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Title: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on September 27, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
Cats were 36th this week. 

STUDS
Chris Murray (Reno Gazette Journal) had the Cats at 20th!  Murray is the frontrunner for AP Voter Stud of the Year.  He's the only voter who has had the Cats on all of his ballots this season. 

Rounding out the studs who voted for the cats are Keith Sargeant of the Asbury Park Press in Neptune, New Jersey, who ranked the Cats 22, and Gary Horowitz of the Statesman Journal out of Salem, Oregon, who ranked the cats at 24.

DUD
Doug Doughty, of the Roanoke (Va.) Times had the Cats at 25th last week, and dropped them to NR.  Stanford and Miami joined his poll this week in lieu of the Cats.

For more information, visit http://collegepolltracker.com/football/team/ksu/2015 (http://collegepolltracker.com/football/team/ksu/2015).
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
Ty for this thread
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: mocat on September 27, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
Dlew can you also do Thursday howevers? Tia
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: CatMission on September 27, 2015, 03:47:03 PM
Who made the decision to give Dodd Jr. a ballot?  I don't find his writing or his insight via to be very good.


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Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: pissclams on September 27, 2015, 04:32:29 PM
Dlew can you also do Thursday howevers? Tia
:nono:
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on September 27, 2015, 04:36:05 PM
Dlew can you also do Thursday howevers? Tia
Sure!
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2015, 07:03:32 PM
Mifuckingami, GTFO :flush:
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: scottwildcat on September 27, 2015, 09:02:11 PM
coaches had us at 28
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2015, 10:21:21 PM
Can we also talk about the absolute horseshit that is sweaty gary's frogs getting dropped a spot? You can make a pretty solid argument that Ohio State, Michigan State, and Ol Miss all would have lost at Tech on Saturday, unless you think tech is worse than Western Michigan, Central Michigan, and Vandy.

College football polls are the rough ridin' worst. I can't believe that is how this idiotic sport picked it's champion for over 100 years.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 27, 2015, 10:56:37 PM
There are maybe ten teams in the country the Cats wouldn't have a chance against.  And there are so many mediocre teams it's unreal. Should make for a very exciting season.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: cfbandyman on September 28, 2015, 12:07:36 AM
There are maybe ten teams in the country the Cats wouldn't have a chance against.  And there are so many mediocre teams it's unreal. Should make for a very exciting season.

Yeah. Even the better teams this year are pretty meh overall. There are like 0 dominant teams.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on September 28, 2015, 12:31:59 AM
Can we also talk about the absolute horseshit that is sweaty gary's frogs getting dropped a spot? You can make a pretty solid argument that Ohio State, Michigan State, and Ol Miss all would have lost at Tech on Saturday, unless you think tech is worse than Western Michigan, Central Michigan, and Vandy.

College football polls are the rough ridin' worst. I can't believe that is how this idiotic sport picked it's champion for over 100 years.
i'm really fascinated by AP Polls.  my favorite thing is looking at biases the polls have based on their location.  for example, when we played miami in '11 and '12, the guy from the miami herald always had the Cats ranked relatively higher than the rest of the country.  i think that's really neat.  it also blows my mind how often that must go on. 

man could you imagine how much fun it would be if the coaches' ballot wasn't confidential each week?  i would pay at least $20 a week to see who voted for who.  i still hold a grudge against James Franklin for his final ballot a few years ago.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: bones129 on September 28, 2015, 12:39:50 AM
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2015, 07:10:19 AM
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: michigancat on September 28, 2015, 07:17:48 AM


I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

There's honestly no way an AP writer can watch enough football, either. Agree the presence of preseason polls totally ruins the process.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: pissclams on September 28, 2015, 08:25:59 AM
i love all the polls, and the pollsters too.  i'm a bit of a pollaholic.
preseason polls are probably the most controversial so it's understandable that some readers of this blog can't handle them (they don't understand them) but even they are valuable in the grand scheme (#pizza) of things.  for every 1 philistine poll basher, i will find you 50 pro-poll supporters who have way more cfb knowledge than their ignorant counterparts.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: Yard Dog on September 28, 2015, 08:57:20 AM
I thought this was a decent article on BOTC about why college football polls are useless:

http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/9/24/9389967/college-football-polls-completely-useless
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: slobber on September 28, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
I will enjoy this thread. This post will likely be my last contribution to it, but this thread will be great and I will read it.
Amen.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: #LIFE on September 28, 2015, 01:39:20 PM
http://collegepolltracker.com/football/pollster/sam-mckewon/2015/week-5 (http://collegepolltracker.com/football/pollster/sam-mckewon/2015/week-4)
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: Yard Dog on September 28, 2015, 02:21:31 PM
http://collegepolltracker.com/football/pollster/sam-mckewon/2015/week-5 (http://collegepolltracker.com/football/pollster/sam-mckewon/2015/week-4)

That guy seems reallly dumb.

I like this guy better:

http://collegepolltracker.com/football/pollster/chris-murray/2015/week-5
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: Steffy08 on September 28, 2015, 03:03:38 PM
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

Very smart math guys would say you don't need to see one damn play to know who is better.  Just look at results.  The computers never watch a game, but yet they do a pretty incredible job at predicting future outcomes.  You lose the forest for the trees when you watch.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: mocat on September 28, 2015, 03:34:22 PM
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

Very smart math guys would say you don't need to see one damn play to know who is better.  Just look at results.  The computers never watch a game, but yet they do a pretty incredible job at predicting future outcomes.  You lose the forest for the trees when you watch.

this made me lol
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on October 02, 2015, 08:08:24 AM
I've always liked the coach poll more than any other. Give me a reason not to.

Even if the SID is doing the poll for the coach there still is no way that SID is seeing enough football to know what the hell they are talking about. In both polls preseason confirmation bias completely ruins the process.

Very smart math guys would say you don't need to see one damn play to know who is better.  Just look at results.  The computers never watch a game, but yet they do a pretty incredible job at predicting future outcomes.  You lose the forest for the trees when you watch.
Depends on the computer and the #data it uses.  Also, computers aren't remotely reliable until a certain at least several weeks into conference games because SOS is all caddywampus.  I'll take my personal CFB expertise over some crummy algorithm, if we were to have a john henry vs. the machine competition.
 
But perhaps this is a discussion for another thread.  If we win on Saturday, I'll be very curious to see if #1 EMAW fan Chris Murray catapults (hehehe) us into the top 10, or if Dud Doughty comes crawling back on his hands and knees to beg for forgiveness.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2015, 01:41:08 PM
Who in the eff gave A&M a #1 vote?
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
i have watched zero PAC 12 football, is Utah the real deal?
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: MakeItRain on October 04, 2015, 03:03:22 PM
i have watched zero PAC 12 football, is Utah the real deal?

Yeah, they are very good
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 04, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
i have watched zero PAC 12 football, is Utah the real deal?

Yeah, they are very good

Probably the best in the PAC 12 and have a great chance at making the playoff. I'll be pulling for them the rest of the year.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on October 04, 2015, 04:20:26 PM
Who in the eff gave A&M a #1 vote?
That would be Josh Kendall of Columbia, South Carolina's "The State."  His ballot is strange as all get out.  He had A&M unranked int he preseason, then catapulted them ALL THE WAY TO NUMBER 2 following their win against Arizona State the first week of the season.  Your guess is as good as mine.

Other WTF things about Kenall's ballot: He has TCU at number 8, Michigan at 11 (their highest rankings of any ballot), Duke at 20th (their highest ranking), Mississippi State at 21 (their highest ranking).

You can view his entire ballot here: http://collegepolltracker.com/football/pollster/josh-kendall/2015/week-6 (http://collegepolltracker.com/football/pollster/josh-kendall/2015/week-6)
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs and Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on October 04, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Cats were 37th this week. 

STUD :cool:
Chris Murray (Reno Gazette Journal) had the Cats at 25th!  This is his second consecutive APVSOTW award, and Murray is running away AP Voter Stud of the Year.  He continues to be the only voter who has had the Cats on all of his ballots this season. 

There were no other studs who voted for the Cats this week.

DUD:flush:
Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News is this week's AP Voter Dud of the Week.  He has Baylor all the way down to number 10, Michigan at 12, and Oregon at 18.  Tsk tsk, Mr. Wilner. 

I apologize for the oversight on Josh Kendall -- he probably should've been the Dud of the week.  But the decision was already made.  Alas, I have a feeling he'll be featured as a weekly dud throughout this 2015 season.

For more information, visit http://collegepolltracker.com/football/team/ksu/2015.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on October 04, 2015, 04:37:50 PM
In light of Mr. Murray's undying devotion to all things EMAW, I think it is appropriate that we here at gE.c learn more about our friend. 

Chris Murray

(http://collegepolltracker.com/images/pollsters/chris-murray.jpg)

Mr. Murray has been the Reno (Nev.) Gazette-Journal's Nevada Wolf Pack basketball beat writer since 2007 and the newspaper's football beat writer since 2010. He also held the role of assistant sports editor and won multiple APSE and Nevada Press Association awards for feature writing, project writing and explanatory journalism. 

On why he loves writing sports news, Mr. Murray says "I love what sports tell us about ourselves and our community."   Murray continued, "Sports can be inspirational, dramatic, depressing and just plain fun. I tell the story of sports in Northern Nevada. Won’t you come along for the ride?"

I think we, here at this modest blog, can honestly answer, "yes, Mr. Murray.  We'll come along for the ride."
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: wetwillie on October 04, 2015, 04:38:53 PM
has anyone seen Jeffrey Rake and Chris Murray in the same room?
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2015, 06:59:59 PM

i have watched zero PAC 12 football, is Utah the real deal?

they are very good and a treat to watch
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2015, 07:00:32 PM
pac12 football has been a joy to watch this year in general
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 04, 2015, 08:25:18 PM
pac12 football has been a joy to watch this year in general

Possible this becomes the new live blogging event, but I'm out of preparations
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: Tobias on October 04, 2015, 08:26:58 PM
you have until thursday evening to reload.  I'm out of commission for weekend games (wedding!) :love:
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: Trim on November 10, 2019, 11:45:21 AM
I rescind any critique of Tempty’s Rick. Nobody was more in their feelings this past week than Theo Lawson.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: meow meow on November 11, 2019, 08:35:07 AM
nobody, and i mean nobody, was a bigger horn fan this weekend than Theo the Terrible.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2020, 04:51:13 PM
 :bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 29, 2020, 04:23:17 PM
not jealous of our guy DQ having to pick the duddiest dud this week. An absolute murderer's row of duds.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on September 29, 2020, 04:44:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Dlew56/status/1310288833196568580?s=20
https://twitter.com/Dlew56/status/1310288906668191745?s=20
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: ben ji on September 29, 2020, 05:03:14 PM
https://twitter.com/Dlew56/status/1310288833196568580?s=20
https://twitter.com/Dlew56/status/1310288906668191745?s=20

Wow, look at that social media following! 131 and 119 Likes! Just goes to show that EMAW fans love a good algo to follow.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: bucket on September 07, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1435338165372571649
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: michigancat on September 07, 2021, 09:56:20 PM
thank you for your service dlew
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: DQ12 on September 08, 2021, 09:09:25 AM
thank you for your service dlew
It's very easy and fun to do.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: pissclams on September 13, 2021, 04:32:56 PM
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i wasn’t being serious
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: meow meow on September 13, 2021, 04:38:19 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: ben ji on September 13, 2021, 06:03:39 PM
Great work as always Dlew! Studs and Duds is something I look forward to every week when our KSU Fighting Wildcats are playing well.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: wetwillie on September 13, 2021, 06:26:49 PM
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i wasn’t being serious

Pussification of America
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: KITNfury on September 13, 2021, 07:18:48 PM
Not all cliffs are high enough to force death, not to mention ones with water at the bottom.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 14, 2021, 02:18:27 PM
Next time, tell him to safely jump off of a cliff.
Title: Re: EMAW Weekly Poll Watcher (ft. Studs, Duds)
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2021, 08:26:43 PM
Is your timeout over?