thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks

[Rage Against the McKee]

If you don't accept the refugees, the terrorists win.

[star seed 7]

what if isis killed 10,000 refugees if we didn't take them?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So dramatic

You know what else is dramatic? Hundreds of civilians murdered by ISIS in a "safe" western country.

We have thousands of civilians murdered every year so I'm kinda desensitized to it. Worry about swimming pools and car wrecks instead of terrorism.

Wow.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

what if isis killed 10,000 refugees if we didn't take them?

I think that question is based on the faulty premise that there's no other way to protect innocent Syrians. But that's not true.

[Tobias]

someone could adopt them

[michigancat]

last time we fought a war in iraq about 100k civilians were killed, so you know, that's one way to protect them

[sonofdaxjones]

I hadn't realized that some of the most reputable media sources in the world had cadres of journalists engaged in creating conspiracy theories.

The CIA just came right out and admitted (and reported in the NYT's) that they trained over 10,000 fighters and sent them into Syria . . . but to whack-a-doodle EDN, that's a "conspiracy theory".    You just can't make that kind of $hit up right there, a conspiracy theory. 

Oh wait EDN wants to lecture us with a litany of stuff people learned in History of the Middle East 095. 

[sonofdaxjones]

I wonder how many those 10,000 "Freedom Fighters" ended up in ISIS?   Oh wait, that would be a "conspiracy theory" . . . I mean golly, there was no backlash from the CIA trained and supplied Mujaheddin. 

Shoot, another conspiracy theory

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/middle-east/article35322882.html

[puniraptor]

A story on NPR this morning said that ISIS pays its fighters $700 a month and always on time while the Afghan army pays $300 a month 5 months late or more.

[ednksu]

A story on NPR this morning said that ISIS pays its fighters $700 a month and always on time while the Afghan army pays $300 a month 5 months late or more.

easy to do when the CIA is giving you all dat cash!

[sonofdaxjones]

Can the mods create "an unless EDN whackadoodle says it, it's all conspiracy theory" thread so we can get on with this one. 

Oh and remember the US didn't start supporting "freedom fighters" in Syria for "years" after the civil war started, well that is if a year is measured in 3 months or less. 

But it was all just homegrown indigenous political upheaval with ZERO outside influence, regimes like Assads tend to let those flourish.

Que. 74 sentence Middle East 045: Captain Obvious Points That Everyone Knows screed.

[chuckjames]

i hope everyone here is clear headed enough to realize that the passport was deliberately carried, so that it could be found.

Yes, I'm sure it was a plant.

strategy 101, ksuw fails.

https://twitter.com/gianlucamezzo/status/666554550229299200

[Rage Against the McKee]

Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

i hope everyone here is clear headed enough to realize that the passport was deliberately carried, so that it could be found.

Yes, I'm sure it was a plant.

Turns out it was.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So he used somebody else's passport to pose as a Syrian refugee? 

[Rage Against the McKee]

So he used somebody else's passport to pose as a Syrian refugee? 

yeah

[Dugout DickStone]

So he used somebody else's passport to pose as a Syrian refugee? 

Do you know what it means to "plant" something in this scenario?

[Rage Against the McKee]

So he used somebody else's passport to pose as a Syrian refugee? 

Do you know what it means to "plant" something in this scenario?

It's not a plant. Just a fake. My fault for not reading closely enough.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

And why can't terrorists just as easily do that for a free flight to the United States? Free housing and other public assistance, too!

[michigancat]

And why can't terrorists just as easily do that for a free flight to the United States? Free housing and other public assistance, too!

The free stuff would make them reconsider being terrorists!

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

And why can't terrorists just as easily do that for a free flight to the United States? Free housing and other public assistance, too!

The free stuff would make them reconsider being terrorists!

No it wouldn't. Many terrorists were found to be on public assistance.

[michigancat]

And why can't terrorists just as easily do that for a free flight to the United States? Free housing and other public assistance, too!

The free stuff would make them reconsider being terrorists!

No it wouldn't. Many terrorists were found to be on public assistance.

You have such a simple mind, it's adorable. Like a puppy.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah your typical run-of-the-mill terrorist:  Private Jets, Bentley's, Finest Cheeses and Wines, Titanium platted AK's . . . pure T Hollywood stuff

[ednksu]

And why can't terrorists just as easily do that for a free flight to the United States? Free housing and other public assistance, too!

Because that isn't how the American refugee system works?  The problem is that many countries are registering these people without doing enough background checking.  To even be considered coming here you must first go through the entire UN check system, then you have to go through our check system.  If anything is "off" you are held and not free to travel in or to the US.  Keep in mind that the US has taken in 750,000 refugees since 9/11 and none of them have been charged with domestic terrorism.

[sonofdaxjones]

You need a subscription, and be forewarned, it's assuredly a conspiracy theory (just channeling EDN whack-a-doodle logic), but another article from the London Times about the US shipping former Libyan arms into Syria.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1173125.ece

Of note is the AA systems which neutralize Assad's Air Force which subsequently only prolongs the fighting and hastens the entry of Assad Allies.   But that's probably just a conspiracy theory. 

[ednksu]

Hey Dax, proven liar and conspiracy theorist, lets move away from things everyone knows.