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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2016, 09:05:05 AM »
I agree with Bernie on some things. He's absolutely right, for example, that rape and sexual assault are police matters, and only police matters, whether they occur in a dark alley or a college campus, and universities are denying due process to the accused.

He's also right that we have too much government corruption and crony capitalism. He's right that Obamacare is a disaster. Unfortunately, this is where Bern goes off the rails. These problems are created by the government, but his solution is... more government. That's a serious disconnect. We don't need more socialism in the United States.

But I do appreciate that at least he seems to be honest about his beliefs, and he doesn't appear to be a felon.
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2016, 09:10:08 AM »
I agree with him that campaign finance is probably one of top two or three things ruining our country's political system right now.

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2016, 09:12:14 AM »
Actually we could use a lot more socialism in this country, we barely have any
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2016, 09:30:08 AM »
I like that he focuses on our internal problems and doesn't isis fear monger like every other candidate. I don't necessarily agree with his solutions but I appreciate that he doesn't pander to the low/medium majority voter fears.

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2016, 12:45:02 PM »
Agreed, if there's one thing that's clearly not a problem it's isis.
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2016, 12:58:08 PM »
Fsd lives in fear, how sad  :frown:
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2016, 01:00:55 PM »
I like that he focuses on our internal problems and doesn't isis fear monger like every other candidate. I don't necessarily agree with his solutions but I appreciate that he doesn't pander to the low/medium majority voter fears.

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2016, 01:05:41 PM »
Fsd lives in fear, how sad  :frown:

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2016, 01:08:12 PM »
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2016, 01:11:29 PM »
ISIS is a fantastic distraction.  Terrorism in general is. 
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2016, 01:13:32 PM »
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2016, 01:58:12 PM »
ISIS is a very overhyped danger. Is it evil? Yes.  Is it a greater threat to me than getting struck by lighting? Probably not.

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2016, 03:25:24 PM »
terrorism had like a 4,000 person head start and still could not even sniff the amount of american deaths caused by other things since 2001, like the police for example

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2016, 03:45:27 PM »
I agree with Bernie on some things. He's absolutely right, for example, that rape and sexual assault are police matters, and only police matters, whether they occur in a dark alley or a college campus, and universities are denying due process to the accused.

He's also right that we have too much government corruption and crony capitalism. He's right that Obamacare is a disaster. Unfortunately, this is where Bern goes off the rails. These problems are created by the government, but his solution is... more government. That's a serious disconnect. We don't need more socialism in the United States.

But I do appreciate that at least he seems to be honest about his beliefs, and he doesn't appear to be a felon.

I like that he focuses on our internal problems and doesn't isis fear monger like every other candidate. I don't necessarily agree with his solutions but I appreciate that he doesn't pander to the low/medium majority voter fears.

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2016, 04:36:17 PM »

terrorism had like a 4,000 person head start and still could not even sniff the amount of american deaths caused by other things since 2001, like the police for example
Yeah our reaction to terrorism is one of the biggest Chicken Little events in recent history
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2016, 04:58:09 PM »

terrorism had like a 4,000 person head start and still could not even sniff the amount of american deaths caused by other things since 2001, like the police for example
Yeah our reaction to terrorism is one of the biggest Chicken Little events in recent history

Our reaction has been one of the biggest causes of the crapshow we're in. Sunk billions into a destabilizing quagmire while getting 2000+ killed in Afghanistan and 4000+ in a lie of Iraq that has caused us to have ISIS. Let alone the stupid Department of Homeland Security, the charade of the TSA, oh and the highly intrusive Patriot act that also hasn't really done anything but be able to capture and store your dick pics.  Terrorism won in the sense we spend untold amounts of time and money to try to stop a few assholes from the middle east. Why we didn't Seal Team 6 Bin Laden from the start is beyond me. But we got to be all big and bad and start crap.
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2016, 07:06:53 PM »
When I became of voting age, Reagan was just starting his first term. The country, led by the quasi-socialist Jimmy Carter the previous 4 years was awash in stagflation: double-digit unemployment, interest rates, and recession. I wasn't very political at the time, and had liberal professors trying to shove their crap along with their lectures. But I and those I knew in school at the time had minds of our own. I couldn't wait for 1984 and the chance to re-elect Reagan. What could possibly be fair about making the higher earners pay a greater percentage of their income for government than lower earners? The top marginal tax rate in Carter's years was 70%! What possible incentive is there to be productive and innovative if government takes 70% of it all? After Reagan's second term was over, the top rate was reduced to 28%. History was clear about the economic boom that results from such free market actions. The free market is why the U.S. economy leads the world.

What I don't get is how the youth of this era can give up all chance they have of earning things on their own and hitch their futures to a socialist that believes government is entitled to 90% of what you earn. Look beyond all the crony-capitalist crap that I can actually agree with most on and get back to the basis....socialism runs on envy. If someone else made more money than you, they need to be punished by having most of it taken from them (theft) and redistributed to those that didn't earn it.

Can any of you young people explain this?  Is it as simple as, "Hey I don't have to work as hard if I can have Bernie take it from someone else!"

What is it?

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2016, 07:21:03 PM »
You are too old to vote imo

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2016, 07:27:31 PM »
When I became of voting age, Reagan was just starting his first term. The country, led by the quasi-socialist Jimmy Carter the previous 4 years was awash in stagflation: double-digit unemployment, interest rates, and recession. I wasn't very political at the time, and had liberal professors trying to shove their crap along with their lectures. But I and those I knew in school at the time had minds of our own. I couldn't wait for 1984 and the chance to re-elect Reagan. What could possibly be fair about making the higher earners pay a greater percentage of their income for government than lower earners? The top marginal tax rate in Carter's years was 70%! What possible incentive is there to be productive and innovative if government takes 70% of it all? After Reagan's second term was over, the top rate was reduced to 28%. History was clear about the economic boom that results from such free market actions. The free market is why the U.S. economy leads the world.

What I don't get is how the youth of this era can give up all chance they have of earning things on their own and hitch their futures to a socialist that believes government is entitled to 90% of what you earn. Look beyond all the crony-capitalist crap that I can actually agree with most on and get back to the basis....socialism runs on envy. If someone else made more money than you, they need to be punished by having most of it taken from them (theft) and redistributed to those that didn't earn it.

Can any of you young people explain this?  Is it as simple as, "Hey I don't have to work as hard if I can have Bernie take it from someone else!"

What is it?

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2016, 07:30:32 PM »
get out of here dad :curse:

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2016, 07:56:54 PM »
get out of here dad :curse:

I'm guessing that means, no, you can't explain it.

Makes perfect sense given the discussion with a recent Chemical Engg grad I related in another thread that was unaware that man only produces 3% of all the planet's atmospheric carbon dioxide. 

I fear for mankind's future.

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #46 on: January 15, 2016, 07:59:01 PM »
One day, innovation will fix how scared old people are of stuff
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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2016, 08:03:12 PM »

One day, innovation will fix how scared old people are of stuff

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2016, 11:28:43 PM »

lib who wants to give away 90% of his paycheck and also sit around collecting free crap for not working outed

Actually, he wants to give away (take) 90% of MY earnings and sit around collecting someone else's earned crap for not working.

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Re: 1, 2, Bernie's coming for you...
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2016, 11:34:49 PM »
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