Author Topic: Doug Gottlieb on 810 WHB The Program with Soren Petro (Read 65465 times)

Cire · « **Reply #75 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:09:30 PM »

cliffs?

Ptolemy · « **Reply #76 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:11:03 PM »

Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 22, 2016, 01:06:25 PM

Doug was on with Petro again, talked quite a bit about the Brad, K-State, O-State situation.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=5346933

Soren's a better advocate for KState basketball than Kietzman.

As for Gottleib, most of his comment was on his own supposed candidacy for the OSU job - almost incredulous that HIS resume would be considered less attractive than Underwood's.

DQ12 · « **Reply #77 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:12:23 PM »

doug said there could be a lot of weird reasons why currie didn't make the move, including but not limited to money, brad not wanting to coach under currie, and currie's own pride in not wanting to admit a mistake. petro said those are all currie's fault, buried oscar's past and future at k-state, and basically called for currie to be fired,

Ptolemy · « **Reply #78 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:12:36 PM »

He also said what DeCoursey said earlier: Weber BETTER win.

Really, when is that ever not the goal? Sheesh!

kso_FAN · « **Reply #79 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:14:53 PM »

Quote from: Ptolemy on March 22, 2016, 01:11:03 PM

Quote from: royals&ksu_FAN on March 22, 2016, 01:06:25 PM
Doug was on with Petro again, talked quite a bit about the Brad, K-State, O-State situation.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=5346933

Soren's a better advocate for KState basketball than Kietzman.

As for Gottleib, most of his comment was on his own supposed candidacy for the OSU job - almost incredulous that HIS resume would be considered less attractive than Underwood's.

Yeah, that was definitely included in his stance. He had another horse in the race.

But I think he made some fair points as an outsider as well. Petro made great points that concur with what many K-State fans think. I do like hearing a little bit of discussion about the situation and I respect Doug's opinion even if it has inherent bias.

#LIFE · « **Reply #80 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:15:36 PM »

Quote from: Ptolemy on March 22, 2016, 01:12:36 PM

Really, when is that ever not the goal?

Not since 2012 at least

Cire · « **Reply #81 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:17:04 PM »

Petro's been on oscar's and kstatefan's case for months. Saying kstate fans should be waving pitchforks etc.

wetwillie · « **Reply #82 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:22:05 PM »

I haven't listened to Soren regularly for a while but he seemed really angry about the kstate thing. Maybe he is always that way though. Like at moments I thought he might reach through the phone and choke out gottlieb for even suggesting anything other than firing Currie.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 22, 2016, 01:29:31 PM »

Soren has really started hating oscar this year with all of the excuses. He know's 98% of us are done with him.

ELL3 · « **Reply #84 on:** March 22, 2016, 08:35:02 PM »

The five guys on the scout board that love Oscar called him Soren Hatero, makes me want to listen to him

eastcat · « **Reply #85 on:** March 22, 2016, 08:40:42 PM »

Quote from: Dlew12 on March 22, 2016, 01:12:23 PM

doug said there could be a lot of weird reasons why currie didn't make the move, including but not limited to money, brad not wanting to coach under currie, and currie's own pride in not wanting to admit a mistake. petro said those are all currie's fault, buried oscar's past and future at k-state, and basically called for currie to be fired,

Sounds like the right move to me.

Fire John and Oscar together.

_33 · « **Reply #86 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:19:37 PM »

Can someone please live blog Doug's comments on The Program with Soren Petro today? Really want to listen but can't listen.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #87 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:45:13 PM »

home sick with my brood (strep throat). reporting for duty.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #88 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:47:42 PM »

So far Soren has talked about Sherry's Berries a lot.

Gary Joslin told a story about a real handsome couple, dressed to the nines and he tossed the ring on the counter disgusted.

Gary said "I bet you've been somewhere else."

Seeing the gentleman looking sharp Gary guessed "I bet they told you that ring repair was $700."

"$850."

"Well, the guy was missing a $200 diamond and a $50 repair, we got him fixed up and sent him on his way."

_33 · « **Reply #89 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:51:17 PM »

That's simply a $250 repair all day long at Joslin's.

_33 · « **Reply #90 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:51:49 PM »

You might have missed it. He said 12 oclock hour.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #91 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:53:15 PM »

https://twitter.com/FastTalkinRob/status/829039062837231617

Kat Kid · « **Reply #92 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:56:42 PM »

uh oh. sounds like I missed it.

email from Barbara "babs"

but Soren does not get where Doug is coming from. Soren thinks oscar does a bad job, oscar is not Frank Martin.

(810 Doug)-- "The trajectory is not the same."

Soren: "Year 5, Frank had won 5 NCAA tourney games, Elite 8, 2nd round, 2nd round. Had good players based upon the players Frank Martin left him. Frank Martin was run off, Currie wasn't on board. Doug was much higher than me on this K-State team.

I think they make the tourney, they are going to be a 10 seed in a coin flip. Well win one!

If Gottlieb's mindset is what they have at K-State their program is screwed. If that is Currie's mindset they are screwed. You have to expect 4/5 years in the tourney.

If you sign up for the $2 million check you need to win. Winning is most important. Go to High School or D2 or be a mentor if you want to change lives and develop young men.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #93 on:** February 07, 2017, 12:58:20 PM »

Ok. I am now in the program with the College Hoops Insider Doug Gottlieb from CBS brought to me by Coronoa/Corona Light

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #94 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:00:49 PM »

Doug is simply not trying to burn any bridges with K-State. He probably also wants to feel like he got beat out for the job, by an adequate coach.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #95 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:10:11 PM »

Soren and Doug argue about which is more tiring playing college basketball or raising children. Doug says college hoops is tougher.

you have not missed anything. Soren is insufferable.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #96 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:14:46 PM »

Let's talk about oscar Weber.

oscar: "we outrebounded em, we kicked their butt on the play hard chart, they made a few more plays and made plays at the right time"

Soren: He references the play hard chart and brings it out all the time and replaces the actual score. The play hard chart is something to motivate and use behind closed doors, but to use it for the fanbase after a loss repeatedly, those are excuses. Why does he do this?

Doug: What did he say that was wrong.

Soren: he said "we kicked their butts." I would never use that.

Doug: Kansas was playing small, they are not a great rebounding team.

Soren: When you shoot 38% there are more boards to go around.

Doug: you are right. They had a chance late, but they let Kansas go on a run in the first half after being up big and they lost the game in the first half. They didn't have KU down 7-10 at the break.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #97 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:16:18 PM »

Doug: I thought they played better @KU. They played too fast and lost their minds late. They weren't calm, Self was better at calling timeouts and then getting a bucket or getting to the line out of a timeout.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #98 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:21:52 PM »

Soren: What is rubbing a lot of K-State fans the wrong way is, if they have better playmakers, GO GET SOME PLAYMAKERS! That is part of the job! And it is playing out exactly like some K-State fans called it. oscar can coach and when he has a bit of talent it works out, but we are seeing the same pattern as at Illinois.

Doug: You are saying he doesn't recruit well enough. Do you think Kansas State should have as good of players as KU?

Soren: I say when he sits there in the post-game and says "they (KU) have more playmakers" that is not what K-State fans want to hear.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #99 on:** February 07, 2017, 01:31:20 PM »

Soren: oscar is living up to the expectations, he was a known quantity. At least if you get some unknown the ceiling is sky high because you don't know, but with oscar it is about a 6 and a half foot ceiling because he can't recruit. We knew they would have more playmakers 4 years ago!

Doug: Kansas is going to have more playmakers than K-State. Most of these KU guys weren't highly recruited: Graham, Mason, Lucas? No one in the Big 12 offered Mason. I like oscar's freshman, I think they have some players. They don't have a Josh Jackson, you are right. DJamer misses some easy shots, but DJamer is a decent recruit. They didn't get beat because of recruiting battles, but the thing that is missing is that Self has the ability to call a play or two and we can get a bucket or get to the free throw line. oscar does not have that, the offense was a mess. There were times they had guys in the right spot. They don't have guys in the right spot, great spacing, they don't play great wild.

Soren: When is it going to add up to a run at an Elite 8?

Doug: they just won at Baylor so lets be careful before we crush the dude, but that is a better question and I don't know.

Soren: Currie is not going to fire oscar because he is having an exceed expectations type year, but you've got to look yourself in the mirror as a program. He did a great job of scheduling, he did a great job of getting a couple wins against Baylor and WVU. I think he is going to get in the NCAAs, there are a lot of teams that look like TCU, there are a lot of bad resumes out there. But the big picture is let's take a look at next year, next year looks like an NIT year.

Doug: You are saying why wait til next year what you know this year.

Soren: We just saw Frank go to the NCAAs 4/5 years. K-State fans know you don't have to wait 3 years to build toward something with this program. I want him to make a Sweet 16 run, get in there and do some damage, he hasn't won a game in the tournament.