Author Topic: The Bible (Read 28771 times)

420seriouscat69 · « **on:** February 17, 2016, 09:49:16 AM »

Hmmmmm

@poetwarrior

http://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news/665/1500-Year-Old-Bible-Found-In-Turkey-Is-Stirring-Up-Controversy-About-Christianity#MtpXBmi0eMTUMBjW.01

Thoughts?

CHONGS · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:50:52 AM »

why don't you offer your thoughts?

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:56:56 AM »

Because I'm not as vocal about religion as many others are on this board, chings.

ednksu · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:57:46 AM »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2105714/Secret-14million-Bible-Jesus-predicts-coming-Prophet-Muhammad-unearthed-Turkey.html

CNS · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2016, 10:00:57 AM »

Post the article(actual book scans), Turkey!

star seed 7 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2016, 10:32:20 AM »

The Big Train · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2016, 11:03:00 AM »

It's hilarious this is actually news

catastrophe · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2016, 11:07:48 AM »

Anyone who has even remotely studied the origins of the Bible knows the scriptures were hand picked. How could this be controversial? It's not like early Christians went all Joseph Smith and just found the New Testament buried in their back yards.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2016, 11:15:03 AM »

Quote from: catastrophe on February 17, 2016, 11:07:48 AM

Anyone who has even remotely studied the origins of the Bible knows the scriptures were hand picked. How could this be controversial? It's not like early Christians went all Joseph Smith and just found the New Testament buried in their back yards.

I think a lot of christians don't know they left out a bunch of gospels

catastrophe · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2016, 11:23:50 AM »

"Left out" is a generous term. If I decided to write a new chapter for a book on American history just based on my beliefs but the editors decide not to include it, I'm not sure I'd say it was left out.

I think most Christians view these gospels as fan fiction (though more accurately, Gnostic theology).

star seed 7 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2016, 11:24:38 AM »

See what I mean

Cire · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2016, 11:32:46 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

PoetWarrior · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2016, 12:09:43 PM »

Absolutely no thoughts.

For those curious, if I knew nothing about the origin of the Bible, I would still know that everything it says about me and life has turned out to be true, so I have no choice but to believe it.

'taterblast · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2016, 12:13:43 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 17, 2016, 12:09:43 PM

For those curious, if I knew nothing about the origin of the Bible, I would still know that everything it says about me and life has turned out to be true, so I have no choice but to believe it.

what about the shellfish thing?

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Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you.

you telling me you hate shrimp and lobster?

The Big Train · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2016, 12:26:39 PM »

So can you turn water to wine IRL?

catastrophe · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2016, 12:35:31 PM »

Quote from: 'taterblast on February 17, 2016, 12:13:43 PM

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Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you.

you telling me you hate shrimp and lobster?

Laws for Jews.

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Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

Laws for Christians.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:29:36 PM »

The fact that ancient texts are unearthed with differing accounts of who Jesus was is not really surprising or noteworthy at this point. There are many MANY historical texts and accounts from that time. And is it surprising that those who compiled the bible left books out that say Jesus wasn't the son of God, but merely a man, were left out? The Christians who cannonized the bible believed Jesus was God and worship him as such, so yeah a book that says he was just a prophet is not going to make the cut of what they define as holy scripture.

These books that show up shouldn't be viewed as some "Oh No! This disproves the gospel! The book of Luke is full of baloney!" but more like "Looks like people have disagreed on who Jesus is for thousands of years. Interesting to see how certain scholars and historians took the time to document those ideas."

michigancat · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:42:08 PM »

I just can't trust anything in a book that old. I mean, English dictionaries didn't even really exist until like 1600 years after Christ. Inevitably, it's basically fiction no matter what's included.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:43:47 PM »

English is relatively young compared to Hebrew or Greek michigancat.

michigancat · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:48:25 PM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on February 17, 2016, 09:43:47 PM

English is relatively young compared to Hebrew or Greek michigancat.

I know and early English was TERRIBLE. Can't even imagine how bad Aramic was two thousand years ago.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2016, 09:50:53 PM »

See Chings, this is why I had no comment. I rather hear from the scholars. Cf3 is a good man, leads a good life, & I appreciate his insight on this.

Cire · « **Reply #21 on:** February 18, 2016, 05:53:49 AM »

High probability it's a fake too

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8manpick · « **Reply #22 on:** February 18, 2016, 06:27:54 AM »

Quote from: Cire on February 18, 2016, 05:53:49 AM

High probability it's a fake too

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The bible?

The Big Train · « **Reply #23 on:** February 18, 2016, 07:12:18 AM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on February 17, 2016, 09:50:53 PM

See Chings, this is why I had no comment. I rather hear from the scholars. Cf3 is a good man, leads a good life, & I appreciate his insight on this.

Being religious or non-religious shouldn't automatically make you a good or bad person. It's who YOU are as a person, not some affiliation with or without a religion.

slobber · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2016, 07:38:13 AM »

Quote from: The Big Train on February 18, 2016, 07:12:18 AM

Quote from: WackyCat08 on February 17, 2016, 09:50:53 PM
See Chings, this is why I had no comment. I rather hear from the scholars. Cf3 is a good man, leads a good life, & I appreciate his insight on this.

Being religious or non-religious shouldn't automatically make you a good or bad person. It's who YOU are as a person, not some affiliation with or without a religion.

agree!
This is why I don't make fun of people's beliefs very often. Except racists, eff them.

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