1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...

[chuckjames]

Ok..since I finally got you to admit something might be bad for a human, a company that dumps lead into a river upstream to produce their awesome lead products, doesn't owe the people downstream anything?

The people downstream need to buy ammo.

So basically you're in favor of a Hobbsian type society, where life is brutish, nasty, and short?

[Ptolemy]

So basically you're in favor of a Hobbsian type society, where life is brutish, nasty, and short?

No. The world in which I reside has life becoming gradually less brutal, nasty and short. But the free market is the catalyst for it, not government.

We created government, it is up to us as its parent to control it. 

[chuckjames]

So basically you're in favor of a Hobbsian type society, where life is brutish, nasty, and short?

No. The world in which I reside has life becoming gradually less brutal, nasty and short. But the free market is the catalyst for it, not government.

We created government, it is up to us as its parent to control it.

So you don't believe in any government, just the free market?

[Ptolemy]

So you don't believe in any government, just the free market?

Did I say kill it, or control it?

[chuckjames]

So you don't believe in any government, just the free market?

Did I say kill it, or control it?

I'm just trying to gage the amount of government you find acceptable.

[CNS]

Wheels falling off this sock.

[chuckjames]

He had a good run. Glad he was outed today.

[Ptolemy]

I'm just trying to gage the amount of government you find acceptable.

Control the borders, protect US interests abroad, maintain the interstate highway system...that's about it.

[star seed 7]

why shouldn't the states control their highways and borders?

[Ptolemy]

why shouldn't the states control their highways and borders?

The states DO control their borders and roads and highways within their borders.(??)

[chuckjames]

I'm just trying to gage the amount of government you find acceptable.

Control the borders, protect US interests abroad, maintain the interstate highway system...that's about it.

So the government is good enough to build and maintain the interstate highway system? But nothing else?

[star seed 7]

why shouldn't the states control their highways and borders?

The states DO control their borders and roads and highways within their borders.(??)

about time kansas put up a fence to keep out okies

[star seed 7]

really shouldn't all government just be at the city level?  outside the city limits should be wild wild west imo

[star seed 7]

but when you really think about it, cities can be so big and what's right for the east side might not be right for the west side so all government probably should just be left up to neighborhood associations

[Ptolemy]

So the government is good enough to build and maintain the interstate highway system? But nothing else?

Actually, government doesn't build anything. They administer the contracts and the private sector builds it.

[chuckjames]

 

but when you really think about it, cities can be so big and what's right for the east side might not be right for the west side so all government probably should just be left up to neighborhood associations

And if another neighborhood poisons the river with lead you go fight them.

[star seed 7]

but when you really think about it, all of us have had that "one" neighbor and obviously he's totally unable to govern our neighborhood effectively so i'm just going to go ahead and say each property owner gets to set all laws pertaining to their property. 

[chuckjames]

So the government is good enough to build and maintain the interstate highway system? But nothing else?

Actually, government doesn't build anything. They administer the contracts and the private sector builds it.

Yea you're right. The granting of government contracts is totally free market based, and not picking winners and losers.

[star seed 7]

but when you really think about it, all of us have had that "one" neighbor and obviously he's totally unable to govern our neighborhood effectively so i'm just going to go ahead and say each property owner gets to set all laws pertaining to their property.

finally, peace and harmony 

[star seed 7]

should we contract out the military?  probably get better soldiers if they aren't government employees.

[chuckjames]

 

should we contract out the military?  probably get better soldiers if they aren't government employees.

That would be picking winners and losers tho.

[star seed 7]

thinking back to that sovereign house thing, what if your wife is being a total bitch and dictator and what not?  just shoot her in the face?

[star seed 7]

warning shot in the shoulder?

[sys]

thinking back to that sovereign house thing, what if your wife is being a total bitch and dictator and what not?  just shoot her in the face?

would depend on the laws enacted and enforced in that sovereign property. 

[star seed 7]

thinking back to that sovereign house thing, what if your wife is being a total bitch and dictator and what not?  just shoot her in the face?

would depend on the laws enacted and enforced in that sovereign property.

tyranny and whatnot tho