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[Emo EMAW]

Why in the eff would the federal government give a half a million dollar loan to someone who owed them a million dollars?  My eff people.

It was a loan to the business

The same business that was leasing the grazing rights?

Nope, the third leg of redneck biz(other than ranching and guns), a truck maint company.

I mean, c'mon.  This is the same government that we want doing checks to see if we are or not letting terrorists into our country?

Again, this was the son's biz and the son's loan.  All before the son decided that he could do whatevs he felt like along with a bunch of other unprepared losers.

If the loan was made to the son but it was the dad that owed the grazing fees, then why is ol' Dugout so enraged?

Because the son is also some phony patriot who wants the gov out of his business (except when he wants to have taxpayers subsidize below market loans to him)

I get you now. 

[MakeItRain]

Emo, I'm confused. Do you want less government or do you want so much government that every loose tie to every business loan taken out is so thoroughly investigated that family members and those family members business are all checked to see if they owe someone money somewhere? Are we talking about fewer government workers, going 35 hours a day for 16 days a week? Help me out here bub.

[Emo EMAW]

If the only lever you have gets you either more or less govt then it's a waste of a lever.

[CNS]

Well, in this election, that lever is also getting you alien stuff or illegal alien stuff.

[Dugout DickStone]

http://usuncut.com/news/oregon-standoff-member-caught-drinking-donation-money/

Nothing says Live Free of Die like binging in a hotel off of handouts

[CNS]

Need to beat them like we did many nat americans.  Give them a bunch of alcohol and end it once they all are super Bud Lit.

[ednksu]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

[Emo EMAW]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

[ednksu]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

Better this than Wako [sic] or Ruby Ridge.

[Dugout DickStone]

These guys are a south park episode. 

[CNS]

You guys know that the next Bundy go 'round won't be BYOB.  Can't trust the guys with the low wages.  Better that Bundy provides a stocked bar for them to limit the oppy of something like this happening again. 

Do you guys think the Bundys get together and do a post mortem on these things?  Put together a lessons learned list?  Get a little better every siege?

[Emo EMAW]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

Better this than Wako [sic] or Ruby Ridge.

He's just passing the buck to the next president to deal with.  Albeit in the first instance it should have been dealt with a long time ago.  Anyway, I think these guys are only emboldened and we'll see more of this stuff.  And they'll have enough snacks next time.

[ednksu]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

Better this than Wako [sic] or Ruby Ridge.

He's just passing the buck to the next president to deal with.  Albeit in the first instance it should have been dealt with a long time ago.  Anyway, I think these guys are only emboldened and we'll see more of this stuff.  And they'll have enough snacks next time.

I don't think we'll see quite as much.  The mere existence of Obama's administration is a driving cause.  I don't think Hil Rod gets this much emotion from these idiots.

[Dugout DickStone]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

Better this than Wako [sic] or Ruby Ridge.

He's just passing the buck to the next president to deal with.  Albeit in the first instance it should have been dealt with a long time ago.  Anyway, I think these guys are only emboldened and we'll see more of this stuff.  And they'll have enough snacks next time.

Odds that very soon one these ends up with one derelict shooting another and gov doesn't lift a finger?

[CNS]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

Better this than Wako [sic] or Ruby Ridge.

He's just passing the buck to the next president to deal with.  Albeit in the first instance it should have been dealt with a long time ago.  Anyway, I think these guys are only emboldened and we'll see more of this stuff.  And they'll have enough snacks next time.

Not worried.  We can just set up a Wiley Coyote level trap(complete with box held up by stick,stick tied to a rope, beer under box) and catch these guys no prob. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://usuncut.com/news/oregon-standoff-member-caught-drinking-donation-money/

Nothing says Live Free of Die like binging in a hotel off of handouts

Why are these people being allowed to leave the building and then come back?

[Dugout DickStone]

http://usuncut.com/news/oregon-standoff-member-caught-drinking-donation-money/

Nothing says Live Free of Die like binging in a hotel off of handouts

Why are these people being allowed to leave the building and then come back?

I thought that was kind of odd too. 

BLM Agent:  Where you off to Burt?
Loser Burt:  headed into town to get trashed on schnapps, eat at the waffle house and pan handle for some change on the corner.  I might get a Roku too, the fellas want to watch Making a Murderer.
BLM Agent:  I'd go Google Chromecast instead.  Get me a Big Gulp please, here is a $5, keep the change

[Emo EMAW]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

Better this than Wako [sic] or Ruby Ridge.

He's just passing the buck to the next president to deal with.  Albeit in the first instance it should have been dealt with a long time ago.  Anyway, I think these guys are only emboldened and we'll see more of this stuff.  And they'll have enough snacks next time.

Odds that very soon one these ends up with one derelict shooting another and gov doesn't lift a finger?

I don't know, probably pretty low.  I am surprised at the lack of violent conflict so far in either instance. 

[michigancat]

http://usuncut.com/news/oregon-standoff-member-caught-drinking-donation-money/

Nothing says Live Free of Die like binging in a hotel off of handouts

Why are these people being allowed to leave the building and then come back?

my guess is because absolutely no one needs that building for anything. It's not like they're selling iphones there or something.

[Dugout DickStone]

Man Obama is playing this perfectly letting them self-destruct.

Really mumped up the first one.

Better this than Wako [sic] or Ruby Ridge.

He's just passing the buck to the next president to deal with.  Albeit in the first instance it should have been dealt with a long time ago.  Anyway, I think these guys are only emboldened and we'll see more of this stuff.  And they'll have enough snacks next time.

Odds that very soon one these ends up with one derelict shooting another and gov doesn't lift a finger?

I don't know, probably pretty low.  I am surprised at the lack of violent conflict so far in either instance.

I meant shoot each other because they are blackout drunk.

[renocat]

These bundyholes are goofed in the head, and their nut cousins in arms are showing up.  I think a driving force behind all of this is white poverty caused by the take away of the ability to use land for income producing enterprises.  Land is being closed to man use and going.to birds, fishies and squirrel and  earthers of the zodiac.  This group are poor spokesman for the cause.  People are tired of the federal government taking land from them to live off of.

[star seed 7]

Who has the fed government taken land from?

[CNS]

This land has been the govts since the Louisiana purchase, iirc. 

[renocat]

Who has the fed government taken land from?

Indians.  Escalante National Thinger in Utah.

[michigancat]

some background on the land history: http://www.psmag.com/politics-and-law/libertarian-fairy-tales-of-the-bundy-family