The Trump Candidacy

[CNS]

Would Trump's election shake global confidence in the USA, economically?

You have to be very aware of ppl that are unpredictable.  It would effect all our relationships(good and bad) at least a little.

Again, Brittan has been mulling over actually banning Trump from entering their country for about a year now.  That is the guy that is about to be elected the actual leader of our country.  One that is seen at that level by one of our greatest allies.

[wetwillie]

I originally thought I could stomach voting trump over Hilary because I thought Trump was just posturing and would basically turn out to be a moderate in the general.  I'm not so sure anymore what exactly he will actually do which means I just can't do it even knowing how awful Hilary is.

[CNS]

I hate the idea of the Repubs brokering a convention. It feels like it takes the ppl out of the system to me.  However, you almost have to hope for the ppl to be taken out of the system if they want a Trump.  I mean, I don't, but still.  WTF is going on anymore?

[catastrophe]

If this makes it to a brokered convention, the scenario in my mind is saying "ok Trump supporters, good for you but you're not Republicans. Just go make your own party and GTFO."

[catastrophe]

Also, when most people are registered as independents why is it such a given that a 3rd party candidate has no chance? It's like the people already don't have a voice or at least they think they don't.

[8manpick]

I hate the idea of the Repubs brokering a convention. It feels like it takes the ppl out of the system to me.  However, you almost have to hope for the ppl to be taken out of the system if they want a Trump.  I mean, I don't, but still.  WTF is going on anymore?

But isn't the real "system" just the general election?  We have contested primaries, but is there really anything stopping a party from picking one candidate from the start?

[CNS]

Also, when most people are registered as independents why is it such a given that a 3rd party candidate has no chance? It's like the people already don't have a voice or at least they think they don't.

Money

Until a third party starts earning the way the d's and r's do, they have no chance.

[catastrophe]

Also, when most people are registered as independents why is it such a given that a 3rd party candidate has no chance? It's like the people already don't have a voice or at least they think they don't.

Money

Until a third party starts earning the way the d's and r's do, they have no chance.

Bernie Sanders raised money by getting like a million donations of $27 each. The only reason a third party couldn't do the same is because there is some kind of mass hysteria among the public who think a third party cannot raise money or otherwise have a chance to win.

You could literally have 10-20 million people who would consider donating to/ voting for a guy like Gary Johnson but don't do it because they are afraid of throwing their vote/money away.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I originally thought I could stomach voting trump over Hilary because I thought Trump was just posturing and would basically turn out to be a moderate in the general.  I'm not so sure anymore what exactly he will actually do which means I just can't do it even knowing how awful Hilary is.

A critical analysis of hill makes me wonder if your preconceptions are correct. There is a large public record of hill taking the exact opposite pozition on literally every issue she is currently planking on, with some of these switcheroos rather fresh.  Common sense would dictate that she is also highly unpredictable.

While the Donald certainly seems volatile, I wonder if his actual business practices may indicate a more consistent and predictable behavior pattern. Perhaps he is the candidate that affords more certainty.

This is truly a hobson's choice.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Also, when most people are registered as independents why is it such a given that a 3rd party candidate has no chance? It's like the people already don't have a voice or at least they think they don't.

Money

Until a third party starts earning the way the d's and r's do, they have no chance.

Bernie Sanders raised money by getting like a million donations of $27 each. The only reason a third party couldn't do the same is because there is some kind of mass hysteria among the public who think a third party cannot raise money or otherwise have a chance to win.

You could literally have 10-20 million people who would consider donating to/ voting for a guy like Gary Johnson but don't do it because they are afraid of throwing their vote/money away.

Buy a calculator, bro

[CNS]

Also, when most people are registered as independents why is it such a given that a 3rd party candidate has no chance? It's like the people already don't have a voice or at least they think they don't.

Money

Until a third party starts earning the way the d's and r's do, they have no chance.

Bernie Sanders raised money by getting like a million donations of $27 each. The only reason a third party couldn't do the same is because there is some kind of mass hysteria among the public who think a third party cannot raise money or otherwise have a chance to win.

You could literally have 10-20 million people who would consider donating to/ voting for a guy like Gary Johnson but don't do it because they are afraid of throwing their vote/money away.

That is a small amt of the money.  The PAC money is huge.

[chuckjames]

Also, when most people are registered as independents why is it such a given that a 3rd party candidate has no chance? It's like the people already don't have a voice or at least they think they don't.

Money

Until a third party starts earning the way the d's and r's do, they have no chance.

Bernie Sanders raised money by getting like a million donations of $27 each. The only reason a third party couldn't do the same is because there is some kind of mass hysteria among the public who think a third party cannot raise money or otherwise have a chance to win.

You could literally have 10-20 million people who would consider donating to/ voting for a guy like Gary Johnson but don't do it because they are afraid of throwing their vote/money away.

That is a small amt of the money.  The PAC money is huge.

Yea the Ds are gonna spend in the range of a One Billion dollars (Dr. Evil voice). The party apparatus is also huge for getting out vote and such.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If this makes it to a brokered convention, the scenario in my mind is saying "ok Trump supporters, good for you but you're not Republicans. Just go make your own party and GTFO."

Yeah, and hopefully that would happen. The republican party is better off without Trump and his supporters.

[catastrophe]

$270 to $500 million would be a pretty decent amount of private money, and I don't see why an independent candidate would necessarily not have the support of any super PACs or other businesses.

[gatoveintisiete]

Lot of uneasiness in the pit this morning 

[MakeItRain]

Gonna be sad when all the lemmings line up for HFP2016 who is every bit as unelectable as Trump if not more so.

things a mindless partisan says

[catastrophe]

Hillary seems pretty predictable IMO. She's going to walk the party line and create waste by enriching herself and her friends in the process. Basically, politician stuff. With Trump I literally don't know if he is going to start a war with Mexico on day 1 or if he is going to start it on day 15.

[wetwillie]

Agreed,  he's too unpredictable. 

[420seriouscat69]

Let's restart this bitch. We get Colin Powell and you guys can take Biden. 

[chuckjames]

Let's restart this bitch. We get Colin Powell and you guys can take Biden. 

Nah..we will take a Trump v Hillary and let the cards fall where they do.

[sys]

That is a small amt of the money.  The PAC money is huge.

trump & sanders, if nothing else, have proven that you don't need enormous quantities of money to run for national political office.  and that having enormous quantities of money is not an insurmountable advantage.

[CNS]

That is a small amt of the money.  The PAC money is huge.

trump & sanders, if nothing else, have proven that you don't need enormous quantities of money to run for national political office.  and that having enormous quantities of money is not an insurmountable advantage.

To a certain extent.  I would imagine that most of the money that will be spent in this campaign has yet to be spent, though.

[wetwillie]

Twitter and Facebook have allowed candidates to circumvent traditional media and speak directly to the people.

[CNS]

Twitter and Facebook have allowed candidates to circumvent traditional media and speak directly to the people.

Both existed last pres election and yet a record was set on money spent.   

[sys]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-voters-aversion-to-foreign-sounding-names-cost-him-delegates/