KK is going to be must listen

[steve dave]

remember when BMW was convinced that the NCAA was going to drop the hammer on KSU like 2 years ago?  He even had a date when it was going to happen.

Oh yeah, all of Tardville was in on that one.  An OP law firm was involved, and Tardville knew the whole scope and the NCAA was going to "Drop the hammer" on K-State.    So Ben just parroted what he read in Tardville forums.   

Remember now, K-State athletics is in a "shambles" and it would take "years" to recover.

Now you guys are doing the exact same thing.  Bravo!

What's the scoop Beems?  Which heads will roll?

I don't know, and don't really care.  More interested in where Terrence Jones is going to commit.

We both know this is BS.  I wasn't flaming, just looking for insight. 

[OregonSmock]

why would you not care about this?

i can understand not caring if this stuff were going on in the english dept, but the athletic dept seems to be something you follow closely. 

I just don't see much coming out of this.  Rodney Jones is going to prison, along with a few others possibly.  Doesn't change my status as a KU fan.  

[VGibsonLives]

why would you not care about this?

i can understand not caring if this stuff were going on in the english dept, but the athletic dept seems to be something you follow closely. 

I just don't see much coming out of this.  Rodney Jones is going to prison, along with a few others possibly.  Doesn't change my status as a KU fan.  

You wear smug indifference well. Bravo.

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben, we use words like possibly, could, maybe

You on the other hand were definitively saying that the "Hammer" WAS going to drop on K-State. 

[sonofdaxjones]

It's always a good thing when athletic department officials are going to prison for activities undertaken while they were conducting business on behalf of the athletic department.

That's some new squawk logic you've just got stand back and admire.

[OregonSmock]

Ben, we use words like possibly, could, maybe

You on the other hand were definitively saying that the "Hammer" WAS going to drop on K-State. 

I could have sworn your former athletic director was caught using private donations for personal expenses. 

[Cire]

Ben, we use words like possibly, could, maybe

You on the other hand were definitively saying that the "Hammer" WAS going to drop on K-State. 

I could have sworn your former athletic director was caught using private donations for personal expenses. 

Ben, we use words like possibly, could, maybe

You on the other hand were definitively saying that the "Hammer" WAS going to drop on K-State. 

I could have sworn your former athletic director was caught using private donations for personal expenses. 

mind trick

[Andy]

why would you not care about this?

i can understand not caring if this stuff were going on in the english dept, but the athletic dept seems to be something you follow closely. 

I just don't see much coming out of this.  Rodney Jones is going to prison, along with a few others possibly.  Doesn't change my status as a KU fan.  

Bill Self could murder someone in cold blood out in public right on campus and as long as he was bringing  top 10 classes and hanging banners no kansas fans would care in the least.  and he'd get away with it to.  kansas basketball is the most untouchable institution in America the last 20 years.  really, its worthy of great admiration more for its off court defensive ability than on court.

[doom]

why would you not care about this?

i can understand not caring if this stuff were going on in the english dept, but the athletic dept seems to be something you follow closely. 

I just don't see much coming out of this.  Rodney Jones is going to prison, along with a few others possibly.  Doesn't change my status as vehemently supporting criminal activities.

[Kat Kid]

jaymart, thoughts?

[Cire]

yeah, how many AD's get investigated by the FBI?  and what are the odds that any of this made it back into the hands of a player?

[sonofdaxjones]

Ben, we use words like possibly, could, maybe

You on the other hand were definitively saying that the "Hammer" WAS going to drop on K-State.  

I could have sworn your former athletic director was caught using private donations for personal expenses.  

You mean a loan paid back with interest?? (not a fan of the ethical nature of the deal, but it's not illegal).   

So does the FBI come before or after the hammer drops??

[deputy dawg]

ku fans in my social circle dismiss this investigation as small potatoes.  I'm just trying to figure out what would constitute major corruption if the director of your major fund-raising organ being charged with theft, bank fraud, etc. does not qualify?  Maybe there's so much crooked sh1t going on in the ku athletic dept that they are relieved this is all that's being investigated?

[WillieWatanabe]

Was talking about the situation with a co worker today. The janitor, former ku grad and HUGE fan, overheard us while he was emptying the trash cans and said it would all blow over. Just one rogue person started it and he is now gone.

[CNS]

If the "one rouge person" theory is correct, and all those tickets were diverted by the one rouge person without any other AD employee even noticing, KU will basically be stating that their AD execs are completely incompetent idiots.

Under this theory, you have to think that Lew still gets the ax for running such a sanctuary for morons.

[EMAWzified]

The janitor, former ku grad

There's so much going on here, I don't know where to start.

[deputy dawg]

Was talking about the situation with a co worker today. The janitor, former ku grad and HUGE fan, overheard us while he was emptying the trash cans and said it would all blow over. Just one rogue person started it and he is now gone.

You guys are just being a smarta$$.  ku is so successful and a prodigious fundraiser that hundreds of thousands of $$$ missing is so small, no one COULD notice.

[Andy]

If the "one rouge person" theory is correct, and all those tickets were diverted by the one rouge person without any other AD employee even noticing, KU will basically be stating that their AD execs are completely incompetent idiots.

Under this theory, you have to think that Lew still gets the ax for running such a sanctuary for morons.

hey, mangino didn't know that his assistants were giving out test answers so there is precedent here.

[steve dave]

If the "one rouge person" theory is correct, and all those tickets were diverted by the one rouge person without any other AD employee even noticing, KU will basically be stating that their AD execs are completely incompetent idiots.

Under this theory, you have to think that Lew still gets the ax for running such a sanctuary for morons.

LMAO, Wef's is trying to dupe everyone with that very theory on the Prince contract. 

[CNS]

If the "one rouge person" theory is correct, and all those tickets were diverted by the one rouge person without any other AD employee even noticing, KU will basically be stating that their AD execs are completely incompetent idiots.

Under this theory, you have to think that Lew still gets the ax for running such a sanctuary for morons.

LMAO, Wef's is trying to dupe everyone with that very theory on the Prince contract.  

This is slightly diff.

KU has X seats and no doubt has a mechanism to track who each seat is sold to and how much.  Missing/faking enough of these tickets over a 5-7 yr period, worth hundreds of thou to a few mill, should be something very easy to be detected if it is indeed only one person pulling the strings.

Bad contracts happen all the time.  Negotiators get the best of the guy across the table daily.  Everyone can know that their boss took it in the rear on the contract, and still not be able to do anything about it since it is a binding contract.

Also, Krouse did get the ax.

[steve dave]

If the "one rouge person" theory is correct, and all those tickets were diverted by the one rouge person without any other AD employee even noticing, KU will basically be stating that their AD execs are completely incompetent idiots.

Under this theory, you have to think that Lew still gets the ax for running such a sanctuary for morons.

LMAO, Wef's is trying to dupe everyone with that very theory on the Prince contract.  

This is slightly diff.

KU has X seats and no doubt has a mechanism to track who each seat is sold to and how much.  Missing/faking enough of these tickets over a 5-7 yr period, worth hundreds of thou to a few mill, should be something very easy to be detected if it is indeed only one person pulling the strings.

Bad contracts happen all the time.  Negotiators get the best of the guy across the table daily.  Everyone can know that their boss took it in the rear on the contract, and still not be able to do anything about it since it is a binding contract.

Also, Krouse did get the ax.

LOL, no.  It shows exactly the same if not more incompetence on KSU's part if the lone gunman theory were true (ps. it's not)

[CNS]

If the "one rouge person" theory is correct, and all those tickets were diverted by the one rouge person without any other AD employee even noticing, KU will basically be stating that their AD execs are completely incompetent idiots.

Under this theory, you have to think that Lew still gets the ax for running such a sanctuary for morons.

LMAO, Wef's is trying to dupe everyone with that very theory on the Prince contract.  

This is slightly diff.

KU has X seats and no doubt has a mechanism to track who each seat is sold to and how much.  Missing/faking enough of these tickets over a 5-7 yr period, worth hundreds of thou to a few mill, should be something very easy to be detected if it is indeed only one person pulling the strings.

Bad contracts happen all the time.  Negotiators get the best of the guy across the table daily.  Everyone can know that their boss took it in the rear on the contract, and still not be able to do anything about it since it is a binding contract.

Also, Krouse did get the ax.

LOL, no.  It shows exactly the same if not more incompetence on KSU's part if the lone gunman theory were true (ps. it's not)

I agree that it shows more incompetence on KSU's part, given that ours was definitely a top down issue.  That said, I imagine there is still a whole lot of detail to come out of the KU camp.

[deputy dawg]

True - a LOT more will come out about this ticket deal.  One thing you'll be able to count on is that ku fans will say that this kind of stuff goes on in every athletic dept., or alternatively, our program is so weak that there's no market for black market K-State basketball tickets.  Either way, the fan base at ku will live in denial.

[JMart]

jaymart, thoughts?

It's going to drag on for a while, lots of people slinging mud at others because of the FBI and IRS being involved. And the longer this drags on, there are more chances of something of major significance sticking. Dude I talked to said Lew is prepared for all possibilities, but at the moment, there doesn't seem to be imminent danger.

[Dugout DickStone]

jaymart, thoughts?

It's going to drag on for a while, lots of people slinging mud at others because of the FBI and IRS being involved. And the longer this drags on, there are more chances of something of major significance sticking. Dude I talked to said Lew is prepared for all possibilities, but at the moment, there doesn't seem to be imminent danger.

Lew just put close to $5million of ku money in his personal account, he couldn't give 2 fucks about what occurs next.  As long as he doesn't get jail time...