The Bible

[PoetWarrior]

the entire basis of most current form christian religions is that you are a piece of trash who deserves to burn in eternal hellfire despite there being almost nothing in the actual bible that says that.

that's why hell was thrown in later

Thank you both for your expert testimony.

[CNS]

There is no afterlife.  Heaven and Hell are both right here.  You choose which you live in by your actions.

Yes!

If this crap life is all we have to look forward to then we have it pretty rough.

I disagree. Life is pretty great.  Probably goes back to the whole "you choose which you live in" comment I made.  I mean, I wouldn't even want Heaven to be better, if it did exist.  Highs need lows. 

[Institutional Control]

I feel bad for PW having a crap life.  Probably because he spends too much time talking about Jesus. 

[PoetWarrior]

I don't sin all that often. Certainly not constantly every day.

But surely you don't think of yourself as a "good" person.

I surely do. And I'm Christian, too!

This gets us back to our original question. What makes you good? Tell us.

[Rage Against the McKee]

There is no afterlife.  Heaven and Hell are both right here.  You choose which you live in by your actions.

Yes!

If this crap life is all we have to look forward to then we have it pretty rough.

I disagree. Life is pretty great.  Probably goes back to the whole "you choose which you live in" comment I made.  I mean, I wouldn't even want Heaven to be better, if it did exist.  Highs need lows. 

Yeah. I find that as long as you don't judge others and treat them as you would like to be treated yourself, life is pretty great.

[The Big Train]

You know PW is pissed when it's just normal text

[PoetWarrior]

There is no afterlife.  Heaven and Hell are both right here.  You choose which you live in by your actions.

Yes!

If this crap life is all we have to look forward to then we have it pretty rough.

I disagree. Life is pretty great.  Probably goes back to the whole "you choose which you live in" comment I made.  I mean, I wouldn't even want Heaven to be better, if it did exist.  Highs need lows.

Pretty great is not good enough for me. And what about the millions / billions who would say their life was not pretty great. What are they doing wrong?

Yeah, no one wants perfection. How disappointing.

[catastrophe]

Low expectations typically do make people happier.

[CNS]

There is no afterlife.  Heaven and Hell are both right here.  You choose which you live in by your actions.

Yes!

If this crap life is all we have to look forward to then we have it pretty rough.

I disagree. Life is pretty great.  Probably goes back to the whole "you choose which you live in" comment I made.  I mean, I wouldn't even want Heaven to be better, if it did exist.  Highs need lows.

Pretty great is not good enough for me.

Weird.

[The Big Train]

Delayed gratification that never arrives would be terrible if you could experience it after you die

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't sin all that often. Certainly not constantly every day.

But surely you don't think of yourself as a "good" person.

I surely do. And I'm Christian, too!

This gets us back to our original question. What makes you good? Tell us.

I've not found a single person with a bad thing to say about me. Also, I'm on the record in some other thread that I would not kill baby Hitler.

[CNS]

Delayed gratification that never arrives would be terrible if you could experience it after you die

The only good news is that, since there isn't an afterlife, they will never realize their waste.

[The Big Train]

Delayed gratification that never arrives would be terrible if you could experience it after you die

The only good news is that, since there isn't an afterlife, they will never realize their waste.

That silver lining makes me feel better about it

[Rage Against the McKee]

Delayed gratification that never arrives would be terrible if you could experience it after you die

The only good news is that, since there isn't an afterlife, they will never realize their waste.

It's not really waste, though. They get plenty of gratification on earth, regardless of what happens after.

[CNS]

Delayed gratification that never arrives would be terrible if you could experience it after you die

The only good news is that, since there isn't an afterlife, they will never realize their waste.

It's not really waste, though. They get plenty of gratification on earth, regardless of what happens after.

IDK, it sounds like PW isn't. 

[Dugout DickStone]

So who decided what actually went in the Bible?

[renocat]

There are.two types.of sins.  Sins of commission, the things I did.  And sins of ommission, things we should have done but didn't do.  Throw in just thinking about things wrongly is sin.  And all sins in the eyes of the Father makes.us appear as dirty rags, dov barf, pig grunt etc to him.  Christ died on the cross as a substitute for our sin riddled worthless carcasses. He was punished for our sins.  When we believe in Jesus we.are his children and.the.Father sees the pure holiness of Christ.

[Dugout DickStone]

There are.two types.of sins.  Sins of commission, the things I did.  And sins of ommission, things we should have done but didn't do.  Throw in just thinking about things wrongly is sin.  And all sins in the eyes of the Father makes.us appear as dirty rags, dov barf, pig grunt etc to him.  Christ died on the cross as a substitute for our sin riddled worthless carcasses. He was punished for our sins.  When we believe in Jesus we.are his children and.the.Father sees the pure holiness of Christ.

So much love

[CNS]

That's pretty messed up, Reno.  I want no part of that.  That is an abusive relationship.

[Rage Against the McKee]

There is no afterlife.  Heaven and Hell are both right here.  You choose which you live in by your actions.

Yes!

If this crap life is all we have to look forward to then we have it pretty rough.

I disagree. Life is pretty great.  Probably goes back to the whole "you choose which you live in" comment I made.  I mean, I wouldn't even want Heaven to be better, if it did exist.  Highs need lows.

Pretty great is not good enough for me. And what about the millions / billions who would say their life was not pretty great. What are they doing wrong?

Yeah, no one wants perfection. How disappointing.

This is the line of thought that created the Nazis, fwiw.

[catastrophe]

So who decided what actually went in the Bible?

OT is almost all the Jews. For NT, I think someone posted a link, but it is one (or more) of the "counsels." Nicea maybe?

[Dugout DickStone]

How do I know they got the right parts in and left out the right stuff?

[steve dave]

the entire basis of most current form christian religions is that you are a piece of trash who deserves to burn in eternal hellfire despite there being almost nothing in the actual bible that says that.

that's why hell was thrown in later

Thank you both for your expert testimony.

 

[star seed 7]

There is no afterlife.  Heaven and Hell are both right here.  You choose which you live in by your actions.

Yes!

If this crap life is all we have to look forward to then we have it pretty rough.

Sounds like you choose to live in hell

[renocat]

Hell is really the eternal separation from Christ and his new world of holiness where peace, goodness and love is and no evil or sickness exits.  Hell will be the opposite, pure evil will exist.  In our current world goodness does exist so life doesn't seem like its.too bad, but take the goodness from the equation and it ain't pretty.  Read chapters 19-21 of Revelations.  My church teaches we are.both saint and.sinner on earth as a Christian.