diet

[fatty fat fat]

piss, have you ever titrated asparamente?

it's harmless.

[pissclams]

piss, have you ever titrated asparamente?

it's harmless.

i have to shamelessly admit that i have fatty.  when i first cut down on sugar i tried a lot of things with aspartame in them.  then one day i got a letter from a rat that was dying of aspartame induced cancers.   

[Dr Rick Daris]

stepped on a scale at work three weeks ago and realized that i have gained almost twenty pounds in the last 2-3 years. immediately implemented a super hardcore diet routine. breakfast bar type thing in the morning. six inch subway submarine sandwich (no cheese or mayo) and sunchips for lunch. plenty of water throughout the day and a sensible dinner. no snacks after dinner and only light/lite beer except on special occasions. down 1.5 pounds already. i'll be sure to provide consistent updates to this breaking news story.

down another 2.0 pounds. 3.5 total. bmi is now 26.2. technically still "overweight". need to lose another eight pounds to get into "normal weight" range. then can just put 'er on cruise. 

[pissclams]

stepped on a scale at work three weeks ago and realized that i have gained almost twenty pounds in the last 2-3 years. immediately implemented a super hardcore diet routine. breakfast bar type thing in the morning. six inch subway submarine sandwich (no cheese or mayo) and sunchips for lunch. plenty of water throughout the day and a sensible dinner. no snacks after dinner and only light/lite beer except on special occasions. down 1.5 pounds already. i'll be sure to provide consistent updates to this breaking news story.

down another 2.0 pounds. 3.5 total. bmi is now 26.2. technically still "overweight". need to lose another eight pounds to get into "normal weight" range. then can just put 'er on cruise. 

what's up fatass?  how's the kentucky fried chicken?  sodium alright?? 

[Dr Rick Daris]

stepped on a scale at work three weeks ago and realized that i have gained almost twenty pounds in the last 2-3 years. immediately implemented a super hardcore diet routine. breakfast bar type thing in the morning. six inch subway submarine sandwich (no cheese or mayo) and sunchips for lunch. plenty of water throughout the day and a sensible dinner. no snacks after dinner and only light/lite beer except on special occasions. down 1.5 pounds already. i'll be sure to provide consistent updates to this breaking news story.

down another 2.0 pounds. 3.5 total. bmi is now 26.2. technically still "overweight". need to lose another eight pounds to get into "normal weight" range. then can just put 'er on cruise. 

what's up fatass?  how's the kentucky fried chicken?  sodium alright?? 

yeah. pretty embarassing. i was a little surprised when i did the calculations two months ago. oh well. with my incredibly smart diet plan of six inch sandwiches and sunchips for lunch and only light beer (except special occasions), i should be back to "normal" range  in time for fball season. have thought about exercise to speed up the process but i'm not really sure that it's worth it.

[pissclams]

need to try the low sodium.  incredible that people underestimate the power of it.

[Saulbadguy]

Checking my logs, since april 28th i've lost 3 lbs.  Haven't done enough walking from the far end of the parking lot apparently.

[pissclams]

Checking my logs, since april 28th i've lost 3 lbs.  Haven't done enough walking from the far end of the parking lot apparently.

it's bad genes, don't beat yourself up- there's nothing you could have done about it.

[chum1]

need to try the low sodium.  incredible that people underestimate the power of it.

Interesting that you bring that up in this thread.  Wanna know the real reason people are eating too much sodium?  Because they're eating way too much rough ridin' food. 

[fatty fat fat]

piss, what is it about sodium that has your hair raised?

[pissclams]

need to try the low sodium.  incredible that people underestimate the power of it.

Interesting that you bring that up in this thread.  Wanna know the real reason people are eating too much sodium?  Because they're eating way too much fracking food.  

good point to some extent but the food we do eat is loaded with too much sodium even when eaten in smaller portions.

piss, what is it about sodium that has your hair raised?

i read something about how bad it is for you then i started doing more reading.  i think it's pretty bad for you when you see all the things it can do and how much of it is in all of our food.  also i'm a pretty healthy person and like to try to eliminate all the crap that doesn't do anything but hurt our bodies when you eat too much of it.  i know everything in excess is bad but sodium is super easy to go over on since everything we eat is loaded with it.  feel the same way about sugar - really bad for you.

[pissclams]

also i think that most people don't know about it's effects on their diets.

    *  In 2006, 631,636 people died of heart disease. Heart disease caused 26% of deaths—more than one in every four—in the United States.1
    * Heart disease is the leading cause of death for both men and women. Half of the deaths due to heart disease in 2006 were women.1
    * Coronary heart disease is the most common type of heart disease. In 2005, 445,687 people died from coronary heart disease.2
    * Every year about 785,000 Americans have a first heart attack. Another 470,000 who have already had one or more heart attacks have another attack.3
    * In 2010, heart disease will cost the United States $316.4 billion.3 This total includes the cost of health care services, medications, and lost productivity.

[steve dave]

also i think that most people don't know about it's effects on their diets.

    *  In 2006, 631,636 people died of heart disease. Heart disease caused 26% of deaths—more than one in every four—in the United States.1
    * Heart disease is the leading cause of death for both men and women. Half of the deaths due to heart disease in 2006 were women.1
    * Coronary heart disease is the most common type of heart disease. In 2005, 445,687 people died from coronary heart disease.2
    * Every year about 785,000 Americans have a first heart attack. Another 470,000 who have already had one or more heart attacks have another attack.3
    * In 2010, heart disease will cost the United States $316.4 billion.3 This total includes the cost of health care services, medications, and lost productivity.

I don't think sodium is responsible for any of that fwiw

[Dr Rick Daris]

people are different and bodies are different. some people would be just fine eating huge amounts of sodium and other people wouldn't. as a whole i would say that sodium, in large amounts, is not good for most people. two cents.

[Cire]

I had 3 fried tacos for dinner.   They were fantastic.

[steve dave]

Yeah, most things in excess is bad.  Sodium, fat, weight, sun, alcohol, drugs, tons of stuff.  Some people can handle more than others without it affecting them.  I agree that sodium in large amounts isn't good all things being equal. 

[Saulbadguy]

Checking my logs, since april 28th i've lost 3 lbs.  Haven't done enough walking from the far end of the parking lot apparently.

it's bad genes, don't beat yourself up- there's nothing you could have done about it.

naw, not following my diet strictly enough.  4 lbs in 3 weeks isn't too bad thou.  I'm already over that hump where you lose an insane amount of weight for the first month or so.  Now it is a pound or two a week.

[Dr Rick Daris]

Yeah, most things in excess is bad.  Sodium, fat, weight, sun, alcohol, drugs, tons of stuff.  Some people can handle more than others without it affecting them.  I agree that sodium in large amounts isn't good all things being equal. 

the problem is that most americans don't get sun, alcohol, drugs or tons of other stuff in excess. they do w/ sodium. the average american consumes twice the usa rda for sodium daily. the avg american consumes three times the rda of sodium for most other countries. it's something that almost all americans do in excess and most don't know it.

[steve dave]

Yeah, most things in excess is bad.  Sodium, fat, weight, sun, alcohol, drugs, tons of stuff.  Some people can handle more than others without it affecting them.  I agree that sodium in large amounts isn't good all things being equal. 

the problem is that most americans don't get sun, alcohol, drugs or tons of other stuff in excess. they do w/ sodium. the average american consumes twice the usa rda for sodium daily. the avg american consumes three times the rda of sodium for most other countries. it's something that almost all americans do in excess and most don't know it.

Yeah, but what is the downside?  Is the average age that Americans live drastically shorter than other countries where sodium is allegedly not consumed as much?  I doubt it is.  Maybe quality of life do to sodium intake?  I don't know, I don't know much about it. 

[steve dave]

I mean, if you show me a country where 80% of the population smokes and compare it to a country where 8% of the population smokes I bet you see a clear difference.  Also with countries with dissimilar obesity rates, or any number of other factors.  I've just seen no data that shows me that sodium intake is really a factor. 

[Saulbadguy]

people who warn me of the dangers of sodium = 

[Dr Rick Daris]

I mean, if you show me a country where 80% of the population smokes and compare it to a country where 8% of the population smokes I bet you see a clear difference.  Also with countries with dissimilar obesity rates, or any number of other factors.  I've just seen no data that shows me that sodium intake is really a factor. 

if you give me some time, i can give you some pretty good stuff. can't think of the country right now, but when i do you'll be all 

[steve dave]

I mean, if you show me a country where 80% of the population smokes and compare it to a country where 8% of the population smokes I bet you see a clear difference.  Also with countries with dissimilar obesity rates, or any number of other factors.  I've just seen no data that shows me that sodium intake is really a factor. 

if you give me some time, i can give you some pretty good stuff. can't think of the country right now, but when i do you'll be all 

 







psyche
 

[steve dave]

Here's one that says salt is bad

http://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/Salt_Report_VC_april07.pdf

Here's a CNN one

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/01/21/salt.intake/index.html

[Dr Rick Daris]

Here's one that says salt is bad

http://www.who.int/dietphysicalactivity/Salt_Report_VC_april07.pdf

Here's a CNN one

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/01/21/salt.intake/index.html

d00d, there's like a bajillion things that say sodium is bad. i was talking about presenting th ultimate sodium country sodium vs no sodium thing that you were asking for.