Author Topic: Doug Gottlieb on 810 WHB The Program with Soren Petro (Read 65589 times)

Kat Kid · « **Reply #100 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:35:11 PM »

Soren: What is the point if they lose in the first round and then go to the NIT next year?

Doug: You think Huggins did things the right way to get this thing started? They sold their soul to get things started. The guys they brought in and the fact they backed in to Frank Martin and Brad Underwood is unbelievable luck!

Soren: Frank is putting that team in the tournament and they SUCK!

Doug: Frank is not at K-State or being a head coach at that level without Bob Huggins selling his soul to get at that level. Huggins was smart enough to get Underwood who had purple in his blood and had been kicking around JC ranks and he got Martin because he had coached some high level players in Florida..

Soren: THAT IS WHAT BOB HUGGINS DOES! That is what Roy Williams and Jim Boheim and everyone else does, THAT IS WHAT WINNERS DO! They recognize other winners and put them on the bench!

Kat Kid · « **Reply #101 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:44:26 PM »

Doug: They hired oscar to do it the right way. It is the 3rd worst job in the league because of what is happening at TCU. The location is bad. Iowa State will probably get below it, but it is a grinders job a difficult job. They have done a good enough job of getting players, they just haven't done a good enough job of recruiting them. We agree that it has been disappointing, we disagree on the quality of recruiting and I think considering this league is a beast, but the losses are disappointing but the wins are really surprising. Let's see what happens.

Soren: When do the NCAA wins come? When are you not sweating the bubble? It is now oscar's and that is where they were.

Doug: Good question. If NCAA wins are what you want, he is probably not your guy. Is Coach Snyder doing a good job? How many games they win last year?

Soren: 3 years ago.

Doug: Ok.

Soren: you are barking up the wrong tree.

Doug: you are competing every 4-5 years for a league title, if he hasn't achieved that, then you are right to be disappointed but if LHC Bill Snyder, one of the legendary coaches is not competing for a league title every year, then why would we expect oscar to do it?

Soren: Here is what Snyder has done (lists off K-State records). 7 straight bowl games Doug.

Doug: I am not arguing against LHC Bill Snyder. But he hasn't won the Big 12.

Soren: oscar is .500 in the league. He is 42-41 in league.

Doug: With Frank's players was his best.

Soren: you are grabbing at straws. You can't say "at a place like Kansas State" why can't you do what some "high school coach" as you called Frank Martin, why can't you do what some humpty like him can do?

Kat Kid · « **Reply #102 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:46:57 PM »

Doug: he inherited Huggins.

Soren: he inherited one year. Frank is getting players at South Carolina. Obviously, because the players oscar won with are Frank's!

Doug: just say the same thing for Frank.

Soren: He left going to 3 straight NCAAs.

Doug: Iowa State was still down at that time.

Soren: ok

Doug: Not everything happens in a vacuum.

Soren: I'm just saying if you compare what both coaches did at the same school, in the same league oscar is worse.

sys · « **Reply #103 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:47:58 PM »

that smug little cow is twisting the knife with those underwood comments.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #104 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:49:00 PM »

It is easier to win at Kansas State than it is at the vast majority of Big 12 schools. Doug sounds like a loser here.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #105 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:50:42 PM »

Soren: $1000 a year on Frank at South Carolina vs. oscar at Kansas State record, do you want that?

Doug: I didn't think it was a groundbreaking hire when he came in. IT IS A HARD LEAGUE!

Soren: I guess they are just trying hard so you just stay the course. you're right. (sarcasm)

Doug: WHAT PROS WERE THEY GETTING?

Soren: Michael Beasley, Bill Walker.

Doug: How did they get them? Maybe because they were paying an assistant $400,000? Come on dude.

(Soren went on a mini-rant in the segment after Doug is gone explaining how nothing was ever shown to be in NCAA violation and Turgeon hired Dalonte and that every coach needs to swim in the gray to be a winner)

Kat Kid · « **Reply #106 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:51:32 PM »

Doug: They sold their souls!

Soren: It is not agains the rules to pay an assistant. Who were you going to get on your staff? Were you going to go get a bunch of scrubs?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #107 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:51:49 PM »

eff D-G

Kat Kid · « **Reply #108 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:55:07 PM »

Doug: They wouldn't be Michael Beasley, everyone knows the deal on Michael Beasley. Come on dude.

Soren: What was the deal?

Doug: You are telling me an assistant with no experience is suddenly one of the highest paid assistants in college hoops?

Soren: so you're talking about Dalonte Hill, right?

Doug: Yeah!

Soren: so what was the deal?

Doug: do I know exactly how things were done? He takes care of Beasley.

Soren: Ed Manning was on the bench at Kansas. It is how you play the game. If you don't like it, GET OUT! Ed Manning was driving a truck when Larry Brown hired him!

Doug: Was Michael Beasley good news or bad news?

Soren: GOOD NEWS FOR KANSAS STATE! And his mom moved there just like every mom is in Lawrence.

Ptolemy · « **Reply #109 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:57:02 PM »

After that interview, Petro essentially called Gottleib out for arguing with nothing in favor of Weber, all but saying out loud that Doug doesn't want to piss off Currie by opposing his coaching decision in the hopes that he will get another look when Oscar gets run. Note how Gottleib even said, "if NCAA wins are your goal, Weber's not your guy." Now THAT's a ringing endorsement. Who in the entire NCAA doesn't have winning in the NCAA tournament as a main goal?

'taterblast · « **Reply #110 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:57:35 PM »

Soren is fighting the good fight

ksupamplemousse · « **Reply #111 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:58:00 PM »

Gottliebs are family friends with the Webers. I used to wonder why DG defended oscar, but it's pretty obvious that Doug doesn't use his brain when evaluating oscar, or if he does he sure won't say what he really thinks in public.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #112 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:58:39 PM »

Soren: You cornered yourself.

Doug: I didn't corner myself!

Soren: ok.

Doug: For the record, I like Bob Huggins! He is great!

Soren: Bob Huggins is tremendous.

Doug: He was unhirable because of Cincinnati, they were lucky to not have an OJ Mayo to bring down the program.

Soren: Maybe. Maybe that was the difference between Huggins and Tim Floyd. Huggins wouldn't do whatever OJ Mayo wanted and that is why OJ Mayo went to USC. Here is what I know: K-State never went on probation with Huggins or Frank. West Virginia hasn't been on probation with Huggins and Frank hasn't had any problems at South Carolina.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #113 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:00:25 PM »

This was a resounding victory for Soren (for once).

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #114 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:01:40 PM »

Soren is v smart.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #115 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:01:49 PM »

Doug: Oklahoma State is a better job, because of location, harder to fill the arena, but you missed on that timing, so who are you going to go get if you move on oscar?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #116 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:02:39 PM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2017, 02:01:40 PM

Soren is v smart.

Just ask him.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #117 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:03:00 PM »

that is all

Doug wanted the job, and is now trolling us.

kslim · « **Reply #118 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:04:10 PM »

thanks KK!!!

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #119 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:05:18 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN(WIHUHR) on February 07, 2017, 02:02:39 PM

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2017, 02:01:40 PM
Soren is v smart.

Just ask him.

meh. i like the way he covers pretty much every team in kc.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #120 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:06:53 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on February 07, 2017, 01:49:00 PM

It is easier to win at Kansas State than it is at the vast majority of Big 12 schools. Doug sounds like a loser here.

lol. Wut? I can think of TCU and TTech and that's about it.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #121 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:06:54 PM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2017, 02:05:18 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN(WIHUHR) on February 07, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
Quote from: Cartierfor3 on February 07, 2017, 02:01:40 PM
Soren is v smart.

Just ask him.

meh. i like the way he covers pretty much every team in kc.

I think he's good and like his show most of the time.

sys · « **Reply #122 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:07:34 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on February 07, 2017, 02:01:49 PM

Doug: Oklahoma State is a better job, because of location, harder to fill the arena, but you missed on that timing, so who are you going to go get if you move on oscar?

there it is. he knew he had a winner and he built to it through the whole spot.

meow meow · « **Reply #123 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:08:41 PM »

what is better about Stillwater's location than Manhattan? If we are utilizing the direct flights to Chicago and Dallas, the location argument shouldn't be much of one if you have competent recruiters

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #124 on:** February 07, 2017, 02:09:10 PM »

The thing that annoys me is Soren thinks more highly of what K-State basketball should and could be than a big portion of our fanbase, and AD. He's the same with Mizzou. A Syracuse grad/ku fan thinks K-State can and should do better. That's refreshing.