Breaking up the United States

[Pete]

I dont have an affinity for the south at all.  I guess the Florida Keys.

@Pete re: fave part of SEC question

Exactly!  Let's just let them leave and then we can all move on!  You won't even miss them.  I promise.

[Pete]

i like the idea of adding canada, mexico and the eu.

What about merely joining the EU in a member state that is formerly part of the U.S.?  I am OK with that.

[Asteriskhead]

The Confederate flag crowd got me really thinking about this.  I merely thought, maybe they are right.  Maybe we don't belong together.

1850s America needed gE.

This is probably too complicated now.

let's just find a few thousand more ethical people and we'll interview every potential migrant from the dumbass region prior to admission.

[Pete]

I like living here, Pete. I wouldn't mind living in MHK again. Why take those options away?

It wouldn't HAVE to be taken away.

I'm a nonbeliever and fairly liberal and sometimes outspoken about it. I also don't own a gun. I also live in a city that the rest of Texas resents the hell out of and the legislature tries to crap on it every chance it gets. You can understand how this would make me uncomfortable.

The Lawrence Kansas of Texas.  Yes, I know that feeling.

[Spracne]

I dont have an affinity for the south at all.  I guess the Florida Keys.

@Pete re: fave part of SEC question

Exactly!  Let's just let them leave and then we can all move on!  You won't even miss them.  I promise.

I believe in the status quo.  Liberals need conservatives to balance out their ideas, and vice versa.  Again, tension is a good thing. when all else fails, let the Judicial deliver change like a lightning bolt of justice.  I like our current setup. 

[Pete]

OK, I need to turn in for the night, but I still desire to stay up and solve this problem.  Can I trust you guys to work out how we can break off part(s) of the country into a euro zone Pete friendly area until I wake up tomorrow?

[Trim]

The Confederate flag crowd got me really thinking about this.  I merely thought, maybe they are right.  Maybe we don't belong together.

1850s America needed gE.

This is probably too complicated now.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall." 

Adding/merging seems a lot easier than splitting.

An area would have to be sure it could be self-sufficient, or could at least get by without its former U.S.-mates, and that area could initiate the process.

You should get that WV Dude involved with this.

[Pete]

I dont have an affinity for the south at all.  I guess the Florida Keys.

@Pete re: fave part of SEC question

Exactly!  Let's just let them leave and then we can all move on!  You won't even miss them.  I promise.

I believe in the status quo.  Liberals need conservatives to balance out their ideas, and vice versa.  Again, tension is a good thing. when all else fails, let the Judicial deliver change like a lightning bolt of justice.  I like our current setup.

All across Red states they are decrying the "un-elected judiciary."  You are advocating ideas that are hated most by the people you want to keep close.  There will always be differing ideas in a Society that has aligned cultural values.  Sweden does just fine, for example.  Canada too.

[Pete]

The Confederate flag crowd got me really thinking about this.  I merely thought, maybe they are right.  Maybe we don't belong together.

1850s America needed gE.

This is probably too complicated now.

"Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall." 

Adding/merging seems a lot easier than splitting.

An area would have to be sure it could be self-sufficient, or could at least get by without its former U.S.-mates, and that area could initiate the process.

You should get that WV Dude involved with this.

I think the south thinks it can do that.  I vote we just let them be the guinea pig.  If it works, then let NV, NM, AZ, etc knock themselves out.

[Spracne]

I dont have an affinity for the south at all.  I guess the Florida Keys.

@Pete re: fave part of SEC question

Exactly!  Let's just let them leave and then we can all move on!  You won't even miss them.  I promise.

I believe in the status quo.  Liberals need conservatives to balance out their ideas, and vice versa.  Again, tension is a good thing. when all else fails, let the Judicial deliver change like a lightning bolt of justice.  I like our current setup.

All across Red states they are decrying the "un-elected judiciary."  You are advocating ideas that are hated most by the people you want to keep close.  There will always be differing ideas in a Society that has aligned cultural values.  Sweden does just fine, for example.  Canada too.

Pete, it hurts me to say this, but it sounds like you're talking out of your behind

[Pete]

Am I?  Do we not have confederate flags flying across vast portions of this country, and an entire political party rallied by the actions of what they are calling an unjust judiciary?  Seems like they want out. 

[Pete]

If we let the south go, maybe we regret it, maybe we don't.  The only thing that would be certain is that they would be gone, and that is a big win!

Seriously, work out the details, the devil is in those parts.  I will check in later.

[Spracne]

I must have missed the credible overtures of secession.  Also, stop insinuating I am a Southerner.  I will fight you.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think I'd take a long hard look at moving to Alaska in this scenario. I'm just not sure I'm man enough to handle the winters.

[michigancat]

I dont have an affinity for the south at all.  I guess the Florida Keys.

@Pete re: fave part of SEC question

Exactly!  Let's just let them leave and then we can all move on!  You won't even miss them.  I promise.

I believe in the status quo.  Liberals need conservatives to balance out their ideas, and vice versa.  Again, tension is a good thing. when all else fails, let the Judicial deliver change like a lightning bolt of justice.  I like our current setup.

There will always be tension among politics. I mean San Francisco politics is ridiculously contentious considering everyone is basically a flaming liberal. For example.

[Dugout DickStone]

I want to live underground

Well duh

[Pete]

I want to live underground

Well duh

You guys are ruling out CHUD's?  I suppose we cannot live our lives in fear.

[steve dave]

The Cool Kids: CA, OR, WA, HI

Brownbackistan: KS, OK, NE, MO, IA, ND, SD, AR

Texas: Texas

Desertville: NM, AZ, NV (gambling and retirees from brownbackistan.)

Bears: CO  , WY, ID, MT, UT (CO wants to be with the cool kids but geography, you know?)

Lakesantonio: MN, IL, WI, MI, IN, OH (PA should probably go here but it would cut off some states from the NE so they don't)

Racistville: LA, MS, AL, GA, SC, NC, VA, FL, TN, KY, WV

The Part With People: All the tiny/NE states, plus NY and PA. also DC.

New Russia: Alaska

[puniraptor]

Did Utah ascend into heaven or should it go with the bears?

[steve dave]

Did Utah ascend into heaven or should it go with the bears?

BEARS!

[Tobias]

(sorry, new russia & 1/4 cool kids)

[star seed 7]

I think most southerners like Spracne and 42 know that their country would look like Afghanistan within a few years if there was a split so they just talk big but don't actually want to leave

[Dugout DickStone]

The south is way too dependent on the federal gov.  Would crumble

[star seed 7]

I think bears would be a surprisingly pleasant place to live

[Asteriskhead]

i'm moving to bears.