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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #375 on: June 21, 2022, 05:32:37 PM »
The entire NASA budget would be approximately .0004% of the South/Texas total GDP.




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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #376 on: June 21, 2022, 07:04:45 PM »
If there any good civil engineers on this board, really just need to figure out how to tilt Texas toward Mexico at about a 4% grade and you’ll never hear from Greg Abbott again

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #377 on: June 22, 2022, 09:47:30 AM »
Texas tax revenue is about $250 billion, NASA's budget is $23 billion.  Texas cannot keep their electricity on.  They don't have the money to spend 10% of their income on a space program

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« Reply #378 on: June 22, 2022, 10:17:34 AM »
But how many nukes does Texas have?  That's the real question.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #379 on: June 22, 2022, 10:24:58 AM »
But how many nukes does Texas have?  That's the real question.

Lol the lights go out when it gets over 95.  They can’t do that

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #380 on: June 22, 2022, 10:36:55 AM »
The Confederate States of America was a gigantic failure of a country even apart from losing the war. Super corrupt, stupid, and poor.

Same thing you'd get today in a MAGA run country imo.

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« Reply #381 on: June 22, 2022, 10:42:18 AM »
The Confederate States of America was a gigantic failure of a country even apart from losing the war. Super corrupt, stupid, and poor.

Same thing you'd get today in a MAGA run country imo.

They were very addicted to losing

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #382 on: June 22, 2022, 11:18:07 AM »
Yes, Rust Belt and near Rest Belt states and cities, flat line population growth in many (some bordering on net population loss), substantial upper income egress in major population centers, but still the pinnacle of moral and ethical behavior.   :thumbsup:




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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #383 on: June 22, 2022, 11:20:18 AM »
Texas tax revenue is about $250 billion, NASA's budget is $23 billion.  Texas cannot keep their electricity on.  They don't have the money to spend 10% of their income on a space program

Continually showing that you can't follow along with anything.   :thumbsup:

Texas GDP 2021:  $2 Trillion

So now you've unilaterally decided that Texas would be its own country?




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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #384 on: June 22, 2022, 12:46:14 PM »
You’re struggling pretty badly today.  Texas doesn’t have the $23 billion.  Plain and simple.  Sorry, sucks to suck

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #385 on: June 22, 2022, 02:16:38 PM »
I'm going to take these affronts against my state personally and throw a huge fit.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #386 on: June 22, 2022, 02:49:39 PM »
So just to be clear, #slowdug has taken the country of the South, which includes Texas and now just made it just Texas.

#slowdug has now taken the whole of NASA and made it only for Texas.

In breaking up the United States the new countries get the current Federal facilities and resources that lie within its borders.  Nothing more.  So in the case of NASA all NASA facilities outside of the New South go to other countries. 

The New South has a GDP of around $4 to $5 trillion.   Which would make it around 4th to 7th in the world depending how the other countries were broken up. 

Militarily the new South would only lack in two areas, land based ICBM's and global naval power projection.   Massive ground, airborne and armor forces, massive rotary assets, a strategic bomber force, nuclear subs, a substantial tactical air force, substantial logistics and support, a solid regional waters Navy and geographically diverse facilities. 





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« Reply #387 on: June 22, 2022, 02:56:46 PM »
So just to be clear, #slowdug has taken the country of the South, which includes Texas and now just made it just Texas.

#slowdug has now taken the whole of NASA and made it only for Texas.

In breaking up the United States the new countries get the current Federal facilities and resources that lie within its borders.  Nothing more.  So in the case of NASA all NASA facilities outside of the New South go to other countries. 

The New South has a GDP of around $4 to $5 trillion.   Which would make it around 4th to 7th in the world depending how the other countries were broken up. 

Militarily the new South would only lack in two areas, land based ICBM's and global naval power projection.   Massive ground, airborne and armor forces, massive rotary assets, a strategic bomber force, nuclear subs, a substantial tactical air force, substantial logistics and support, a solid regional waters Navy and geographically diverse facilities.

List the states in this new country and lets see if they can fund NASA.  This will be very, very easy to calculate.  The vast majority of the deep south are significant net leeches from the fed so any budget adjustment will have to remove those handouts they get when they go begging with hat in hand in DC.

I guess we can play along with leaving the federal facilities that these losers couldn't build without BIG GOV.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #388 on: June 22, 2022, 02:57:52 PM »
Texas is the only one that can legally secede.

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« Reply #389 on: June 22, 2022, 02:58:54 PM »
Texas is the only one that can legally secede.

It doesn't get to keep the NASA facilities then.

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #390 on: June 22, 2022, 03:01:55 PM »
NASA’s a US agency. No territory/country gets it based on geography. It’s an asset that would be dealt with in the amicable divorce.

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« Reply #391 on: June 22, 2022, 03:14:01 PM »
Oh there is not doubt that a non-idiot recognizes that.  But if you take Houston NASA facilities from Houston and FL those states a pud AF.  I suspect dax thinks Missouri gets to take Whiteman and its B-2's also. 

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #392 on: June 22, 2022, 03:40:30 PM »
I think there would be a pretty substantial level of migration away from the new Confederacy before it would be able to ratify a constitution and prevent its people from leaving.

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« Reply #393 on: June 22, 2022, 03:41:54 PM »
 :lol: :lol:

You're breaking up the United States, chief.  What part of that is confusing to you?  That means the Federal Government of the United States of America and all of it's various agencies and mechanisms don't exist anymore.  Whomever gets the district of Columbia and Virginia can take all of NASA's beltway blot and make it part of their own budget if they want to. 

It's positively laughable that the new countries formed would allow some other entity to control the former United States of America facilities within it's own territory.

Trying to use a state budget analogy in this context is just  :lol: :lol:

The New South has a GDP of $4 to $5 Trillion Dollars. 


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« Reply #394 on: June 22, 2022, 03:43:51 PM »
I think there would be a pretty substantial level of migration away from the new Confederacy before it would be able to ratify a constitution and prevent its people from leaving.

And move back to the regions they couldn't wait to get the hell out of, and in most cases have sworn they'll never go back to again??   :lol:

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« Reply #395 on: June 22, 2022, 03:48:01 PM »
:lol: :lol:

You're breaking up the United States, chief.  What part of that is confusing to you?  That means the Federal Government of the United States of America and all of it's various agencies and mechanisms don't exist anymore.  Whomever gets the district of Columbia and Virginia can take all of NASA's beltway blot and make it part of their own budget if they want to. 

It's positively laughable that the new countries formed would allow some other entity to control the former United States of America facilities within it's own territory.

Trying to use a state budget analogy in this context is just  :lol: :lol:

The New South has a GDP of $4 to $5 Trillion Dollars.

Which
States

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« Reply #396 on: June 22, 2022, 03:50:33 PM »
:lol: :lol:

You're breaking up the United States, chief.  What part of that is confusing to you?  That means the Federal Government of the United States of America and all of it's various agencies and mechanisms don't exist anymore.  Whomever gets the district of Columbia and Virginia can take all of NASA's beltway blot and make it part of their own budget if they want to. 

It's positively laughable that the new countries formed would allow some other entity to control the former United States of America facilities within it's own territory.

Trying to use a state budget analogy in this context is just  :lol: :lol:

The New South has a GDP of $4 to $5 Trillion Dollars.

Which
States

Only showing again that you can't follow along with anything.

Texas and Florida alone puts the New South over $3 Trillion, add in North Carolina and that's another $600 Billion in GDP right there.


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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #397 on: June 22, 2022, 03:57:35 PM »
Talking to super old people gets kind of frustrating.

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« Reply #398 on: June 22, 2022, 04:00:58 PM »
Talking to super old people gets kind of frustrating.

Dealing with the #slowdugs of the world while frustrating is mostly filled  :lol: because of the level of derp

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Re: Breaking up the United States
« Reply #399 on: June 22, 2022, 06:55:41 PM »
I think there would be a pretty substantial level of migration away from the new Confederacy before it would be able to ratify a constitution and prevent its people from leaving.

Yes. Sadly, I've spent some time the last few days planning my exit if this scenario happened.