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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2016, 01:16:35 PM »
if we're really being honest with ourselves, nelson galle's days should be numbered

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« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2016, 03:01:58 PM »
The endgame of this cause if for currie to fire oscar and conduct another coaching search?

absolutely

no.  it is to negotiate with and hire brad underwood to coach kstate men's bball.  if successful, weber can be fired or demoted or whatever. 
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« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2016, 03:10:58 PM »
The endgame of this cause if for currie to fire oscar and conduct another coaching search?

absolutely

no.  it is to negotiate with and hire brad underwood to coach kstate men's bball.  if successful, weber can be fired or demoted or whatever. 

Achieving that goal should be the plot of hot tub time machine 3.

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« Reply #53 on: March 01, 2016, 03:23:26 PM »
You have to ask, who does oscar resemble more at this point? And which direction is he headed?


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« Reply #54 on: March 01, 2016, 03:34:22 PM »
I can absolutely see oscar bugging out for a valley school if we get a new AD.

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« Reply #55 on: March 01, 2016, 03:40:32 PM »
Underwood was a P5 assistant for 7 years and now has 4 years of D1 head coaching experience. 

Some of the reasoning for not considering him is pure idiocy.   With that said options need to be explored.   But nothing is going to change under oscar Weber.   The fact that some are pinning their hopes on a weaker Big 12 elevating Kstate is just another indication of how bad Weber really is.   

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« Reply #56 on: March 01, 2016, 03:56:48 PM »
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I think the future looks very promising, with a solid freshman class this year and a couple of excellent recruits set to come in next season.  Now if only those dead set on running our coach out of town will pipe down and let that have a chance to be.

We had a very young team this year and a key injury that hurt us terribly, plus we had four heartbreaking losses that could have torn the guts out of a lesser squad.  If  those 3 overtime conference defeats & the North Carolina game had gone the other way, as they very easily could have, we'd be talking a minimum of 22 wins and probably a tourney-bound team.

Give us another year's experience and an infusion of some highly-rated newcomers, combined with key losses to other conference schools' teams, and I'm predicting that 23-24-25 win bunch of Wildcats that challenges for the league title next season.  I'm not a sunshine pumper.  I just think oscar deserves a chance to coach these youngsters that he recruited for another year or two. 
Please, 'Cat fans, quit bashing the coach and just get behind your team.  The negativity is a very destructive force.

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« Reply #57 on: March 01, 2016, 04:03:20 PM »
Lots of things to consider, that's for sure.

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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2016, 04:13:30 PM »
This will lead to Seth Greenberg.

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« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2016, 04:14:06 PM »
This will lead to Seth Greenberg.

Currie can only make so many shitty hires before he gets fired, right?

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« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2016, 04:26:54 PM »
This will lead to Seth Greenberg.

Currie can only make so many shitty hires before he gets fired, right?

who would fire him? Kirk Schultz?

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« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2016, 05:15:05 PM »
This will lead to Seth Greenberg.

Currie can only make so many shitty hires before he gets fired, right?

who would fire him? Kirk Schultz?
well if this Schultz, guy has a line with the animal I hope be pushes that.
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« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2016, 05:18:39 PM »
he is no longer named the animal.  he doesn't deserve that nickname anymore.


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« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2016, 05:18:58 PM »
Guys, look at Schultz.  This caring about sports thing is new, and probably a fad.  I mean, he likes trolling ku fans on twitter in football, but he probably doesn't really even care about the football. 

Currie is ours until he doesn't want to be.
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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2016, 05:33:51 PM »
This will lead to Seth Greenberg.

Currie can only make so many shitty hires before he gets fired, right?

who would fire him? Kirk Schultz?
well if this Schultz, guy has a line with the animal I hope be pushes that.

oh eff did I spell his name wrong and you got confused?

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« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2016, 06:21:17 PM »
How long before Schulz retires?


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« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2016, 07:00:53 PM »
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« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2016, 07:53:53 PM »
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« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2016, 09:29:04 AM »
Trajectory was never my word. That's Currie's word. If precedent is set, he needs to look at his use of the word.


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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2016, 09:33:33 AM »
i guess cur-dog just feels as though 18 years = valid sample size versus a 4 year trajectory


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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2016, 09:37:39 AM »
i guess cur-dog just feels as though 18 years = valid sample size versus a 4 year trajectory


Trends are trends. The more Weber coaches, the more he loses and he makes fewer NCAA trips.

I guess he could jump back up to that 60-70% winning percentage suddenly. I mean, why wouldn't he repeat those first 3 years he had at Illinois?

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Re: firebrucewebernow.com
« Reply #71 on: March 02, 2016, 09:41:31 AM »
i guess cur-dog just feels as though 18 years = valid sample size versus a 4 year trajectory


Trends are trends. The more Weber coaches, the more he loses and he makes fewer NCAA trips.

I guess he could jump back up to that 60-70% winning percentage suddenly. I mean, why wouldn't he repeat those first 3 years he had at Illinois?

you're right, trends are nothing more than trends; they're only a part of a larger data set.
the greater data set tells us that oscar is going to get to the tournament 55% of the time.

at k-state he's at 50% and anyone with eyes expect us to be better next year with a good opportunity to get back into the ncaas.


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« Reply #72 on: March 02, 2016, 09:44:31 AM »
at k-state he's at 50% and anyone with eyes expect us to be better next year with a good opportunity to get back into the ncaas.

True. And I have no doubt he'll get next year to prove that can be done.

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« Reply #73 on: March 02, 2016, 09:55:39 AM »
i don't want to be in a place defending oscar because i hate him but when the riptide that is goEMAW decides to throw their collective weight behind someone whom i don't believe can at least deliver the success that oscar can, we need to start objectively examining the frying pan that we find ourselves in.  and that's not what's going on here lately.

if you think so little of our program today that you feel that brad underwood is our best option over a coach who delivers ncaa bids at a near 60% rate, what do you think the perception of the program will be after pushing oscar out in short order, and then brad if he fails?  because odds are very high that he won't have the success that oscar had.

so in a period of 12-14 years we will have churned huggs, frank, oscar and brad.  if i'm an up and coming coaching prospect, i'm looking for stability and k-state isn't it.


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« Reply #74 on: March 02, 2016, 10:00:52 AM »
Huggs and Frank did fine here and are doing fine elsewhere now. I don't buy that other coaches think oscar is a great coach, no matter how much they sling that crap to the media. I don't see anyone saying, "oh no, they fired the great oscar weber I better stay away from there"