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EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
« on: September 27, 2015, 03:17:00 PM »
Cats were 36th this week. 

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Chris Murray (Reno Gazette Journal) had the Cats at 20th!  Murray is the frontrunner for AP Voter Stud of the Year.  He's the only voter who has had the Cats on all of his ballots this season. 

Rounding out the studs who voted for the cats are Keith Sargeant of the Asbury Park Press in Neptune, New Jersey, who ranked the Cats 22, and Gary Horowitz of the Statesman Journal out of Salem, Oregon, who ranked the cats at 24.

DUD
Doug Doughty, of the Roanoke (Va.) Times had the Cats at 25th last week, and dropped them to NR.  Stanford and Miami joined his poll this week in lieu of the Cats.

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 03:18:50 PM »
Ty for this thread
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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 03:27:14 PM »
Dlew can you also do Thursday howevers? Tia

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 03:47:03 PM »
Who made the decision to give Dodd Jr. a ballot?  I don't find his writing or his insight via to be very good.


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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2015, 04:32:29 PM »
Dlew can you also do Thursday howevers? Tia
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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2015, 04:36:05 PM »
Dlew can you also do Thursday howevers? Tia
Sure!


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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 07:03:32 PM »
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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 09:02:11 PM »
coaches had us at 28

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2015, 10:21:21 PM »
Can we also talk about the absolute horseshit that is sweaty gary's frogs getting dropped a spot? You can make a pretty solid argument that Ohio State, Michigan State, and Ol Miss all would have lost at Tech on Saturday, unless you think tech is worse than Western Michigan, Central Michigan, and Vandy.

College football polls are the rough ridin' worst. I can't believe that is how this idiotic sport picked it's champion for over 100 years.

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2015, 10:56:37 PM »
There are maybe ten teams in the country the Cats wouldn't have a chance against.  And there are so many mediocre teams it's unreal. Should make for a very exciting season.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 12:07:36 AM »
There are maybe ten teams in the country the Cats wouldn't have a chance against.  And there are so many mediocre teams it's unreal. Should make for a very exciting season.

Yeah. Even the better teams this year are pretty meh overall. There are like 0 dominant teams.
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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2015, 12:31:59 AM »
Can we also talk about the absolute horseshit that is sweaty gary's frogs getting dropped a spot? You can make a pretty solid argument that Ohio State, Michigan State, and Ol Miss all would have lost at Tech on Saturday, unless you think tech is worse than Western Michigan, Central Michigan, and Vandy.

College football polls are the rough ridin' worst. I can't believe that is how this idiotic sport picked it's champion for over 100 years.
i'm really fascinated by AP Polls.  my favorite thing is looking at biases the polls have based on their location.  for example, when we played miami in '11 and '12, the guy from the miami herald always had the Cats ranked relatively higher than the rest of the country.  i think that's really neat.  it also blows my mind how often that must go on. 

man could you imagine how much fun it would be if the coaches' ballot wasn't confidential each week?  i would pay at least $20 a week to see who voted for who.  i still hold a grudge against James Franklin for his final ballot a few years ago.


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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2015, 12:39:50 AM »
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2015, 07:10:19 AM »
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2015, 07:17:48 AM »


I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

There's honestly no way an AP writer can watch enough football, either. Agree the presence of preseason polls totally ruins the process.

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2015, 08:25:59 AM »
i love all the polls, and the pollsters too.  i'm a bit of a pollaholic.
preseason polls are probably the most controversial so it's understandable that some readers of this blog can't handle them (they don't understand them) but even they are valuable in the grand scheme (#pizza) of things.  for every 1 philistine poll basher, i will find you 50 pro-poll supporters who have way more cfb knowledge than their ignorant counterparts.


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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2015, 08:57:20 AM »
I thought this was a decent article on BOTC about why college football polls are useless:

http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/9/24/9389967/college-football-polls-completely-useless

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2015, 09:35:39 AM »
I will enjoy this thread. This post will likely be my last contribution to it, but this thread will be great and I will read it.
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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2015, 03:03:38 PM »
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

Very smart math guys would say you don't need to see one damn play to know who is better.  Just look at results.  The computers never watch a game, but yet they do a pretty incredible job at predicting future outcomes.  You lose the forest for the trees when you watch.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2015, 03:34:22 PM »
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

Very smart math guys would say you don't need to see one damn play to know who is better.  Just look at results.  The computers never watch a game, but yet they do a pretty incredible job at predicting future outcomes.  You lose the forest for the trees when you watch.

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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2015, 08:08:24 AM »
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

Very smart math guys would say you don't need to see one damn play to know who is better.  Just look at results.  The computers never watch a game, but yet they do a pretty incredible job at predicting future outcomes.  You lose the forest for the trees when you watch.
Depends on the computer and the #data it uses.  Also, computers aren't remotely reliable until a certain at least several weeks into conference games because SOS is all caddywampus.  I'll take my personal CFB expertise over some crummy algorithm, if we were to have a john henry vs. the machine competition.
 
But perhaps this is a discussion for another thread.  If we win on Saturday, I'll be very curious to see if #1 EMAW fan Chris Murray catapults (hehehe) us into the top 10, or if Dud Doughty comes crawling back on his hands and knees to beg for forgiveness.


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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2015, 01:41:08 PM »
Who in the eff gave A&M a #1 vote?

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Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2015, 01:43:17 PM »
i have watched zero PAC 12 football, is Utah the real deal?
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