It's trite and cliche, but...

[yosh]

...now that the roster is final:

PG: Pullen 32 mins, Myles 5 mins, Spradling 3
SG: McGruder 15, Russell 15, Irving 5, Spradling 5 mins,
SF: Sutton 25 mins, Samuels 10 mins, Southwell 5 mins
PF: Kelly 25 mins, Samuels 15 mins
C/PF2: Judge 20 mins, Asprilla 15 mins, JHR 5 mins

 

['taterblast]

more irving, less spradling

[BEFR]

need me some more 'tay

<grrr, beat me by 15sec>

[michigancat]

our guards are HORRIBLE.  (minus jpullz)  The fact that fans are clamoring for more minutes from Martavious "7-28 in conference play" Irving just shows how brutal it is.

Front court will probably be really good, though.

[PowercatPat]

I think Russell should get more minutes than Irving, but I don't think he will because of Irving's defense.

[michigancat]

MARTAVIOUS'S EFG% IN THE BIG 12 WAS 28.5

[michigancat]

I miss Fred Brown.  Running him off was freaking stupid, Frank.  Terrible.

[The1BigWillie]

Russell is going to bring it strong nest year. You heard it here fist.  Go ahead and save this post. 

Russell will get more minutes than Rodney at the 2 and Rodney will get more minutes than Sutton. 

PG: Pullen 32 mins, Tay 5 mins, Myles 3
SG: Russell 20 mins, McGruder 15 mins,  Tay 5 mins,
SF: Sutton 15 mins, Samuels 15 mins, McGruder 10 mins
PF: Kelly 25 mins, Samuels 10 mins, Judge 5 mins
C/PF2: Judge 20 mins, Asprilla 15 mins, JHR 5 mins

[yosh]

I thought I was generous with Irvings minutes.  

[sys]

I miss Fred Brown.  Running him off was freaking stupid, Frank.  Terrible.

pfft.  didn't fit.

[PowercatPat]

Russell is going to bring it strong nest year. You heard it here fist.  Go ahead and save this post. 

Russell will get more minutes than Rodney at the 2 and Rodney will get more minutes than Sutton. 

PG: Pullen 32 mins, Tay 5 mins, Myles 3
SG: Russell 20 mins, McGruder 15 mins,  Tay 5 mins,
SF: Sutton 15 mins, Samuels 15 mins, McGruder 10 mins
PF: Kelly 25 mins, Samuels 10 mins, Judge 5 mins
C/PF2: Judge 20 mins, Asprilla 15 mins, JHR 5 mins

 

[yosh]

Russell is going to bring it strong nest year. You heard it here fist.  Go ahead and save this post. 

Russell will get more minutes than Rodney at the 2 and Rodney will get more minutes than Sutton. 

PG: Pullen 32 mins, Tay 5 mins, Myles 3
SG: Russell 20 mins, McGruder 15 mins,  Tay 5 mins,
SF: Sutton 15 mins, Samuels 15 mins, McGruder 10 mins
PF: Kelly 25 mins, Samuels 10 mins, Judge 5 mins
C/PF2: Judge 20 mins, Asprilla 15 mins, JHR 5 mins

Redshirting Spradling and Southwell?

[The1BigWillie]

Russell is going to bring it strong nest year. You heard it here fist.  Go ahead and save this post. 

Russell will get more minutes than Rodney at the 2 and Rodney will get more minutes than Sutton. 

PG: Pullen 32 mins, Tay 5 mins, Myles 3
SG: Russell 20 mins, McGruder 15 mins,  Tay 5 mins,
SF: Sutton 15 mins, Samuels 15 mins, McGruder 10 mins
PF: Kelly 25 mins, Samuels 10 mins, Judge 5 mins
C/PF2: Judge 20 mins, Asprilla 15 mins, JHR 5 mins

Redshirting Spradling and Southwell?

Naw, I was just being lazy. Consider this "meaningful game minutes"

[sys]

i gave up on the position minutes as too confusing, so just totals.  noting that pullen still gets lots of minutes off ball.

pullen 33
kelly 25
samuels 23
asprilla 20
judge 20
sutton 19
mcgruder 17
myles 16
russell 14 (right now, i don't know how to choose between myles, russell and spradling, i just know i don't want irving)
spradling 8
irving 5


trying to imagine a world where southwell, jhr and the short walkon pf don't get any minutes.  also hoping that the irving minutes are all at the start of the year and go to spradling and the others later on.

[sys]

our guards are HORRIBLE.  (minus jpullz)  The fact that fans are clamoring for more minutes from Martavious "7-28 in conference play" Irving just shows how brutal it is.

Front court will probably be really good, though.

looking at it like this sort of highlights the elephant on the message board .... expectations are way too high for this team.  unless maybe russell dramatically improves or mcgruder finds a handle.

[Sugar Dick]

our guards are HORRIBLE.  (minus jpullz)  The fact that fans are clamoring for more minutes from Martavious "7-28 in conference play" Irving just shows how brutal it is.

Front court will probably be really good, though.

looking at it like this sort of highlights the elephant on the message board .... expectations are way too high for this team.  unless maybe russell dramatically improves or mcgruder finds a handle.

worrying about how good our guards (3 So, 2 Fr, 1 Canadian) are going to be in 7 months highlights the theme of this thread

[yosh]

our guards are HORRIBLE.  (minus jpullz)  The fact that fans are clamoring for more minutes from Martavious "7-28 in conference play" Irving just shows how brutal it is.

Front court will probably be really good, though.

looking at it like this sort of highlights the elephant on the message board .... expectations are way too high for this team.  unless maybe russell dramatically improves or mcgruder finds a handle.

It's going to be the main offseason talking point (aside from recruiting)

I'm clinging to the hope that Russell just accepted that he wasn't going to get many minutes behind Pullz and Clems and just kinda coasted.  I do think he's way better than he showed.  I think there were glimpes of that very early in the season.  If Russell/McGruder can just be as good as Stewart/Harris (I think they can be better), with the strength at the other positions, I think we will be very good.

[sonofdaxjones]

Well if Frank holds to his "improve or your gone" mantra, we can only assume that Russell has this year to get better, or they'll be another scholarship open after next season.

[Dr Rick Daris]

are these minutes for the season or for big12 games and other games that actually matter? cause if it's for ALL games then i have a feeling everyone is drastically underestimating victor here.

[yosh]

Well if Frank holds to his "improve or your gone" mantra, we can only assume that Russell has this year to get better, or they'll be another scholarship open after next season.

There will most certainly be another scholarship next season.  It's not a question of 'if', it's a question of 'who'.  I just don't see them carrying Russell, McGruder, Irving and Myles into their junior year.  

[gatoveintisiete]

starters
pullen
grudz
sutton
kelly
judge

russell, irving - first guards in
samuels           first big in
asprilla,jhr       for wally and curt

new guys won't see much time

I predict quantam leaps of improvement for wally, jhr,rod,nick, and tay also jamar will be deadly from 3 next year
warm up a banner or two

[Sugar Dick]

I love how we have 3 Rivals 150 guards and everyone over here is like, "our guard f*cking suck and my computer agrees".

BMW, on the other hand, thinks Releford, a guy rated around the same and who redshirted last season, will be the best guy on their team next year.

It's an interesting dynamic of cynicism and unbridled optimism

[canadian_breeze]

starters
pullen
grudz
sutton
kelly
judge

russell, irving - first guards in
samuels           first big in
asprilla,jhr       for wally and curt

new guys won't see much time

I predict quantam leaps of improvement for wally, jhr,rod,nick, and tay also jamar will be deadly from 3 next year
warm up a banner or two

if we are talking about starters, i dont see rod starting at the 2....

 a) he's too tall to play Martin's 2      and b) too good of a shooter

hes a three in my eyes

[steve dave]

You guys remember when I was calling for Martavious' to be kicked off the team all season?  yeah....

[raquetcat]

I'm gonna spew some lbiq here and say that the college game is all about the guards, look who won the tourney (maybe the best guard duo in the country), are big guys are gonna be good, but it doesn't help if our guards can't get them the ball or at least give them the chance for put backs