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« Reply #650 on: January 28, 2021, 09:23:01 AM »
Clearly there was some adversity that was out of our control.  Once the unfair adversity is accounted for, we lost to Baylor by 12 in a gritty effort by the kittens

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« Reply #651 on: January 28, 2021, 09:33:51 AM »
“He plays for Kansas State. He doesn't play for Will Howard University." -Chris Klieman 10/14/2023

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« Reply #652 on: January 28, 2021, 09:44:52 AM »
I'd take Jans over oscar, but it's silly to try and name someone that I wouldn't take over oscar.  It seems like we should have higher standards, but I don't think we deserve to have higher standards.

we deserve oscar.  he's the hell that pushing frank out sentenced us to.
We dodged a goddamn bullet thanks to oscar (Being hired)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Martin_(basketball)

oscar had nothing to do with Frank getting fired.
No crap. We dodged the bullet of Frank. I fixed it for you.

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« Reply #653 on: January 28, 2021, 09:46:21 AM »
https://twitter.com/jpullz0/status/1354814529427828742?s=21


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Meh. A million people passed on recruiting Pullen, but he's still salty with oscar.

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« Reply #654 on: January 28, 2021, 09:47:50 AM »
The answer is both
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« Reply #655 on: January 28, 2021, 10:43:28 AM »
The answer is both

Yes, it's not just one or the other that ends in the biggest margin of defeat in K-State history. It was one very bad team, and one very good team.

God, give me #anyonebutBruce right now and i'll sunshine pump the absolute crap out the hire.

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« Reply #656 on: January 28, 2021, 11:12:41 AM »
I am really confused on WackyCat's position. WC, could you clarify what your opinion of the situation is?

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« Reply #657 on: January 28, 2021, 11:16:33 AM »
Oscar saved us from frank getting doubled up by Baylor. Pretty straight forward really.
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« Reply #658 on: January 28, 2021, 11:18:54 AM »
I am really confused on WackyCat's position. WC, could you clarify what your opinion of the situation is?
People who still bring up Frank are huge idiots, because he sucks and go ahead and fire oscar as well, but thanks for the success, oscar.  :dunno:

Can't be that hard to see. oscar saved us from many years of no ncaa years appearances, zero conference titles, guys in the league, etc.  :dunno:

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« Reply #659 on: January 28, 2021, 11:23:27 AM »
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« Reply #660 on: January 28, 2021, 11:38:28 AM »
i think wacky's equation is:  ignore all of oscar's bads, and all of frank's goods


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« Reply #661 on: January 28, 2021, 11:49:00 AM »
i think wacky's equation is:  ignore all of oscar's bads, and all of frank's goods
Yes. The opposite of what everyone else does. “Frank is amazing! (Don’t look here—> South Carolina (1 for 9 in tourney appearances))”. “oscar sucks ass!—> (Here’s how he lucked into 2 big 12 Championships, ending the streak, an elite 8, etc.” It’s pathetic!

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« Reply #662 on: January 28, 2021, 11:50:11 AM »
They both have weaknesses and strengths.

Time for oscar to leave

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« Reply #663 on: January 28, 2021, 01:29:12 PM »
Frank is irrelevant to this discussion

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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #664 on: January 28, 2021, 04:32:37 PM »
https://twitter.com/kellisrobinett/status/1354648996283883520?s=21


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Just heard the audio of oscar talking about the bus not starting and having to walk to the game. This feels a lot like Wooldridge's neck brace days before he was fired, guys. 

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« Reply #665 on: January 28, 2021, 04:34:33 PM »
I have a new mission and I need all of you to help me. If you see anyone on this board or on Twitter try to tell you we can't afford the buyout for oscar, which is dirt cheap, almost certainly the cheapest in the Big 12, please tell them they are wrong. It's actually the opposite, we can't afford not to buy him out.

I don't know if people think the athletic department works like a bodega, but every large school athletic department budget has room for buyouts. Last fiscal year we nearly had a $90 million dollar budget as an athletic department. If we don't get a penny from a donor for the buyout, they simply make room in other places in the budget. We don't need to take out a payday loan because we only have $230 in the cash register.

Now what being strapped with the budget can hurt is how much we pay the next guy. Although I don't think we're hurting as badly as some think.

We'll see what happens with Gene's list, but the next guy will be the gauge of how cash strapped we are, not the buyout.

This afternoon I started thinking, and thought Gene had paid all the money to get rid of Bill and his staff (roughly $4 mill?) but to somewhat counter he brought Klieman in for cheap, move some things around and we're good..... then I realized he paid Klieman almost half a mill more than Bill in base salary. LOL.

I do not trust Gene to be able to take care of this... like, at all

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« Reply #666 on: January 28, 2021, 04:54:57 PM »
I have a new mission and I need all of you to help me. If you see anyone on this board or on Twitter try to tell you we can't afford the buyout for oscar, which is dirt cheap, almost certainly the cheapest in the Big 12, please tell them they are wrong. It's actually the opposite, we can't afford not to buy him out.

I don't know if people think the athletic department works like a bodega, but every large school athletic department budget has room for buyouts. Last fiscal year we nearly had a $90 million dollar budget as an athletic department. If we don't get a penny from a donor for the buyout, they simply make room in other places in the budget. We don't need to take out a payday loan because we only have $230 in the cash register.

Now what being strapped with the budget can hurt is how much we pay the next guy. Although I don't think we're hurting as badly as some think.

We'll see what happens with Gene's list, but the next guy will be the gauge of how cash strapped we are, not the buyout.

This afternoon I started thinking, and thought Gene had paid all the money to get rid of Bill and his staff (roughly $4 mill?) but to somewhat counter he brought Klieman in for cheap, move some things around and we're good..... then I realized he paid Klieman almost half a mill more than Bill in base salary. LOL.

I do not trust Gene to be able to take care of this... like, at all

So MIR your premise is Gene has the money and is just still on the fence about firing oscar?
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« Reply #667 on: January 28, 2021, 10:31:25 PM »
I have a new mission and I need all of you to help me. If you see anyone on this board or on Twitter try to tell you we can't afford the buyout for oscar, which is dirt cheap, almost certainly the cheapest in the Big 12, please tell them they are wrong. It's actually the opposite, we can't afford not to buy him out.

I don't know if people think the athletic department works like a bodega, but every large school athletic department budget has room for buyouts. Last fiscal year we nearly had a $90 million dollar budget as an athletic department. If we don't get a penny from a donor for the buyout, they simply make room in other places in the budget. We don't need to take out a payday loan because we only have $230 in the cash register.

Now what being strapped with the budget can hurt is how much we pay the next guy. Although I don't think we're hurting as badly as some think.

We'll see what happens with Gene's list, but the next guy will be the gauge of how cash strapped we are, not the buyout.

This afternoon I started thinking, and thought Gene had paid all the money to get rid of Bill and his staff (roughly $4 mill?) but to somewhat counter he brought Klieman in for cheap, move some things around and we're good..... then I realized he paid Klieman almost half a mill more than Bill in base salary. LOL.

I do not trust Gene to be able to take care of this... like, at all

So MIR your premise is Gene has the money and is just still on the fence about firing oscar?

I didn't say anything like that. I don't know what Gene's motivations are, I'm just saying that we have the money to afford a damn $2 million buyout. Luckily I think only wacky is pushing that narrative at this point and he seemingly just exists to troll.

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« Reply #668 on: January 28, 2021, 10:36:23 PM »
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Meh. A million people passed on recruiting Pullen, but he's still salty with oscar.

He's fine with oscar you clown and has been for a while. If that tweet, after a 50 point loss, offended your delicate sensibilities it might be time for your to reevaluate everything.

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« Reply #669 on: January 29, 2021, 08:02:33 AM »
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Meh. A million people passed on recruiting Pullen, but he's still salty with oscar.

He's fine with oscar you clown and has been for a while. If that tweet, after a 50 point loss, offended your delicate sensibilities it might be time for your to reevaluate everything.
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« Reply #670 on: January 29, 2021, 08:21:50 AM »
I have a new mission and I need all of you to help me. If you see anyone on this board or on Twitter try to tell you we can't afford the buyout for oscar, which is dirt cheap, almost certainly the cheapest in the Big 12, please tell them they are wrong. It's actually the opposite, we can't afford not to buy him out.

I don't know if people think the athletic department works like a bodega, but every large school athletic department budget has room for buyouts. Last fiscal year we nearly had a $90 million dollar budget as an athletic department. If we don't get a penny from a donor for the buyout, they simply make room in other places in the budget. We don't need to take out a payday loan because we only have $230 in the cash register.

Now what being strapped with the budget can hurt is how much we pay the next guy. Although I don't think we're hurting as badly as some think.

We'll see what happens with Gene's list, but the next guy will be the gauge of how cash strapped we are, not the buyout.

This afternoon I started thinking, and thought Gene had paid all the money to get rid of Bill and his staff (roughly $4 mill?) but to somewhat counter he brought Klieman in for cheap, move some things around and we're good..... then I realized he paid Klieman almost half a mill more than Bill in base salary. LOL.

I do not trust Gene to be able to take care of this... like, at all

So MIR your premise is Gene has the money and is just still on the fence about firing oscar?

I didn't say anything like that. I don't know what Gene's motivations are, I'm just saying that we have the money to afford a damn $2 million buyout. Luckily I think only wacky is pushing that narrative at this point and he seemingly just exists to troll.

His buyout pre 4/30 is 2.8 MM plus whatever coach we want to hires buyout (maybe another 1MM?).  The AD just sold an 8th home game (not popular move with the fan base) to the Dallas Cowboys I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we aren’t exactly flush with cash.  I think Gene will easily get the money from wealthy donors so it’s probably a moot point.
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« Reply #671 on: January 29, 2021, 08:35:49 AM »
Probably a cheesedick idea, and I have no idea if oscar wants to coach until he's 75... but his buyout is $2 million after April 30th, I'd offer oscar a buyout somewhere between 2 mill and 2.8 to retire right now (quarterly payments of $100,000-$120,000 for 5 years) and give him a K-State ambassador position for some additional amount.

Anything to get him to step down... but that could maybe keep guys on campus, help us move on, while not being a huge financial burden.

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« Reply #672 on: January 29, 2021, 08:51:53 AM »
Good idea. 

Offer a guaranteed financial package over 5 years.   Keep the Colbert Hills access, keep the club seats at football games, keep the incidentals expense account over that 5 years, 2 new courtesy cars a year for oscar and the Mrs over 5 years.   Hell, then have it revert to some ceremonial position after that, $150K a year and a few perks.  Whatever it takes to end this.


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« Reply #673 on: January 29, 2021, 09:17:46 AM »
i would rather hid dork ass face never be seen again

pay him 3 million with the understanding that he can never return

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« Reply #674 on: January 29, 2021, 10:29:05 AM »
I have a new mission and I need all of you to help me. If you see anyone on this board or on Twitter try to tell you we can't afford the buyout for oscar, which is dirt cheap, almost certainly the cheapest in the Big 12, please tell them they are wrong. It's actually the opposite, we can't afford not to buy him out.

I don't know if people think the athletic department works like a bodega, but every large school athletic department budget has room for buyouts. Last fiscal year we nearly had a $90 million dollar budget as an athletic department. If we don't get a penny from a donor for the buyout, they simply make room in other places in the budget. We don't need to take out a payday loan because we only have $230 in the cash register.

Now what being strapped with the budget can hurt is how much we pay the next guy. Although I don't think we're hurting as badly as some think.

We'll see what happens with Gene's list, but the next guy will be the gauge of how cash strapped we are, not the buyout.

This afternoon I started thinking, and thought Gene had paid all the money to get rid of Bill and his staff (roughly $4 mill?) but to somewhat counter he brought Klieman in for cheap, move some things around and we're good..... then I realized he paid Klieman almost half a mill more than Bill in base salary. LOL.

I do not trust Gene to be able to take care of this... like, at all

So MIR your premise is Gene has the money and is just still on the fence about firing oscar?

I didn't say anything like that. I don't know what Gene's motivations are, I'm just saying that we have the money to afford a damn $2 million buyout. Luckily I think only wacky is pushing that narrative at this point and he seemingly just exists to troll.

His buyout pre 4/30 is 2.8 MM plus whatever coach we want to hires buyout (maybe another 1MM?).  The AD just sold an 8th home game (not popular move with the fan base) to the Dallas Cowboys I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think we aren’t exactly flush with cash.  I think Gene will easily get the money from wealthy donors so it’s probably a moot point.

I feel like I'm repeating myself but the things you're taking about are reasons why we won't give Kelvin Samson or John Belein $4 million and why we're going to hire a low major coach or an assistant who isn't sought after by another high major program. Those aren't reasons why oscar will keep his job. Never ever in the modern history of power 5 has a coach kept his job simply because the AD couldn't afford to fire him. Did you not see how many football coaches were fired in the pandemic? I assure you that high major, mid major, and high major coaches will get fired this spring.

Two other things. Gene selling that game had nothing to do with the pandemic, the negotiations for that started in the fall of 2019. Also the thought of a booster scratching a check for a buyout is grossly overstated, it really doesn't work like that in nearly every case. If that didn't happen for Snyder it certainly won't happen for oscar. Buyouts are often reflective of what a school can afford and they are almost always done in installments.