The Trump Candidacy

[CNS]

the entire idea of the wall is so amazingly absurd. I'm posting this here instead of the wall thread because I don't want to ruin the awesome stuff the wall thread has going on.

And the wall isn't even number 1 most absurd thing as far as his immigration plan is concerned.  I think that distinction belongs to his plan to round up the illegals like we're the damn brownshirts and ship them south.

Yeah he's not actually going to do that. This is probably what he told the NYT off the record and it's why he refuses to authorize the NYT to release the audio.

It's also why, as a politician, you should never treat off the record interviews like their actually off the record.

He said pretty clearly last night that he still isn't a politician. 

[KCFDcat]

Yesterday I learned that a close friend of mine is starting to become a trump supporter. I'm very upset

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Yesterday I learned that a close friend of mine is starting to become a trump supporter. I'm very upset

They're all around us. A number of people in my neighborhood are Trump supporters. These are reasonably intelligent, successful people. The best I can figure, they don't follow politics closely enough to understand how phony he is, and they're kinda going with a "burn it all down" mentality.

Or as Lib7 would say - they're obviously yuuuge racists.

[star seed 7]

It's obviously the first thing you should look into when you learn someone is a trump supporter

[KCFDcat]

Yesterday I learned that a close friend of mine is starting to become a trump supporter. I'm very upset

They're all around us. A number of people in my neighborhood are Trump supporters. These are reasonably intelligent, successful people. The best I can figure, they don't follow politics closely enough to understand how phony he is, and they're kinda going with a "burn it all down" mentality.

Or as Lib7 would say - they're obviously yuuuge racists.

This dude follows politics, but is a libertarian/just wants a shakeup in DC. Thinks trump is the only candidate that will deliver that. Funny thing is he still somewhat likes Bernie too.

[Rage Against the McKee]

That guy isn't much of a libertarian, then.

[Mrs. Gooch]

Can someone just compile a video of Trump saying incredibly vulgar things so that I can send it to my very Christian mother?

[michigancat]

You guys should read that Intercept piece. He's basically taking Republican policy just one step further while speaking without a filter. When you think about it, it's amazing people are so scared of what he would do.

[michigancat]

Which of his policies are crazy to the republican party?

Build a wall to keep out illegals?

Starting unnecessary wars?

Torturing prisoners of war?

Killing the families of suspected terrorists?

I mean, Obama pretty much does all of that crap, just a lightweight version.

[sys]

You guys should read that Intercept piece. He's basically taking Republican policy just one step further while speaking without a filter. When you think about it, it's amazing people are so scared of what he would do.

i read it.  i don't think there is anything amazing about party leaders seeing some uncontrollable populist running hog wild on themes that they carefully exploited to get votes they otherwise may not have been able to gather and being scared by it.

[catastrophe]

The establishment doesn't hate Trump because he is an extremist or "tells it like it is." He has always done that. The establishment hates Trump because he is starting to make a huge number of people wonder whether they are even Republicans anymore.

[michigancat]

You guys should read that Intercept piece. He's basically taking Republican policy just one step further while speaking without a filter. When you think about it, it's amazing people are so scared of what he would do.

i read it.  i don't think there is anything amazing about party leaders seeing some uncontrollable populist running hog wild on themes that they carefully exploited to get votes they otherwise may not have been able to gather and being scared by it.

I'm thinking more of the average republican voter that is seemingly repulsed at Trump. It's what they've been voting for.

I understand why party leadership is acting repulsed.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Can someone just compile a video of Trump saying incredibly vulgar things so that I can send it to my very Christian mother?

Just have her follow him on twitter.

[catastrophe]

You guys should read that Intercept piece. He's basically taking Republican policy just one step further while speaking without a filter. When you think about it, it's amazing people are so scared of what he would do.

i read it.  i don't think there is anything amazing about party leaders seeing some uncontrollable populist running hog wild on themes that they carefully exploited to get votes they otherwise may not have been able to gather and being scared by it.

I'm thinking more of the average republican voter that is seemingly repulsed at Trump. It's what they've been voting for.

I understand why party leadership is acting repulsed.

I'm assuming you are trying to make a subtle dig regarding the perceived intelligence/ decency of a typical Republican voter.

I think there are plenty of reasons to not like Trump even if most of his policy proposals follow the party line.  He shows a fundamental misunderstanding of a lot of the things he talks about, he lies constantly about things that are easily proven false, and he regularly makes rude and insulting comments often without any provocation.

[michigancat]

You guys should read that Intercept piece. He's basically taking Republican policy just one step further while speaking without a filter. When you think about it, it's amazing people are so scared of what he would do.

i read it.  i don't think there is anything amazing about party leaders seeing some uncontrollable populist running hog wild on themes that they carefully exploited to get votes they otherwise may not have been able to gather and being scared by it.

I'm thinking more of the average republican voter that is seemingly repulsed at Trump. It's what they've been voting for.

I understand why party leadership is acting repulsed.

I'm assuming you are trying to make a subtle dig regarding the perceived intelligence/ decency of a typical Republican voter.

I think there are plenty of reasons to not like Trump even if most of his policy proposals follow the party line.  He shows a fundamental misunderstanding of a lot of the things he talks about, he lies constantly about things that are easily proven false, and he regularly makes rude and insulting comments often without any provocation.

It's a dig at the republican platform, for sure.

So #nevertrump, to you, is mostly about him being a rude liar?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Which of his policies are crazy to the republican party?

Build a wall to keep out illegals?

Starting unnecessary wars?

Torturing prisoners of war?

Killing the families of suspected terrorists?

I mean, Obama pretty much does all of that crap, just a lightweight version.

I only vote for RINOs, though.

[catastrophe]

You guys should read that Intercept piece. He's basically taking Republican policy just one step further while speaking without a filter. When you think about it, it's amazing people are so scared of what he would do.

i read it.  i don't think there is anything amazing about party leaders seeing some uncontrollable populist running hog wild on themes that they carefully exploited to get votes they otherwise may not have been able to gather and being scared by it.

I'm thinking more of the average republican voter that is seemingly repulsed at Trump. It's what they've been voting for.

I understand why party leadership is acting repulsed.

I'm assuming you are trying to make a subtle dig regarding the perceived intelligence/ decency of a typical Republican voter.

I think there are plenty of reasons to not like Trump even if most of his policy proposals follow the party line.  He shows a fundamental misunderstanding of a lot of the things he talks about, he lies constantly about things that are easily proven false, and he regularly makes rude and insulting comments often without any provocation.

It's a dig at the republican platform, for sure.

So #nevertrump, to you, is mostly about him being a rude liar?

I would just say more broadly it is about being a horrible representative of what the party stands for. It is alienating to a bunch of people, not just the hard core establishment.

[michigancat]

You guys should read that Intercept piece. He's basically taking Republican policy just one step further while speaking without a filter. When you think about it, it's amazing people are so scared of what he would do.

i read it.  i don't think there is anything amazing about party leaders seeing some uncontrollable populist running hog wild on themes that they carefully exploited to get votes they otherwise may not have been able to gather and being scared by it.

I'm thinking more of the average republican voter that is seemingly repulsed at Trump. It's what they've been voting for.

I understand why party leadership is acting repulsed.

I'm assuming you are trying to make a subtle dig regarding the perceived intelligence/ decency of a typical Republican voter.

I think there are plenty of reasons to not like Trump even if most of his policy proposals follow the party line.  He shows a fundamental misunderstanding of a lot of the things he talks about, he lies constantly about things that are easily proven false, and he regularly makes rude and insulting comments often without any provocation.

It's a dig at the republican platform, for sure.

So #nevertrump, to you, is mostly about him being a rude liar?

I would just say more broadly it is about being a horrible representative of what the party stands for. It is alienating to a bunch of people, not just the hard core establishment.

yeah, is he alienating people by being rude?

[catastrophe]

By being an unqualified and horrible person for the party that typically promotes religious values (and, quite frankly, meritocracy).

[Rage Against the McKee]

He's not alienating the awful racists that get pandered to every election, if that's who you are referring to, mighigancat. That's why he's winning.

[DQ12]

Yeah the rudeness is a funny thing.  I think it helps him more than it hurts him.  And the problem is that people mistake his "rudeness" for "genuineness."  But being a dick doesn't make you any more genuine than being civil does, it just makes you a dick.

[chuckjames]

Trump isnt winning a general, no matter what anybody tells you about YUGE white turnout.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-needs-7-of-10-white-guys-213699?o=2

[XocolateThundarr]

If I'm on team #BID, which candidate should I vote for? 

[Rage Against the McKee]

If I'm on team #BID, which candidate should I vote for?

It sort of depends on why you want to #BID.

[michigancat]

Which of his policies are crazy to the republican party?

Build a wall to keep out illegals?

Starting unnecessary wars?

Torturing prisoners of war?

Killing the families of suspected terrorists?

I mean, Obama pretty much does all of that crap, just a lightweight version.

lol, that logic puts no value on moderation and reduces the world down into binary decisions

There is no value in moderation when it comes to torture or starting bogus wars IMO. Like, what would you consider to be moderate torture?