1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...

[Mrs. Gooch]

Sigh. With all the real world evidence to the contrary, how has it come to this point that "young people" view socialism more favorably than capitalism? I blame the indoctrination of universities and public schools and just the generational dumbing down of Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/02/05/millennials-have-a-higher-opinion-of-socialism-than-of-capitalism/?utm_content=buffer2e19a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-young-democrats-love-bernie-sanders/

Thanks for that link. Synopsis: Younger voters tend to be morons who don't really know: (a) what they want, (b) what socialism means, or (c) what the candidate they're supporting really stands for. Yeah, that makes sense. Now that we don't really have a draft anymore, can we please raise the voting age to the point at which most children finally have to leave the nest and start living like a grownup? 25? I'd accept 23.

So, do people who do not live off their parents after age 18 get to vote early?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Sigh. With all the real world evidence to the contrary, how has it come to this point that "young people" view socialism more favorably than capitalism? I blame the indoctrination of universities and public schools and just the generational dumbing down of Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/02/05/millennials-have-a-higher-opinion-of-socialism-than-of-capitalism/?utm_content=buffer2e19a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-young-democrats-love-bernie-sanders/

Thanks for that link. Synopsis: Younger voters tend to be morons who don't really know: (a) what they want, (b) what socialism means, or (c) what the candidate they're supporting really stands for. Yeah, that makes sense. Now that we don't really have a draft anymore, can we please raise the voting age to the point at which most children finally have to leave the nest and start living like a grownup? 25? I'd accept 23.

So, do people who do not live off their parents after age 18 get to vote early?

They should, but that seems pretty tough to administer. There are probably 16yos who are mature enough to vote, too, but we set a minimum age. My point is that the minimum age ought to be raised.

[CNS]

Taxation without representation.  That's what we need more of! 

[star seed 7]

Institute a maximum voting age of 55

[DQ12]

Some of Ron Paul's politics appealed to me, some didn't.  Overall, I preferred him to any other candidate in '12.

I get Bernie's appeal and I think it's disingenuous to say you do not understand it.  You may disagree with his politics (I certainly do), but dismissing his support as uninformed is a little hypocritical -- it's not like the GOP's base is comprised of rocket surgeons (see: trump).

[star seed 7]

Old people have no rough ridin' clue what's going on and don't care about the future anyway

[CNS]

Old people have no rough ridin' clue what's going on and don't care about the future anyway

Also, super scared of everything.

[catastrophe]

Sanders is popular for the same reason Trump is. They both feed off the fact that people are pissed off with the current system. Both would break the mold of POTUS, but at least with Bernie I'm not afraid he would actually run the county into the ground in a 4-year term. Most of Bernie's crazy ideas require lots of help from congress; he is unlikely to get too far off the rails.

Young voters certainly feel more entitled than earlier generations (what do you expect when you tell every single kid they can be whatever they want), but they are probably not wrong in their belief that if things don't change soon the next 20-40 years could be pretty crappy.

I would personally like Bernie to be prez just so he can push through one or two proposals to break up the mega banks and increase taxes on the super wealthy.

[Emo EMAW]

Kinda curious how Trump is more capable than Bernie of running the same country into the ground?

[CNS]

Kinda curious how Trump is more capable than Bernie of running the same country into the ground?

Pubs have both houses now.

[Emo EMAW]

Kinda curious how Trump is more capable than Bernie of running the same country into the ground?

Pubs have both houses now.

And yet Obama has been perfectly capable.

[CNS]

Kinda curious how Trump is more capable than Bernie of running the same country into the ground?

Pubs have both houses now.

And yet Obama has been perfectly capable.

Good grief. 

How so?

[sys]

so he can push through one or two proposals to break up the mega banks.

how and why do you think this would benefit the country?

[mocat]

Kinda curious how Trump is more capable than Bernie of running the same country into the ground?

Pubs have both houses now.

And yet Obama has been perfectly capable.

 

[Emo EMAW]

Kinda curious how Trump is more capable than Bernie of running the same country into the ground?

Pubs have both houses now.

And yet Obama has been perfectly capable.

Good grief. 

How so?

They gots gay people scissoring each other and aborting their bastard babies with Obamacare money!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Kinda curious how Trump is more capable than Bernie of running the same country into the ground?

Pubs have both houses now.

And yet Obama has been perfectly capable.

Good grief. 

How so?

Let's see... Successfully doubled the national debt from 10 to 20 trillion (that is simply amazing). Rammed through Obamacare. Now regulating CO2 in addition to actual pollution, driving up cost of electricity. Blocked Keystone pipeline based purely on AGW ideology, costing tens of thousands of construction jobs. Effectively refusing to enforce borders, importing poverty by the millions. Economy has created about 9 million jobs under Obama's presidency - but the population has grown by about 15 million. Labor force participation at lowest level in 40 years. Middle east even more mumped up than usual (and that's really saying something). Negotiated a "deal" with Iran to unfreeze hundreds of billions of dollars while virtually assuring their continued development of nuclear weapons.

That's just off the top of my head.

And yes, Bernie could absolutely make this even worse if he tries to implement his redistributive policies.

[star seed 7]

 

[CNS]

Congress manages the money.

Bunch of party/team talking points

Bunch of party/team talking points

Bunch of party/team talking points

Employment is under 5%

Bunch of party/team talking points

Predicting future with less info than those who brokered the deal

Does that cover everything?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Congress manages the money.

Bunch of party/team talking points

Bunch of party/team talking points

Bunch of party/team talking points

Employment is under 5%

Bunch of party/team talking points

Predicting future with less info than those who brokered the deal

Does that cover everything?

Amazing. I'll just focus on one of these for now. How, exactly, has the "unemployment rate" dropped to 5% if we have created 6 million fewer jobs than the population growth? Hint, look to what I said about labor force participation rate.

[CNS]

All of the news media whores are all "reporting" that the unemployment rate is 4.9% as of this week.  I have no clue if they were blackmailed or not, though.

[Emo EMAW]

 

[catastrophe]

so he can push through one or two proposals to break up the mega banks.

how and why do you think this would benefit the country?

When a private bank is "too big to fail," it means that the executives have very little accountability in what they do with other folks' money. If they do well, they give themselves ridiculous bonuses. If they screw up, it causes enough of a national crisis that the government has to prop them back up.

It is actually more of a capitalist idea than a socialist one IMO because it is pro competition.

[catastrophe]

Democrats do a great job of lowering unemployment because they invariably increase government jobs.

[gatoveintisiete]

All of the news media whores are all "reporting" that the unemployment rate is 4.9% as of this week.  I have no clue if they were blackmailed or not, though.

Are you disengenuously playing team politics pointing out a 4.9% unemployment number that is bastardized by politicians and does not reflect our employment situation accurately, or are you just stupid?

[CNS]

Yep, I am sure that the unemployment rate dropped from around 10% to around 5% because govt jobs.