Author Topic: The Trump Candidacy (Read 444441 times)

michigancat · « **Reply #1825 on:** March 04, 2016, 05:07:48 PM »

Yes, I think solitary confinement and sleep deprivation are psychological torture and despicable. Threatening torture, although wrong, is not torture.

Regarding the wall: It has basically been a Republican goal and talking point for years. Trump is just a loudmouth about it.

Why is going after civilians directly significantly worse than targeting combatants' private homes where their families live? (something Obama has definitely done and/or is currently doing)

steve dave · « **Reply #1826 on:** March 04, 2016, 06:16:26 PM »

I don't want to make any of those decisions. But I'd be willing to if the other option was Donald trump making them.

michigancat · « **Reply #1827 on:** March 04, 2016, 06:25:42 PM »

Quote from: memphis on March 04, 2016, 05:21:34 PM

We can agree to disagree that the decision to risk/kill non-combatants along with combatants due to actionable intelligence is different than collecting intelligence on people who associate with combatants and killing them for that association.

That's fair, can we at least agree that going from one to the next isn't exactly a major leap? Once you've decided it's totally acceptable to kill someone simply for being around someone we decide is a bad guy, explicitly targeting innocents seems like an easy decision to make if you think it will be effective. I wouldn't be surprised if it's already been done.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #1828 on:** March 04, 2016, 07:15:28 PM »

The wall has been talked about and championed by fringe elements of the Republican Party. Donald is the first major candidate that I'm aware of who thought it was a good idea.

michigancat · « **Reply #1829 on:** March 04, 2016, 08:07:03 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 04, 2016, 07:15:28 PM

The wall has been talked about and championed by fringe elements of the Republican Party. Donald is the first major candidate that I'm aware of who thought it was a good idea.

How is the "wall" significantly different from this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

CNS · « **Reply #1830 on:** March 04, 2016, 08:09:01 PM »

40' or 50' tall.

CNS · « **Reply #1831 on:** March 04, 2016, 08:26:26 PM »

He flipped on going after family members today.

wetwillie · « **Reply #1832 on:** March 04, 2016, 08:27:46 PM »

He flipped on asking the military to commit illegal war crimes.

CNS · « **Reply #1833 on:** March 04, 2016, 08:29:45 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 04, 2016, 08:27:46 PM

He flipped on asking the military to commit illegal war crimes.

He knows how to lead. If he told them to do it, it would be done. There is no asking.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #1834 on:** March 04, 2016, 09:27:57 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 04, 2016, 08:07:03 PM

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 04, 2016, 07:15:28 PM
The wall has been talked about and championed by fringe elements of the Republican Party. Donald is the first major candidate that I'm aware of who thought it was a good idea.
How is the "wall" significantly different from this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

Trump's wall is 3 times as long and covers ground a whole lot further from any cities. That makes it much more expensive to build and a whole lot less effective.

wetwillie · « **Reply #1835 on:** March 04, 2016, 09:32:29 PM »

we will easily cover the cost of the wall with advertisements on it.

CNS · « **Reply #1836 on:** March 04, 2016, 09:34:53 PM »

Yes. The coyote ads alone on the mx side will pay for it.

steve dave · « **Reply #1837 on:** March 04, 2016, 11:04:48 PM »

Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 04, 2016, 09:27:57 PM

Quote from: michigancat on March 04, 2016, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on March 04, 2016, 07:15:28 PM
The wall has been talked about and championed by fringe elements of the Republican Party. Donald is the first major candidate that I'm aware of who thought it was a good idea.
How is the "wall" significantly different from this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

Trump's wall is 3 times as long and covers ground a whole lot further from any cities. That makes it much more expensive to build and a whole lot less effective.

it's not even in the same wall ball park. I don't think our friend SANFRANCISCOcat has even thought about the wall.

stunted · « **Reply #1838 on:** March 05, 2016, 04:29:39 AM »

steve dave · « **Reply #1839 on:** March 05, 2016, 07:36:09 AM »

I legit would vote for trump over Cruz

Tobias · « **Reply #1840 on:** March 05, 2016, 07:39:41 AM »

wetwillie · « **Reply #1841 on:** March 05, 2016, 07:47:34 AM »

Rubio is nearly as distasteful if we are being honest. Kasich is our George W Obama clone that we want.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #1842 on:** March 05, 2016, 08:42:17 AM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 05, 2016, 07:47:34 AM

Rubio is nearly as distasteful if we are being honest. Kasich is our George W Obama clone that we want.

catastrophe · « **Reply #1843 on:** March 05, 2016, 09:04:21 AM »

Yea Rubio dropped like a rock for me as soon as he started trying his best Trump impression.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #1844 on:** March 05, 2016, 10:58:24 AM »

I'm not saying Trump will win Kansas - probably Cruz - but Trump is going to win the nomination and the presidency. These kinds of crowds are Obama 08 all over again.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #1845 on:** March 05, 2016, 11:06:27 AM »

I'm pretty sure I saw this guy at the caucus today.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #1846 on:** March 05, 2016, 11:07:52 AM »

Need more bumper stickers like these.

CNS · « **Reply #1847 on:** March 05, 2016, 11:11:06 AM »

chuckjames · « **Reply #1848 on:** March 05, 2016, 03:33:04 PM »

I saw a 'shopped Trump bumper sticker that said. Trump 2016: eff Me, No eff You. I found it humorous.

mocat · « **Reply #1849 on:** March 05, 2016, 04:02:53 PM »

Ksuw types need to find a new way to say crony capitalism, because it turns people off immediately and makes you sound like a weirdo