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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #550 on: September 01, 2015, 10:52:21 PM »
Talking about something else doesn't answer my question, thanks I'm good.

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« Reply #551 on: September 01, 2015, 10:57:24 PM »
Talking about something else doesn't answer my question, thanks I'm good.

LOL.   Why are there growing numbers in minority communities asking why they supported Obama?   It's a multi-faceted issue, rife with politics and getting elected again and again.   But hey, you're good.


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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #552 on: September 01, 2015, 10:58:37 PM »
Please explain how the democratic party can simultaneously be the welfare party, wealth redistributing socialists, and not care about the poor and disadvantaged? That's an amazing trick.

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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #553 on: September 01, 2015, 11:09:25 PM »
Talking about something else doesn't answer my question, thanks I'm good.

LOL.   Why are there growing numbers in minority communities asking why they supported Obama?   It's a multi-faceted issue, rife with politics and getting elected again and again.   But hey, you're good.

How did we get diverted to talking about "minority communities" when we were previously discussing the poor and disadvantaged? I'm not poor and disadvantaged, nor do I live in a "minority community" but I'm disappointed in Obama because he wasn't strong enough in pushing a more liberal agenda and he capitulated far too much to conservatives. Now that we're done with that will you ever tell me how democrats can redistribute wealth and simultaneously be accused of not caring about the poor and disadvantaged? If they are giving poor people rich people's money it would appear to me that they care for the poor and disadvantaged more than the people who don't want to give them anything, seems very common sense-y, dax.

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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #554 on: September 02, 2015, 06:45:11 AM »
There are many people who don't want government hand outs, they want opportunity.  Oh, this isn't about you, wow.

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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #555 on: September 02, 2015, 08:37:12 AM »
Trumps new found religion might be down there with the average Dem's heartfelt concern with the plight of the poor and disadvantaged . . . once they've voted.

Please explain how the democratic party can simultaneously be the welfare party, wealth redistributing socialists, and not care about the poor and disadvantaged? That's an amazing trick.

Because they run on the lie that their changes will actually help the poor when in fact in the long term it will hurt them. The funny thing is that the shortsighted liberals just eat that stuff up. I WANT FREE STUFF NOW! I DONT CARE ABOUT HOW IT WILL HURT ME IN THE FUTURE!

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« Reply #556 on: September 02, 2015, 09:32:14 AM »
It's like taking away your kids' participation trophies. Bad for approval ratings but it shows you really care.

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« Reply #557 on: September 02, 2015, 10:39:10 AM »
Trumps new found religion might be down there with the average Dem's heartfelt concern with the plight of the poor and disadvantaged . . . once they've voted.

Please explain how the democratic party can simultaneously be the welfare party, wealth redistributing socialists, and not care about the poor and disadvantaged? That's an amazing trick.

Because they run on the lie that their changes will actually help the poor when in fact in the long term it will hurt them. The funny thing is that the shortsighted liberals just eat that stuff up. I WANT FREE STUFF NOW! I DONT CARE ABOUT HOW IT WILL HURT ME IN THE FUTURE!

So is it your contention that supposed income redistribution and social programs are actually ruses to harm poor people by keeping them poor? The best way to help the disadvantaged is to do nothing and we will rid the country of crippling wealth disparity and homelessness just by those people being forced to go it alone?

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« Reply #558 on: September 02, 2015, 10:45:39 AM »
No one is saying do nothing, once again MIR takes it to the absolute extreme.   


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« Reply #559 on: September 02, 2015, 12:49:38 PM »
Idk, I have heard many a pub say that doing nothing for them is exactly what the poor need to bootstrap themselves. 

I have also heard many a pub say that welfare, assistance, etc is designed to keep ppl poor. 


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« Reply #560 on: September 02, 2015, 01:34:57 PM »
Idk, I have heard many a pub say that doing nothing for them is exactly what the poor need to bootstrap themselves. 

I have also heard many a pub say that welfare, assistance, etc is designed to keep ppl poor.

It's hampering their desire and need to contribute to society. Why work when you can just be poor, collect $$ and not give an F? For years i've been an advocate of cutting those programs and using those millions, if not billions, in other ways to promote ways to get people off the street and back to work.

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« Reply #561 on: September 02, 2015, 01:42:12 PM »
Okay, well great.  I'd like for you to define "do nothing" and please direct me to any welfare or similar program that's been eliminated . . . Under any administration. 

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« Reply #562 on: September 02, 2015, 01:42:54 PM »
Don't a large majority of people on assistance have jobs?
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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #563 on: September 02, 2015, 06:47:14 PM »
Idk, I have heard many a pub say that doing nothing for them is exactly what the poor need to bootstrap themselves. 

I have also heard many a pub say that welfare, assistance, etc is designed to keep ppl poor.

It's hampering their desire and need to contribute to society. Why work when you can just be poor, collect $$ and not give an F?

Holy eff! Does this stupidity also extend to farmers who receive subsidies?

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« Reply #564 on: September 03, 2015, 01:36:31 AM »
Idk, I have heard many a pub say that doing nothing for them is exactly what the poor need to bootstrap themselves. 

I have also heard many a pub say that welfare, assistance, etc is designed to keep ppl poor.

It's hampering their desire and need to contribute to society. Why work when you can just be poor, collect $$ and not give an F?

Holy eff! Does this stupidity also extend to farmers who receive subsidies?

Yes. Cutting subsidies and loosening regulations on farming and crop markets would provide a much more robust and innovative industry. Farmers seem content with the status quo.

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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #565 on: September 03, 2015, 02:54:09 AM »
Idk, I have heard many a pub say that doing nothing for them is exactly what the poor need to bootstrap themselves. 

I have also heard many a pub say that welfare, assistance, etc is designed to keep ppl poor.

It's hampering their desire and need to contribute to society. Why work when you can just be poor, collect $$ and not give an F?

Holy eff! Does this stupidity also extend to farmers who receive subsidies?

Yes. Cutting subsidies and loosening regulations on farming and crop markets would provide a much more robust and innovative industry. Farmers seem content with the status quo.

If farm subsidies went away Syngenta, Monsanto, and Pioneer would own every farm in America within the first 15 minutes after they expired.

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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #566 on: September 03, 2015, 08:28:59 AM »
Evangelicals flocking to Trump

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/why-do-evangelicals-support-donald-trump/403591/

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The answer seems to be the growing anti-establishment sentiments held by many evangelical Christians. (After all, the Tea Party movement draws “disproportionate support” from their ranks.) Not only are conservative Christians solidly Republican, they are also fierce traditionalists who feel that their values are increasingly under assault by modern society.

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« Reply #567 on: September 03, 2015, 08:43:42 AM »
The hilarious thing is Trump really doesn't have a value system that's anywhere close in line with supposedly evangelical values.    Trump is saying some things that need to be said and that of course is causing a leftist progressive meltdown who in their own right have absolutely zero tolerance for any views or opinions that don't align firmly with their own and they are easily the largest collective of straight line voters in the populace.     But Trump is going to fade away IMO.


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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #568 on: September 03, 2015, 08:53:06 AM »
I always enjoy when one extremist accuses other extremists of straight line voting  :D
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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #569 on: September 03, 2015, 09:03:31 AM »
I've never straight line voted in my life.   

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« Reply #570 on: September 03, 2015, 09:13:21 AM »
Not everything is about you dax
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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #571 on: September 03, 2015, 09:13:59 AM »
Dax is right in that it is hilariously obvious that Trump doesn't GAF about any of the social issues that the religious right are rallying behind him about.   :lol:

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Re: The Trump Candidacy
« Reply #573 on: September 03, 2015, 09:31:17 AM »
The hilarious thing is Trump really doesn't have a value system that's anywhere close in line with supposedly evangelical values.    Trump is saying some things that need to be said and that of course is causing a leftist progressive meltdown who in their own right have absolutely zero tolerance for any views or opinions that don't align firmly with their own and they are easily the largest collective of straight line voters in the populace.     But Trump is going to fade away IMO.

What the hell does any of this have to do with "leftist progressives?" Did Trump win the Republican nomination overnight?

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« Reply #574 on: September 03, 2015, 09:33:09 AM »
The hilarious thing is Trump really doesn't have a value system that's anywhere close in line with supposedly evangelical values.    Trump is saying some things that need to be said and that of course is causing a leftist progressive meltdown who in their own right have absolutely zero tolerance for any views or opinions that don't align firmly with their own and they are easily the largest collective of straight line voters in the populace.     But Trump is going to fade away IMO.

What the hell does any of this have to do with "leftist progressives?" Did Trump win the Republican nomination overnight?

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