Mass Shooting in San Bernardino: 2 shooters and a guy with a warrant

[Emo EMAW]

I think a lot of people believe that more gun control either wouldn't be effective, or would infringe on 2nd amendment rights, or both. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

You can be for gun control and also be anti-terrorism. I don't understand why dax thinks we can only talk about gun control when white people do this. Very weird stance by him.

So when the Planned Parenthood shooting occurred, the liberal narrative was all about how Dear was motivated by Christianity and the undercover PP videos (both claims dubious at best). When Muslims commit terrorism, the argument shifts to gun control. Interesting.

[Dugout DickStone]

You dorks who constantly tell other people what their "narrative" is are the lamest people alive.  I am not referring to one particular poster either

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

[star seed 7]

You can be for gun control and also be anti-terrorism. I don't understand why dax thinks we can only talk about gun control when white people do this. Very weird stance by him.

So when the Planned Parenthood shooting occurred, the liberal narrative was all about how Dear was motivated by Christianity and the undercover PP videos (both claims dubious at best). When Muslims commit terrorism, the argument shifts to gun control. Interesting.

Looks like gun control applies to both, do you disagree?

[ednksu]

Edn whack-a-doodle thinks that a argument in technical semantics such as what is or is not an assault weapon is a "blatant lie". 

Just more over the top BS from the perpetually angry Chief WhackaDoodle.

sorry you've been caught lying again.  You made a blanket statement that all ARs were banned and anyone who knows anything about gun laws knows that is wrong.  So you can either tap out by admitting you know nothing about the current state of gun issues in America or that you were lying. 

[ednksu]

The handguns were apparently legally purchased 2 or 3 years ago.   Cali has a 10 day waiting period on all gun purchases FYI. 

Reports are the rifles were bought by a relative or former roommate (of course now news reports are emerging of witnesses saying they'd seen a number of men of apparent Middle Eastern descent in the area of this guys home recently, one person was apparently afraid to 'see something say something' out of fear of profiling).   Cali has closed the gun show loophole FYI and AR type weapons are banned for sale in Cali.

Uh hey dax, you can get "California legal" AR's in California. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15s_in_California

thanks for correcting another blatant lie from Dax.  Also I have yet to see anything about a straw sale for the long guns (probably another lie from Dax based on his track record, but we don't know for sure.).

I don't see it as a blatant lie.  The folks that pushed through this legislation, in their victory speeches, said the same thing that dax said.

You're right thats it's interesting to see how different people perceive gun control and what certain types of bans mean.  I think it's important to call out people who spread misinformation in order to further a political agenda.  It's the same level of lying in my book when a Cali rep talks about banning features as a practical measure of gun control and Dax saying entire categories or styles/types of weapons are banned thereby implying these weapons were purchased illegally.

[Emo EMAW]

You can be for gun control and also be anti-terrorism. I don't understand why dax thinks we can only talk about gun control when white people do this. Very weird stance by him.

So when the Planned Parenthood shooting occurred, the liberal narrative was all about how Dear was motivated by Christianity and the undercover PP videos (both claims dubious at best). When Muslims commit terrorism, the argument shifts to gun control. Interesting.

Looks like gun control applies to both, do you disagree?

Honestly, gun control was the only "narrative" I heard with regard to CO Springs, but I really only listen to NPR.

[8manpick]

Oh, wow! So the facts come out and it wasn't white Americans who did this? Not that it matters to me, but I have some libtards I need to troll on Facebook, that shot the gun too early yesterday.

One brown American and one brown non-american.

[Dugout DickStone]

I think a lot of people believe that more gun control either wouldn't be effective, or would infringe on 2nd amendment rights, or both.

Only people who are in their state militia would be concerned about 2nd

[420seriouscat69]

Oh, wow! So the facts come out and it wasn't white Americans who did this? Not that it matters to me, but I have some libtards I need to troll on Facebook, that shot the gun too early yesterday.

One brown American and one brown non-american.

[ednksu]

I think a lot of people believe that more gun control either wouldn't be effective, or would infringe on 2nd amendment rights, or both.

Only people who are in their state militia would be concerned about 2nd

But all military aged males are in the militia, so says the founders.

[DQ12]

I think a lot of people believe that more gun control either wouldn't be effective, or would infringe on 2nd amendment rights, or both.

Only people who are in their state militia would be concerned about 2nd

people don't like giving up freedoms/rights they've become accustomed to.  i get it.

[sonofdaxjones]

You can be for gun control and also be anti-terrorism. I don't understand why dax thinks we can only talk about gun control when white people do this. Very weird stance by him.

Stance?  Weird....as usual.

[8manpick]

 

[Dugout DickStone]

I think a lot of people believe that more gun control either wouldn't be effective, or would infringe on 2nd amendment rights, or both.

Only people who are in their state militia would be concerned about 2nd

But all military aged males are in the militia, so says the founders.

17-45

[star seed 7]

Clinton chilled everyone out 

[420seriouscat69]

Not so fast my friend!



https://twitter.com/Rockprincess818/status/672433211604013057

[8manpick]

Sauce?

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL.   The State of California orginally passed a law which banned specific assault weapons by name, they came back and amended that legislation in 2000 or 2001 and genericized it as best they could to cover as many variations that were understood at the time with specific emphasis on AK and AR weapons.

Are people skirting the law with derivatives and variations and grandfathering etc. etc.   Sure. that happens all the time, with 1000's of laws covering all matter of issues.   

But the jest of the law was and still is an attempt to ban the sale of, and requiring the special permitting and registration of assault weapons.

Only a hyperactive whack-a-doodle would attempt to argue otherwise . . . thus we have EDN.

[renocat]

Gun control  Obama style would not have stopped this.   Suspect was a Muslim married to a radical Saudi woman last spring.  They walk into a Christmas party and shot people.  Christmas is about the birth of Christ.    Lone dog hate attack, just like Colorado.

[star seed 7]

Lol @ Christmas being about the birth of christ 

[CNS]

Oh, wow! So the facts come out and it wasn't white Americans who did this? Not that it matters to me, but I have some libtards I need to troll on Facebook, that shot the gun too early yesterday.

One brown American and one brown non-american.

Some are missing my point, I guess.  I would rather this be what seems to be a continuation of what has become a norm, rather than something that would indicate a terrorist attack on our soil that was funded, planned, organized, or whatever by a terrorist org such as ISIS.  The former will still suck, but I would think we would all prefer chalking this up to whatever the normal reasons are vs the the latter which would force us into a much more forward approach to addressing whatever terroist org may/maynot be involved(if this even ends up being the case) than what we are already doing.

That is neither a lib or pub appoach, imo.  Simply not wanting to be drawn further into a guaranteed to be messy conflict by the actions of three assholes in CA.

[Emo EMAW]

Oh, wow! So the facts come out and it wasn't white Americans who did this? Not that it matters to me, but I have some libtards I need to troll on Facebook, that shot the gun too early yesterday.

One brown American and one brown non-american.

Some are missing my point, I guess.  I would rather this be what seems to be a continuation of what has become a norm, rather than something that would indicate a terrorist attack on our soil that was funded, planned, organized, or whatever by a terrorist org such as ISIS.  The former will still suck, but I would think we would all prefer chalking this up to whatever the normal reasons are vs the the latter which would force us into a much more forward approach to addressing whatever terroist org may/maynot be involved(if this even ends up being the case) than what we are already doing.

That is neither a lib or pub appoach, imo.  Simply not wanting to be drawn further into a guaranteed to be messy conflict by the actions of three assholes in CA.

It's secret door #3, lone wolf radical Muslim.  Doubt he had help or support from any formal organization we have heard of.  Which is also very scary.

[AbeFroman]

You can be for gun control and also be anti-terrorism. I don't understand why dax thinks we can only talk about gun control when white people do this. Very weird stance by him.

So when the Planned Parenthood shooting occurred, the liberal narrative was all about how Dear was motivated by Christianity and the undercover PP videos (both claims dubious at best). When Muslims commit terrorism, the argument shifts to gun control. Interesting.

FWIW I think all religion is bad and gun control would prevent both Christians and Muslims from doing this crap