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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #125 on: November 14, 2015, 12:31:32 PM »
Steve Dave will need to confirm whether I put this in the right thread.

Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

Obama works to fast track Syrian refugees to US
Holy eff. Those refugees are trying to bail from the same people that the civilized world has now vowed to eradicate, and you're pissed that the US is setting up more screening locations to help them bail? Last night's mods separation of edn's news thread and your political bullshit must have burst some blood vessels in your brain.

Some are refugees. Others are terrorists. Let's let other countries sort that out. I'd rather not play trial and error on Anerican soil, thanks.
Do you even read the bullshit that you post anymore? A suspected terrorist likely traveled in a boat through Greece to participate in the Paris attack, and that's directly related to the US setting up screening locations in Iran and Lebanon to allow maybe 10,000 heavily screened refugees into the US? Lol Go back to your temper tantrum thread.

Oh. They'll be "heavily screened?" Well ok then. Never mind. I'm sure it'll be just fine... :facepalm:
Explain how allowing a limited number of refugees a year from now coming to the US adversely threatens our national security. Considering that there were French nationalists involved with the terrorist attacks, are you in favor of not allowing anyone of French nationality travel to the US? Or the Belgium ties, maybe nobody from there either?

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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #126 on: November 14, 2015, 12:33:29 PM »
French Nationalists?

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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #127 on: November 14, 2015, 12:33:54 PM »
Steve Dave will need to confirm whether I put this in the right thread.

Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

Obama works to fast track Syrian refugees to US
Holy eff. Those refugees are trying to bail from the same people that the civilized world has now vowed to eradicate, and you're pissed that the US is setting up more screening locations to help them bail? Last night's mods separation of edn's news thread and your political bullshit must have burst some blood vessels in your brain.

Some are refugees. Others are terrorists. Let's let other countries sort that out. I'd rather not play trial and error on Anerican soil, thanks.
Do you even read the bullshit that you post anymore? A suspected terrorist likely traveled in a boat through Greece to participate in the Paris attack, and that's directly related to the US setting up screening locations in Iran and Lebanon to allow maybe 10,000 heavily screened refugees into the US? Lol Go back to your temper tantrum thread.

Oh. They'll be "heavily screened?" Well ok then. Never mind. I'm sure it'll be just fine... :facepalm:

I really enjoyed the part where you make up facts and use infor wars quality webpages as your citation. 

FYI to people who give a crap about the truth, the passport was "registered" through Greece.  We haven't heard what type of registration that was or if for sure this passport is connected to this terrorist. 
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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #128 on: November 14, 2015, 12:38:20 PM »
French Nationalists?
Well yeah, since reports that the terrorists at The Bataclan "spoke French with no noticeable accent" I think our buddy KSU would support not allowing any French Nationalists inside our borders either.

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« Reply #129 on: November 14, 2015, 12:42:22 PM »
You might want to evaluate your definition of "Nationalist"

In most parlance's a "Nationalist" is going to want to defend their country against outside influence.




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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #130 on: November 14, 2015, 12:49:07 PM »
You might want to evaluate your definition of "Nationalist"

In most parlance's a "Nationalist" is going to want to defend their country against outside influence.
They are a group of people that speak French just like some of the terrorists reportedly did. Therefore, they could be terrorists and the US should explicitly keep any of them from ever being admitted through the US border.

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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #131 on: November 14, 2015, 12:59:07 PM »
The fact that you have to put America at the center of every event in the world shows your lack of objectivity.  (absolutely laughable, I have never put America at the center of every event in the World, typical EDN over the top hyperbole)


 This conflict has been brewing because of hundreds of years of religious conflict, a hundred years of European colonial influence, 50 years of political rivalry in the region by regional powers, and 11 years of US running into the region like a bull in a china shop, 5 years of a growing religious death cult.  (Captain Obvious points of which many I have addressed on numerous occasions) 

Dems leading clandestine wars isn't even on the top of the list for why this situation got as mumped up as it is.  But I've noted that before, as others have, and with great evidence/news commentary to boot, and you can't assimilate any of that into your world view.  It's sad that you continue to bang out these posts to argue at the wall.  (Just because what I say cuts against the entirety of the grain of your delicate ProgLib hyper sensitivity doesn't make it any less true.   In addition I have constantly alluded the U.S. AND Western Powers, apparently you have chosen to completely ignore that.  I was talking about Russia getting involved on the level of which they have in Syria months before it happened.   The facts are irrefutable that this administration has lit the fires of overthrow and destabilization and then left the scene of the crime like bad guys who don't look at the explosion)


 We all agree the US has done some mumped up things.  But to set up this world where only the US is pushing these dominoes into play shows that you don't have the intellectual capacity to talk like an adult and understand what is really going on.  So why don't you give your keyboard a rest, we all agree black ops that go bad are bad. The US shouldn't do it.  The US shouldn't be hypocrites about a lot of things.  Go read a rough ridin' book (First of all, only a total dumbass would think that what I am saying has anything to do with Bill O'Reilly or Fox News.   Really, is Fox News calling for an end of clandestine wars of aggression?  Is Fox News calling for an end of assassination by drone?  Is Fox News calling for an end of support to Theological Dictatorships who as proxies of the U.S. are heightening the chaos and catastrophe that is Syria?   Is Fox News calling out the Administration for its idiotic and absolutely unnecessary overthrow of the Libyan Government and subsequently turning Libya into a "freedom fighter" recruitment and a weapons depot for clandestine wars in Syria?   I barely even pay attention to Fox News unless they're hosting a presidential debate)

You're entire post was total drivel, as usual.

You say hyperbole, but every post you make about a region of instability you link back to Obama. Sorry that is your post history.  If you don't feel that way, be less of a shitty poster. 

To your point about captain obvs....well it's not from your posting.  You never talk about colonialism, you never talk about the war in Iraq being the most recent cause for this regional instability (because you'd have to hop off that Republican male genitals you love so much).  And you sure as eff never talk about the regional players who are the root cause to the continued instability.  You sure as eff don't talk about Turkey, a NATO ally running guns into ISIS against our wishes.  Why don't you talk about stuff like that, because it would utterly destroy your talking points of a world hegemon US, headed by Obama, running amok and blundering from conflict to conflict.  None of those facts fit your narrative so you don't even ignore them, you put blinders on and viciously attack anyone who brings up relevant facts that check your points.  You don't have an ounce of ideological credibility to discuss things because your narrative is informing your view, not the facts. 

Those facts that you conveniently ignore, are not part of a proglib agenda.  They are part of what we call "truth" and I'm sorry that your agenda driven perspective is so blinded by anything that runs counter to your preconceptions that you must block it off as "proglib" (or whatever the neo right will call it next month).  The fact that you "allude" to US and Western powers is the problem.  There is nothing to allude to.  It's part of your issues with the truth that there are other actors outside the US and the amorphous "allies"/everyone else.  The facts that you "allude" to this shows how rough ridin' ignorant you are, when our "allies" are acting against American foreign policy.  The fact is every time you homogenize "allies" it shows that you don't understand there are a eff load of countries in the region pursuing their own policy goals that run counter to ours.  These facts can't fit into your narrative so you are ignoring them and failing to assimilate them. It's the same bullshit from the neo-right that got us mumped in Iraq to begin with because you are smoothing out details you find irrelevant at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives, trillions of dollars, and the security of this nation.  Stop and examine something that runs counter to your small world and expand your rough ridin' horizons. 

Your points about Russia here make no sense.  Anyone who understands policy knows that Russia is doing this for only their self interest and it has eff all to do with combating ISIS.  It's semi related because they are starting a larger fire *here* so islamo fascism doesn't burn in their backyard in Chechnya or Georgia.  It has more to do with rough ridin' with the "west" and you would know that if you payed attention to who they were attacking in the opening weeks of their operation.  Instead you're too busy with your face in Putin's lap to look at what is going on around you.  But that would require you fitting facts into your narrative that might eff up your anti-Obama agenda. 

And the point about foxnews, is that their journalistic integrity is a solid as your reasoning.  I love the "I barely even pay attention to Fox News" talking point though, it makes for a good laugh when you're spouting off their talking points week after week, see your prolific use of "proglib".  But lets not belabor that point.  You only get your news from sources fit your agenda.  Fine and dandy you don't "pay attention" to foxnews.  I'll away your next batch of talking points though.  I'm sure they won't fit anything breitbart, fox, drudge, daily caller, weekly standard, or red state are putting out there. 
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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #132 on: November 14, 2015, 01:00:32 PM »
You might want to evaluate your definition of "Nationalist"

In most parlance's a "Nationalist" is going to want to defend their country against outside influence.
They are a group of people that speak French just like some of the terrorists reportedly did. Therefore, they could be terrorists and the US should explicitly keep any of them from ever being admitted through the US border.

He is being a $!#* because you didn't say "french national."  In his world a minor slip means your entire point is now invalid, even though everyone knew exactly what you mean.
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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #133 on: November 14, 2015, 01:04:54 PM »
If we hadn't left a power vacuum in Syria, would the terrorists be attacking us instead of France?

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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #134 on: November 14, 2015, 01:15:33 PM »
You might want to evaluate your definition of "Nationalist"

In most parlance's a "Nationalist" is going to want to defend their country against outside influence.
They are a group of people that speak French just like some of the terrorists reportedly did. Therefore, they could be terrorists and the US should explicitly keep any of them from ever being admitted through the US border.

He is being a $!#* because you didn't say "french national."  In his world a minor slip means your entire point is now invalid, even though everyone knew exactly what you mean.
Which is more interesting because I wasn't calling out his shitty posting, just KSU's.

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« Reply #135 on: November 14, 2015, 02:49:57 PM »
words are important.  i support dax highlighting the erroneous use of nationalists instead of nationals.
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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #136 on: November 14, 2015, 02:52:00 PM »
If we hadn't left a power vacuum in Syria, would the terrorists be attacking us instead of France?

no.
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« Reply #137 on: November 14, 2015, 02:59:49 PM »
Yeah, probably not. They might still attack Paris though

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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #138 on: November 14, 2015, 03:33:09 PM »
If we hadn't left a power vacuum in Syria, would the terrorists be attacking us instead of France?
what do you think is happening in Syria?  This is a semi honest question here.
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« Reply #139 on: November 14, 2015, 03:40:12 PM »
If we hadn't left a power vacuum in Syria, would the terrorists be attacking us instead of France?
what do you think is happening in Syria?  This is a semi honest question here.
I have no idea, at least with regards to how we could have prevented the Paris attacks.

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« Reply #140 on: November 14, 2015, 03:49:17 PM »
Not sure if you guys know, but terrorist attacks are unique to the obama administration
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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« Reply #141 on: November 14, 2015, 03:49:49 PM »
Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

i hope everyone here is clear headed enough to realize that the passport was deliberately carried, so that it could be found.
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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #142 on: November 15, 2015, 07:44:29 AM »
Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

i hope everyone here is clear headed enough to realize that the passport was deliberately carried, so that it could be found.

Yes, I'm sure it was a plant. :facepalm:
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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Re: thread to talk about obama being at fault for the paris terrorist attacks
« Reply #143 on: November 15, 2015, 09:46:30 AM »
Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

i hope everyone here is clear headed enough to realize that the passport was deliberately carried, so that it could be found.

Yes, I'm sure it was a plant. :facepalm:

I think what sys is saying is the terrorists wanted everyone to know this was carried out by the fully contained JV team known as ISIL.

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« Reply #144 on: November 15, 2015, 10:03:57 AM »
It is truly amazing the mental contortions some will go through to deny that American foreign policy is a shambles and has allowed terrorists to proliferate.

It is just willful ignorance. Their preferred candidates won't even admit there is a problem with radical Islam. Shipping in tens of thousands of "refugees" from Islamic nations despite the FBI director saying they can't be fully vetted? Bring them on in!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #145 on: November 15, 2015, 10:12:13 AM »
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/11/13/obama_i_dont_want_to_speculate_who_is_behind_paris_attack.html

But you know what it wasn't? Radical Islam, cause I can't say those words. I also can't say it was ISIS, cause I just said that JV squad was contained. Like, I literally said that the same day as the attack.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #146 on: November 15, 2015, 10:20:35 AM »
"Just wait." ISIS warned over a month ago that thousands had been smuggled into Europe as refugees.  http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #147 on: November 15, 2015, 10:58:24 AM »
Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

i hope everyone here is clear headed enough to realize that the passport was deliberately carried, so that it could be found.

Yes, I'm sure it was a plant. :facepalm:

I heard ISIS had captured a passport office in Syria.

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« Reply #148 on: November 15, 2015, 11:18:46 AM »
Paris terrorist a Syrian "refugee"

i hope everyone here is clear headed enough to realize that the passport was deliberately carried, so that it could be found.

Yes, I'm sure it was a plant. :facepalm:

I heard ISIS had captured a passport office in Syria.

So they can make Syrian passports? Good for them.

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« Reply #149 on: November 15, 2015, 11:37:32 AM »
You say hyperbole, but every post you make about a region of instability you link back to Obama. Sorry that is your post history.  If you don't feel that way, be less of a shitty poster.  (another screed from EDN  :rolleyes:, and me linking everything to Obama is crap, but he has been in office for what, SEVEN years now?)

To your point about captain obvs....well it's not from your posting.  You never talk about colonialism, you never talk about the war in Iraq being the most recent cause for this regional instability (because you'd have to hop off that Republican crock you love so much).  (I mentioned Iraq earlier in this thread, and clandestine wars of aggression are just another form of colonialism, and it's absolutely irrefutable that the current SOS, the former SOS and the sitting VP were major proponents of the Iraq War and Hillary's husband tried to wag the dog with Iraq when he was president)

 And you sure as eff never talk about the regional players who are the root cause to the continued instability.  (I've talked about Saudi Arabia and others being engaged for a long time in many posts, but they're still by and large proxies of the United States and/or Western Intlligence agencies)  You sure as eff don't talk about Turkey, a NATO ally running guns into ISIS against our wishes. (I've talked about gun running to ISIS often and if you think it was done against our wishes, or U.S. weapons or at least U.S. shipped weapons aren't in the hands of ISIS either purposefully or by accident you're an utter whack-a-doodle)  Why don't you talk about stuff like that, because it would utterly destroy your talking points of a world hegemon US, headed by Obama (As Glenn Greenwald so succinctly said a few years back, the Obama Administration on some levels was and in some ways still is out neo-con'ing the neo-cons) running amok and blundering from conflict to conflict.  None of those facts fit your narrative so you don't even ignore them, you put blinders on and viciously attack anyone who brings up relevant facts that check your points. (total bullshit) You don't have an ounce of ideological credibility to discuss things because your narrative is informing your view, not the facts.  (laughable, you've been nothing but a constant apologist for all things Obama and all things Dem/Prog-Lib)

Those facts that you conveniently ignore, are not part of a proglib agenda.  They are part of what we call "truth" and I'm sorry that your agenda driven perspective is so blinded by anything that runs counter to your preconceptions that you must block it off as "proglib" (or whatever the neo right will call it next month).  The fact that you "allude" to US and Western powers is the problem.  There is nothing to allude to.  It's part of your issues with the truth that there are other actors outside the US and the amorphous "allies"/everyone else.  The facts that you "allude" to this shows how rough ridin' ignorant you are, when our "allies" are acting against American foreign policy.  The fact is every time you homogenize "allies" it shows that you don't understand there are a eff load of countries in the region pursuing their own policy goals that run counter to ours.  These facts can't fit into your narrative so you are ignoring them and failing to assimilate them. It's the same bullshit from the neo-right that got us mumped in Iraq to begin with because you are smoothing out details you find irrelevant at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives, trillions of dollars, and the security of this nation.  Stop and examine something that runs counter to your small world and expand your rough ridin' horizons.  (All Captain Obvious points understood a long time ago, the simple facts there is no regime change in Libya there is no real attempt at regime change in Syria, there is likely less destabilization in Yemen, and there is less propping up of Theological Dictatorships without the United States, not to mention the idiotic attempt to . . . STILL! To get the Muslim Brotherhood back at the table in Egypt, without the United States)

Your points about Russia here make no sense.  Anyone who understands policy knows that Russia is doing this for only their self interest and it has eff all to do with combating ISIS.  It's semi related because they are starting a larger fire *here* so islamo fascism doesn't burn in their backyard in Chechnya or Georgia.  It has more to do with rough ridin' with the "west" and you would know that if you payed attention to who they were attacking in the opening weeks of their operation.  Instead you're too busy with your face in Putin's lap to look at what is going on around you.  But that would require you fitting facts into your narrative that might eff up your anti-Obama agenda.   (I talked about Russia's self interests a long time ago on this board, you apparently weren't paying any attention)

And the point about foxnews, is that their journalistic integrity is a solid as your reasoning.  I love the "I barely even pay attention to Fox News" talking point though, it makes for a good laugh when you're spouting off their talking points week after week, see your prolific use of "proglib".  But lets not belabor that point.  You only get your news from sources fit your agenda.  Fine and dandy you don't "pay attention" to foxnews.  I'll away your next batch of talking points though.  I'm sure they won't fit anything breitbart, fox, drudge, daily caller, weekly standard, or red state are putting out there.  (Again, you can't have this conversation with somebody who either doesn't pay any attention to what I've actually posted on this board and is such a hardcore apologist for all things Prog-Lib.   I have repeatedly and continuously posted articles from media sources and entities that will never be discussed on Drudge, or Fox News . . . again, apparently you weren't paying any attention.   Your re-hasing stuff I was talking about months, even years ago all because you simply cannot handle any criticism of the Obama Administration)