Let's talk about this-- Miracle in Manhattan HOF discussion

[CyberToothCat]

bad mistake here (putting KU logo on the box for our 41-7 blowout of 95 Nebraska)

Nvm. I'm a moron.

[TownieCat]

If we're staying true to the safety positions and selecting a FS and SS, the SS should be Jarrod Cooper.

Brooks Barta had approx 2,000 tackles so I'm fine with him on there. It's apparent that 4 year players are valued much more than 2 year players, which I agree with.

Having '12 Texas instead of '12 OU is dumb. I'd also put '03 OU #1 and '98 Nub #2, but that's splitting hairs a bit.

'11 Miami was a bigger deal than '11 Baylor. It set the tone for the '11 and '12 seasons. Some of you *cough*CF3*cough* need to stop putting RG3 on a pedestal.

[kso_FAN]

I mean, this seems like a pretty good list compared to this: http://www.kstatesports.com/page/footballtradition-aa

[MakeItRain]

Love Coop but he was crazy overrated and benefited from the fact that no one in the big 12 threw the ball back then

[Kat Kid]

Love Coop but he was crazy overrated and benefited from the fact that no one in the big 12 threw the ball back then

Well except for OU, which destroyed him.

[catzacker]

I can't argue with much of that at all.  They did a good job.

I completely agree with that 1998 NU win being the biggest win.  There is no doubt in my mind.  I wept for joy and pride at that game, and every person around me did the same.  I have never, ever, experienced anything like that at a sporting event before or after.  I'll remember that for the rest of my days.

I enjoyed that game because of not only the game, but the entire season and week leading up to it.  The entire season was geared towards beating NU - we dngaf about basically anyone else.

UT game that year was huge

kind of. there was some hype for it. but we punished Ricky. everything else that year was a sidebar to NU.

[MakeItRain]

Love Coop but he was crazy overrated and benefited from the fact that no one in the big 12 threw the ball back then

Well except for OU, which destroyed him.

He was so lost when he couldn't just run with his head down into gaps or big slow receivers running shallow crossing routes. It was sad

[TheProdigiousTalent]

I honestly thought the pleats in Snyder's khakis in the background image were imperfections in your newspaper reading surface.  Was prepared to recommend new newspaper reception/storage method.  Now that I've got that straightened out, will try to judge the rest on its merits.

[EMAWzified]

The real argument would be kickoff and punt returner.

[MakeItRain]

The real argument would be kickoff and punt returner.

Yeah, wow. This could cause a fist fight just discussing the last two seasons.

[TownieCat]

Love Coop but he was crazy overrated and benefited from the fact that no one in the big 12 threw the ball back then

He was far from perfect, but he was our best SS. That was the point I was trying to make.

[Missouriscribe]

I can't argue with much of that at all.  They did a good job.

I completely agree with that 1998 NU win being the biggest win.  There is no doubt in my mind.  I wept for joy and pride at that game, and every person around me did the same.  I have never, ever, experienced anything like that at a sporting event before or after.  I'll remember that for the rest of my days.

I enjoyed that game because of not only the game, but the entire season and week leading up to it.  The entire season was geared towards beating NU - we dngaf about basically anyone else.

i had a friend/roommate postpone his graduation from college so he could stick around for that fall season. everybody just knew we had a shot at something special/national championship/etc.

I rejected a nu guy's offer of over $100 for my student ticket.
saw an old diude crying tears of joy in the aftermath

[MakeItRain]

Love Coop but he was crazy overrated and benefited from the fact that no one in the big 12 threw the ball back then

He was far from perfect, but he was our best SS. That was the point I was trying to make.

Sorry bub Ty was better. Dante was better last year than any season that Coop had

[sonofdaxjones]

I like a newspaper with no proof readers

[TownieCat]

Love Coop but he was crazy overrated and benefited from the fact that no one in the big 12 threw the ball back then

He was far from perfect, but he was our best SS. That was the point I was trying to make.

Sorry bub Ty was better. Dante was better last year than any season that Coop had

Ty was a FS, not a SS. Barnett had a very good 2014, but Cooper was all Big 12 each of his four years.

[kso_FAN]

This is where it's hard to compare. SS in the 90s and early 00s defenses was more like another LB. SS now is more of another DB and often we play with 5 DBs. Offenses have changed so much.

[Kat Kid]

Teams hardly even bother to classify their DB much because they all need to be able to cover.

[MakeItRain]

I guess I'd be okay with Coop for his impact during the time when he played but he wouldn't start on this year's team.

[Cartierfor3]

If we're staying true to the safety positions and selecting a FS and SS, the SS should be Jarrod Cooper.

Brooks Barta had approx 2,000 tackles so I'm fine with him on there. It's apparent that 4 year players are valued much more than 2 year players, which I agree with.

Having '12 Texas instead of '12 OU is dumb. I'd also put '03 OU #1 and '98 Nub #2, but that's splitting hairs a bit.

'11 Miami was a bigger deal than '11 Baylor. It set the tone for the '11 and '12 seasons. Some of you *cough*CF3*cough* need to stop putting RG3 on a pedestal.

I don't care if Brooks Barfbag had a billion tackles. I had never heard of him until like noon today and I don't have to ever see him play or do anything to know that Arthur Brown was so much better at college football its not even funny.

And the Miami game was huge, but the Baylor one was bigger IMO, and I didn't just imagine RGIII being good at football. He won the heisman. Too many people struggle to seperate NFL failures from what guys did in college.

[star seed 7]

Rg3 lost to a lot of teams

[TownieCat]

If we're staying true to the safety positions and selecting a FS and SS, the SS should be Jarrod Cooper.

Brooks Barta had approx 2,000 tackles so I'm fine with him on there. It's apparent that 4 year players are valued much more than 2 year players, which I agree with.

Having '12 Texas instead of '12 OU is dumb. I'd also put '03 OU #1 and '98 Nub #2, but that's splitting hairs a bit.

'11 Miami was a bigger deal than '11 Baylor. It set the tone for the '11 and '12 seasons. Some of you *cough*CF3*cough* need to stop putting RG3 on a pedestal.

I don't care if Brooks Barfbag had a billion tackles. I had never heard of him until like noon today and I don't have to ever see him play or do anything to know that Arthur Brown was so much better at college football its not even funny.

And the Miami game was huge, but the Baylor one was bigger IMO, and I didn't just imagine RGIII being good at football. He won the heisman. Too many people struggle to seperate NFL failures from what guys did in college.

Barta has the 2nd most tackles in school history. Take it to the shame thread.

[Dr Rick Daris]

Too many people struggle to seperate NFL failures from what guys did in college.

Barta has the 2nd most tackles in school history. Take it to the shame thread.
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yeah. i mean you either believe what you wrote or you don't. i personally don't have much of an opinion either way.

[GoodForAnother]

Brooks Barta was really good. I love Arthur too but it isn't like it's some egregious decision. They clearly mostly favored four year players.

[wetwillie]

they should have included an all time long snapper, and it most definitely would have been Mike Wilson.

[Tobias]

they should have included an all time long snapper, and it most definitely would have been Mike Wilson.