the question...; Tech ADV
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2016, 01:26:03 PM »
I mean competing for 40 minutes and no pissing down your leg after the under 4.

I think that may achieve top 3 or 4 in the league next year, so what you posted.
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