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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #850 on: February 02, 2021, 05:53:07 PM »
I wonder if the play hard chart uses basketballs

Pretty sure Oscar's play hard chart uses cotton balls.

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« Reply #851 on: February 02, 2021, 07:50:29 PM »
Chingon, do something science-y that shows how close he’s been to what should’ve been expected when KSU hired him.

lol, you're too much man

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« Reply #852 on: February 02, 2021, 07:54:13 PM »
Only down by 8 at halfttime. Bigtime moral victory. Extensions all around.

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« Reply #853 on: February 02, 2021, 07:56:04 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

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« Reply #854 on: February 02, 2021, 07:58:29 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is. 
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« Reply #855 on: February 02, 2021, 08:06:04 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is.

This is going to probably unpopular but I really don't think their rotation talent wise is better than ours. I firmly believe that if the coaches swapped sidelines at half K-State would win.

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« Reply #856 on: February 02, 2021, 08:06:57 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is.

No, I meant what channel is it on?

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« Reply #857 on: February 02, 2021, 08:10:56 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is.

No, I meant what channel is it on?

lol espn+

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« Reply #858 on: February 02, 2021, 08:11:54 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is.

No, I meant what channel is it on?

lol espn+
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« Reply #859 on: February 02, 2021, 08:20:38 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is.

No, I meant what channel is it on?

lol espn+

I know. I was just being a rascal.

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« Reply #860 on: February 02, 2021, 08:24:56 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is.

No, I meant what channel is it on?

lol espn+
Mike “Liability” McGuirl is like a walking boot for this team. Always slowing em down.


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He's no bueno, Billy Hairpiece would absolutely make him serviceable like Marcus Garrett though.

Can you imagine what Billy could do for Pack and Bradford? My God.

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« Reply #861 on: February 02, 2021, 08:26:03 PM »
I can't even watch this crap...

I’m still in disbelief how bad KU is.

No, I meant what channel is it on?

lol espn+
Mike “Liability” McGuirl is like a walking boot for this team. Always slowing em down.


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He's no bueno, Billy Hairpiece would absolutely make him serviceable like Marcus Garrett though.

Can you imagine what Billy could do for Pack and Bradford? My God.
Pack and Bradford will be good someday. Bill would make them monsters.


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« Reply #862 on: February 02, 2021, 08:34:56 PM »
The announcers get so bored calling our games, every single rough ridin' one, with the exception of A&M, devolves into story time by mid 2nd half.

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« Reply #863 on: February 02, 2021, 08:38:12 PM »
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Illinois Fighting Illini (Big Ten Conference) (2003–2012)
2003–04   Illinois   26–7   13–3   1st   NCAA Division I Sweet 16
2004–05   Illinois   37–2   15–1   1st   NCAA Division I Runner-up
2005–06   Illinois   26–7   11–5   T–2nd   NCAA Division I Round of 32
2006–07   Illinois   23–12   9–7   T–4th   NCAA Division I Round of 64
2007–08   Illinois   16–19   5–13   T–9th   
2008–09   Illinois   24–10   11–7   T–2nd   NCAA Division I Round of 64
2009–10   Illinois   21–15   10–8   5th   NIT Quarterfinal
2010–11   Illinois   20–14   9–9   T–4th   NCAA Division I Round of 32
2011–12   Illinois   17–15   6–12   9th   
Illinois:   210–101 (.675)   89–65 (.578)   

Kansas State Wildcats (Big 12 Conference) (2012–present)
2012–13   Kansas State   27–8   14–4   T–1st   NCAA Division I Round of 64
2013–14   Kansas State   20–13   10–8   5th   NCAA Division I Round of 64
2014–15   Kansas State   15–17   8–10   T–6th   
2015–16   Kansas State   17–16   5–13   8th   
2016–17   Kansas State   21–14   8–10   6th   NCAA Division I Round of 64
2017–18   Kansas State   25–12   10–8   4th   NCAA Division I Elite Eight
2018–19   Kansas State   25–9   14–4   T–1st   NCAA Division I Round of 64
2019–20   Kansas State   11–21   3–15   10th   
2020–21   Kansas State   5–8   1–4      
Kansas State:   166–118 (.585)   73–76 (.490)
   

I thought these were going to be more similar.  I'd still like to see Chingon do something beyond me cutting and pasting wikipedia to help objectively measure if oscar is failing to meet expectations.

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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #864 on: February 02, 2021, 08:48:51 PM »
the worst ku team since the early 80’s is running us by 25+


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #865 on: February 02, 2021, 09:09:46 PM »
I didn't think oscar was capable of getting fired this year until the Baylor game. A 30 pt KU loss combined with losing out should do it.  I don't know that we're capable of winning a game with the competition we have left but I also don't know that KU is capable of beating us by 30.

they very much are capable of that

Guessing they probably could have put up another touchdown if they felt like it

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« Reply #866 on: February 02, 2021, 09:32:54 PM »
I didn't think oscar was capable of getting fired this year until the Baylor game. A 30 pt KU loss combined with losing out should do it.  I don't know that we're capable of winning a game with the competition we have left but I also don't know that KU is capable of beating us by 30.

they very much are capable of that

Guessing they probably could have put up another touchdown if they felt like it

That's about KU's marker, really. They are a shade better than mediocre.

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« Reply #867 on: February 02, 2021, 11:14:58 PM »
When it’s all said and done, oscar will go down as a below average KSU b-ball coach.

Since WWII......

Since WWII......

Genuinely curious why you chose WWII as the start date for your "below average" argument?

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« Reply #868 on: February 02, 2021, 11:42:59 PM »
Here's how I think I'd rank those 11 post WWII. Would be interested to see how others do (and why) as well.

1. Tex
2. Jack and Jack
4. oscar
5. Frank
6. Lon
7. Cotton
8. Hugs
9. Altman
10. Asbury
11. Wooly

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« Reply #869 on: February 03, 2021, 12:21:33 AM »
Can confirm oscar sucks ass
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« Reply #870 on: February 03, 2021, 02:19:58 AM »
When it’s all said and done, oscar will go down as a below average KSU b-ball coach.

Since WWII......

Since WWII......

Genuinely curious why you chose WWII as the start date for your "below average" argument?

I shouldn’t have said all time. It’s a harder argument to make, but still a case. There is a lack of measurables the further back you go. I started using Post-WWII because that’s when KSU basketball began to set its standard, and I was trying to show that oscar wasn’t up to snuff.

Here is some all-time.

oscar is 12th of 20 all time in conference winning percentage.
He’s 6th out of 20 all time in conference title percentage.
He’s 12th out of 20 all time in *adjusted avg conference finish.

*there were 4 coaches who were very bad, but played in a 6 team big 12. I’ve adjusted for this and placed them below oscar. Unadjusted oscar is 16th of 20 in average conference finish.

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1. Gardner 4.8
2. Winter 3.73
3. Kruger 3
4. Martin 2.8
5. Hartman 2.625
6. Fitzsimmons 2
7. Webber 1.33
8. Altman .25
9. Asbury .17
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« Reply #871 on: February 03, 2021, 08:49:58 AM »
When it’s all said and done, oscar will go down as a below average KSU b-ball coach.

Since WWII......

Since WWII......

Genuinely curious why you chose WWII as the start date for your "below average" argument?

Everyone on the court wore boots and a suit and tie before WWII. The game is completely different now.

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« Reply #872 on: February 03, 2021, 08:55:15 AM »
We're gonna run the picket fence at em.  Just don't get caught watchin the paint dry.
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« Reply #873 on: February 03, 2021, 08:55:51 AM »
When it’s all said and done, oscar will go down as a below average KSU b-ball coach.

Since WWII......

Since WWII......

Genuinely curious why you chose WWII as the start date for your "below average" argument?

Everyone on the court wore boots and a suit and tie before WWII. The game is completely different now.

I mean, any sane person can agree the game is different now than it was before WWII... but are you saying it's the same now as it was in 1946?

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« Reply #874 on: February 03, 2021, 09:03:26 AM »
All these stats have shown is what we all said, oscar's lows are way too damn low and the last 2 years are beyond unacceptable.

But when it's all said and done, oscar will be the 4th most accomplished coach (out of 23) in K-State Men's basketball history. His embarrassing lows bring down his overall win % and conference %, but his highs are only beat by the best to ever coach at K-State (Tex, Jack, and Jack).

He does not get knocked because he chose to stay at K-State while others ran off to other jobs.