Doug Gottlieb on 810 WHB The Program with Soren Petro

[420seriouscat69]

That's the thing with BID'rs. They have no clue who's possibly able to come in and replace oscar right now and it could still be a worse hire in the long run.

[420seriouscat69]

what is better about Stillwater's location than Manhattan?  If we are utilizing the direct flights to Chicago and Dallas, the location argument shouldn't be much of one if you have competent recruiters

Closer to Texas. The big 12's hotbed for recruiting.

[Rage Against the McKee]

It is easier to win at Kansas State than it is at the vast majority of Big 12 schools. Doug sounds like a loser here.

lol. Wut? I can think of TCU and TTech and that's about it.

It is very difficult to win at Baylor and Texas. KSU is on par with the ISU and OSU jobs, really. I think we are a better job than them, but I'm biased and you could make a reasonable argument otherwise.

[Cartierfor3]

That's the thing with BID'rs. They have no clue who's possibly able to come in and replace oscar right now and it could still be a worse hire in the long run.

any hire has inherent risk.

[Cartierfor3]

The "selling your soul" thing is ridiculous.

[420seriouscat69]

It is easier to win at Kansas State than it is at the vast majority of Big 12 schools. Doug sounds like a loser here.

lol. Wut? I can think of TCU and TTech and that's about it.

It is very difficult to win at Baylor and Texas. KSU is on par with the ISU and OSU jobs, really. I think it is a better job than them, but I'm biased and you could make a reasonable argument otherwise.

lol. Texas? Are you rough ridin' high? Also, Baylor has consistently been doing it for over a decade now. They continue to have top recruiting classes.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The "selling your soul" thing is ridiculous.

Yeah. God forbid we hire a coach with a recruiting tie.

[Cartierfor3]

They "sold their soul" for Huggins/Frank. That is completely insulting to K-State. Big boy ball is messy. Good grief Doug.

[meow meow]

what is better about Stillwater's location than Manhattan?  If we are utilizing the direct flights to Chicago and Dallas, the location argument shouldn't be much of one if you have competent recruiters

Closer to Texas. The big 12's hotbed for recruiting.

it's closer than an hour 15 minute flight to the biggest metro area in Texas? 

[420seriouscat69]

what is better about Stillwater's location than Manhattan?  If we are utilizing the direct flights to Chicago and Dallas, the location argument shouldn't be much of one if you have competent recruiters

Closer to Texas. The big 12's hotbed for recruiting.

it's closer than an hour 15 minute flight to the biggest metro area in Texas?

Spoiler alert: Not all recruits families have the $ for flying to games.

[Rage Against the McKee]

It is easier to win at Kansas State than it is at the vast majority of Big 12 schools. Doug sounds like a loser here.

lol. Wut? I can think of TCU and TTech and that's about it.

It is very difficult to win at Baylor and Texas. KSU is on par with the ISU and OSU jobs, really. I think it is a better job than them, but I'm biased and you could make a reasonable argument otherwise.

lol. Texas? Are you rough ridin' high? Also, Baylor has consistently been doing it for over a decade now. They continue to have top recruiting classes.

Texas can get just about any coach they want. Unfortunately, only one of those coaches has ever had any success there, and they fired him.

Baylor also has had all of its success under one coach.

[Kat Kid]

It is easier to win at Kansas State than it is at the vast majority of Big 12 schools. Doug sounds like a loser here.

lol. Wut? I can think of TCU and TTech and that's about it.

It is very difficult to win at Baylor and Texas. KSU is on par with the ISU and OSU jobs, really. I think it is a better job than them, but I'm biased and you could make a reasonable argument otherwise.

Texas has been to the NCAAs like 20/25 seasons.  They are a fantastic, consistently good hoops program. It may be "hard" to win there, but it is not in the same universe as ksu. Scott Drew has built Baylor in to a better program.

almost blue blood
Kansas

Tier by itself
Texas

NCAA 40%+ programs (you get fired for NCAA droughts of 4 years)
everyone else

crap
tech
tcu
both have potential to get in to consistent ncaa

[Cartierfor3]

I mean asking if Michael Beasley was bad news for K-State.... Are you freaking kidding me doug

[#LIFE]

Everyone eat their scoop of vanilla and be happy

[Cartierfor3]

[Cartierfor3]

[420seriouscat69]

Everyone eat their scoop of vanilla and be happy

I don't think anyone is doing that, but being self aware is a pretty important key too. No rough ridin' crap we all want the Frank Martin run on a consistent basis, but those weren't a walk in the park either. Especially his last two years here. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Everyone eat their scoop of vanilla and be happy

I don't think anyone is doing that, but being self aware is a pretty important key too. No rough ridin' crap we all want the Frank Martin run on a consistent basis, but those weren't a walk in the park either. Especially his last two years here.

It was nice when NCAA tournament teams were the disappointing years. That is how it should always be here.

[kslim]

I mean asking if Michael Beasley was bad news for K-State.... Are you freaking kidding me doug

he also said "his" assistants that he would have hired would have done things the right way....

did we get into trouble and im just not remembering it or what?

[Cartierfor3]

I mean asking if Michael Beasley was bad news for K-State.... Are you freaking kidding me doug

he also said "his" assistants that he would have hired would have done things the right way....

did we get into trouble and im just not remembering it or what?

people have hinted all along that the Huggins/early Frank years were shady. they probably were. that's college basketball. and if people think its squeaky clean anywhere but Kim Anderson's Mizzou Tigers they are kidding themselves. Its like watching the NFL and pretending that you don't know all the players will be sketti brained.

[sys]

that goddamn smug little cow.

[kslim]

I mean asking if Michael Beasley was bad news for K-State.... Are you freaking kidding me doug

he also said "his" assistants that he would have hired would have done things the right way....

did we get into trouble and im just not remembering it or what?

people have hinted all along that the Huggins/early Frank years were shady. they probably were. that's college basketball. and if people think its squeaky clean anywhere but Kim Anderson's Mizzou Tigers they are kidding themselves. Its like watching the NFL and pretending that you don't know all the players will be sketti brained.

right i knew about the mom situation but he asked what players has kstate had in the nba, soren told him beasley walker mcgruder ect so i was confused when he said his assistants he would have hired would do things the right way as if those guys were paid

[_33]

That's the thing with BID'rs. They have no clue who's possibly able to come in and replace oscar right now and it could still be a worse hire in the long run.

What an incredibly dumb and stupid argument.  Continue with sustained mediocrity and irrelevance because who knows the next hire might be worse.  My goodness gracious that's dumb.

[Kat Kid]

That's the thing with BID'rs. They have no clue who's possibly able to come in and replace oscar right now and it could still be a worse hire in the long run.

What an incredibly dumb and stupid argument.  Continue with sustained mediocrity and irrelevance because who knows the next hire might be worse.  My goodness gracious that's dumb.

It isn't dumb, it is cowardly.

[kslim]

i dont know how to tell people that oscar is not a good coach and we need a new one, wait yes i do. look at the results.