Gary Johnson

[sonofdaxjones]

Those of you who think voting for this kook is an intelligent, informed decision; please explain this

Too many unnecessary laws leads to too many in prison. (Jan 2016)
Vetoed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. (Aug 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

Yes, because in the U.S. legislative process on both a national and state level there's never any tack-on amendments and such that force vetoes.     

BTW I'm not voting for Johnson because he's basically a "throw the gates" open and let everyone in the country and don't bother checking out who they are, but then again I'm a crazy "racist" who wants to know who is coming into our country (which somehow got turned into not letting anyone in at all in some sort of crazy whack-a-doodle liberal non reality).

This feels like a lot of explaining

If I say it 50 more times, you may have a point.

[MakeItRain]

Why, in your mind, do you think liberals don't want any immigration laws our reform? This is a test of if you can actually muster a somewhat salient, thought provoking answer about anything beyond "lol," "sad," or some variant of "I know you are but what am I."

[MakeItRain]

Those of you who think voting for this kook is an intelligent, informed decision; please explain this

Too many unnecessary laws leads to too many in prison. (Jan 2016)
Vetoed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. (Aug 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

Yes, because in the U.S. legislative process on both a national and state level there's never any tack-on amendments and such that force vetoes.     

BTW I'm not voting for Johnson because he's basically a "throw the gates" open and let everyone in the country and don't bother checking out who they are, but then again I'm a crazy "racist" who wants to know who is coming into our country (which somehow got turned into not letting anyone in at all in some sort of crazy whack-a-doodle liberal non reality).

This feels like a lot of explaining

If I say it 50 more times, you may have a point.

Dax never ever repeats himself. In no way shape or form is the Hillary Clinton thread comprised of like 10 pages of the exact same dax post.

[sonofdaxjones]

Those of you who think voting for this kook is an intelligent, informed decision; please explain this

Too many unnecessary laws leads to too many in prison. (Jan 2016)
Vetoed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. (Aug 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

Yes, because in the U.S. legislative process on both a national and state level there's never any tack-on amendments and such that force vetoes.     

BTW I'm not voting for Johnson because he's basically a "throw the gates" open and let everyone in the country and don't bother checking out who they are, but then again I'm a crazy "racist" who wants to know who is coming into our country (which somehow got turned into not letting anyone in at all in some sort of crazy whack-a-doodle liberal non reality).

This feels like a lot of explaining

If I say it 50 more times, you may have a point.

Dax never ever repeats himself. In no way shape or form is the Hillary Clinton thread comprised of like 10 pages of the exact same dax post.

I'v never said I don't repeat myself.   But that's not over explaining.

[star seed 7]

Those of you who think voting for this kook is an intelligent, informed decision; please explain this

Too many unnecessary laws leads to too many in prison. (Jan 2016)
Vetoed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. (Aug 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

Yes, because in the U.S. legislative process on both a national and state level there's never any tack-on amendments and such that force vetoes.     

BTW I'm not voting for Johnson because he's basically a "throw the gates" open and let everyone in the country and don't bother checking out who they are, but then again I'm a crazy "racist" who wants to know who is coming into our country (which somehow got turned into not letting anyone in at all in some sort of crazy whack-a-doodle liberal non reality).

This feels like a lot of explaining

If I say it 50 more times, you may have a point.

Dax never ever repeats himself. In no way shape or form is the Hillary Clinton thread comprised of like 10 pages of the exact same dax post.

I'v never said I don't repeat myself.   But that's not over explaining.

This fells like explaining too fyi

[sonofdaxjones]

Those of you who think voting for this kook is an intelligent, informed decision; please explain this

Too many unnecessary laws leads to too many in prison. (Jan 2016)
Vetoed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. (Aug 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

Yes, because in the U.S. legislative process on both a national and state level there's never any tack-on amendments and such that force vetoes.     

BTW I'm not voting for Johnson because he's basically a "throw the gates" open and let everyone in the country and don't bother checking out who they are, but then again I'm a crazy "racist" who wants to know who is coming into our country (which somehow got turned into not letting anyone in at all in some sort of crazy whack-a-doodle liberal non reality).

This feels like a lot of explaining

If I say it 50 more times, you may have a point.

Dax never ever repeats himself. In no way shape or form is the Hillary Clinton thread comprised of like 10 pages of the exact same dax post.

I'v never said I don't repeat myself.   But that's not over explaining.

This fells like explaining too fyi

Lib, MIR doesn't need your help, he needs help, lots of it, but not your kind of help.   Thanks, tho

[mocat]

Why, in your mind, do you think liberals don't want any immigration laws our reform? This is a test of if you can actually muster a somewhat salient, thought provoking answer about anything beyond "lol," "sad," or some variant of "I know you are but what am I."

dax 

[catastrophe]

Those of you who think voting for this kook is an intelligent, informed decision; please explain this

Too many unnecessary laws leads to too many in prison. (Jan 2016)
Vetoed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. (Aug 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

These are not contradictory positions. First of all, one is a general principle whereas the other is a response to a specific piece of legislation (which conceivably could be riddled with other crap).

Most reasonable people agree with the first, typically with reference to the ridiculous criminalization of marijuana and mandatory minimums on nonviolent crimes.

The second depends on who is getting released. If it is people other than the ones convicted on nonviolent drug offenses it makes some sense. He also could have done it as a way of saying "no way guys, you need to fix the problem on the front end instead of just planning on having an escape hatch every so often when your overcriminalization bites you in the ass."

[MakeItRain]

Releasing prisoners due to overcrowding is a good combo with overcriminalization or mandatory sentencing. That way prisons can operate towards their maximum capacity and make the most profits, it's just good business guys.

His support of for profit prisons make my top 10 list of things deplorable about Gary Johnson.

[MakeItRain]

Those of you who think voting for this kook is an intelligent, informed decision; please explain this

Too many unnecessary laws leads to too many in prison. (Jan 2016)
Vetoed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. (Aug 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm

These are not contradictory positions. First of all, one is a general principle whereas the other is a response to a specific piece of legislation (which conceivably could be riddled with other crap).

Most reasonable people agree with the first, typically with reference to the ridiculous criminalization of marijuana and mandatory minimums on nonviolent crimes.

The second depends on who is getting released. If it is people other than the ones convicted on nonviolent drug offenses it makes some sense. He also could have done it as a way of saying "no way guys, you need to fix the problem on the front end instead of just planning on having an escape hatch every so often when your overcriminalization bites you in the ass."

Naw man, he's just a weirdo kook who has flimsy explanations for some of his contradictory opinions.

As governor, a highly-publicized bill was coming through the legislature, which would have allowed early release of prisoners due to overcrowding. When the bill passed, I vetoed it.
Some representatives (including a few who were potential allies for me) were outraged because it made them look soft on criminals.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I'm not feelin' the Johnson.

[catastrophe]

Why would a for profit prison be incentivized any different than a state run prison when it comes to keeping prisons full to maximize jobs? My bigger concern would be prison conditions since the easiest way to maximize profits is by lowering costs. However, it cuts both ways because state run prisons can be even more crippled by crappy budgeting from the state. At least the state can impose minimum standards and sue private prisons that don't abide by them.

[sys]

Why would a for profit prison be incentivized any different than a state run prison when it comes to keeping prisons full to maximize jobs?

with govt prisons, labor is incentivized to keep prisons full.  with for profit prisons, both labor and owners are incentivized.  but with both, taxpayers ultimately fund everything, and have the only real control on prison costs.

[sys]

His support of for profit prisons make my top 10 list of things deplorable about Gary Johnson.

interesting article (long).

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/cca-private-prisons-corrections-corporation-inmates-investigation-bauer

[eastcat]

TED is the worst.

NPR is bad. It's a really sad attempt at recreating the BBC's talk show news. It just doesn't work without the accents.

[eastcat]

Try going from the BBC world service to the diane rehm show. It's horrendous.

[puniraptor]

[Trim]

I just saw this guy for the first time on the last nightly show.  He's kind of #oscar awkward.

[CNS]

Kinda.  However, he isn't following Frank Martin and an E8 run.

[Trim]

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/av3zvj/the-nightly-show-with-larry-wilmore-gary-johnson-shares-his-libertarian-vision

[sonofdaxjones]

Big shout out to Bill and Hillary for their crime bill that ensured well stocked prisons.

[catastrophe]

Just donated!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Just donated!

 

[MakeItRain]

http://rare.us/story/gary-johnson-gave-the-perfect-answer-to-the-problem-of-police-brutality-in-black-communities/

[gatoveintisiete]

http://rare.us/story/gary-johnson-gave-the-perfect-answer-to-the-problem-of-police-brutality-in-black-communities/

This guy should be voted for