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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #250 on: March 08, 2016, 11:28:45 AM »
Is there anything wrong with saying "We're really going to try and win 4 games this week and make the NCAA tournament. Its going to be very tough, there are no easy games, but we will go to Kansas City and try and win a bid to the NCAA tournament."

Like, is there anything wrong with saying that? Sure winning 4 games against OSU, KU, Texas, and WVU or whatever it would end up being is extremely extremely unlikely, but why not say "hey we're going to try and do something special this week."?
because looking ahead to what could potentially happen is so far out of bruces realm he would never think that way.

i really do hate everything about the guy
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 11:32:00 AM by kslim »

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #251 on: March 08, 2016, 11:53:25 AM »
why raise the bar on yourself or the team? set it as low as possible so that if we do somehow by the grace of god manage to find a way to beat osu, then he's really done something. he's just priming his audience and anybody with half a mind already hated him the day we hired him.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #252 on: March 08, 2016, 12:15:06 PM »
Last I heard him talk about OSU, it was "the game will likely come down to a couple of 3s going in or a big turnover." Sounds like nothing we can do but go out there and let fate decide.  No sense in game planning or anything, just cross your fingers.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #253 on: March 08, 2016, 12:21:28 PM »
Last I heard him talk about OSU, it was "the game will likely come down to a couple of 3s going in or a big turnover." Sounds like nothing we can do but go out there and let fate decide.  No sense in game planning or anything, just cross your fingers.

basketball is essentially a game of chance. kind of like the lottery.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #254 on: March 08, 2016, 12:25:15 PM »
The mindset is fundamentally wrong for a head coach. Its no wonder that programs fall apart under his leadership and I have no idea how he was able to get better at Southern Illinois.

The entire defeatest, "I'm accountable, I guess" tone he sets through the media is unbearable as a fan.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #255 on: March 08, 2016, 12:33:26 PM »
I read that article last night and idk how D doesn't laugh in oscar's fat face at them

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #258 on: March 08, 2016, 12:40:03 PM »
"If we can find a way to beat Oklahoma State we’ll play our 17th game against a top-25 RPI. No one else is going to be able to do that in the country. Our record outside of that is really, really good."

I mean, what in the heck is this? What does this even mean?

You don't become good by absorbing the good from better teams when you play them. We've won 2 of those freakin' games oscar! 12.5%! Playing good teams and losing, even if you lose close, does not make you good.

And then compound it by saying "our record outside of that is really good"? I don't even. We beat 2 goodish teams rated between 51 and 100 and went 12-1 against bad teams rated 100 or greater in the RPI. All of that proves absolutely nothing.

Basically oscar is touting the fact that this team is the definition of mediocre.

Unbelievable.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #259 on: March 08, 2016, 12:43:08 PM »
i'm not going to step on anyone's reasons to hire underwood.  but personally, i don't care at all what weber says.  if anything, the weirder he is, the more i like him (less i dislike him).
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #260 on: March 08, 2016, 12:51:04 PM »
All the complaining about how tough our schedule was this year is preposterous. You had 16 games to prove that you were a good basketball team. You had fifteen chances to show that you weren't an awful basketball team. Failed at the first, succeeded at the latter. It makes you average at best. OWN IT oscar!
This is who I am...I have no problem crying. - Jerome Tang

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #261 on: March 08, 2016, 12:53:52 PM »
I think you guys are forgetting about the key injuries.  The ball bounces our way only a few times this year and we are looking at a nine seed and oscar is COY.    I don't think you can be a kenpom top 50 team without being pretty good.  Too bad you can't see that.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #262 on: March 08, 2016, 12:54:39 PM »
Shut the eff up chingon

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #263 on: March 08, 2016, 12:56:42 PM »
tell mr pomeroy to shut up

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #264 on: March 08, 2016, 12:57:31 PM »
The new board name needs to be "KSU Hoops: where excuses are facts".

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #265 on: March 08, 2016, 01:03:09 PM »
excuses are probably facts


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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #266 on: March 08, 2016, 01:05:31 PM »
i think a lot of the time what coaches say after losses gets blown way out of proportion. it's hard to sound good when you're not winning.

but with oscar it's more than that. i think _BBB makes some good points about his mindset/mentality and how it affects the entire dynamic and culture of the program.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #267 on: March 08, 2016, 01:07:17 PM »
i mean, they had 3 ot conference games plus the 1 point loss to texas.  so if they had 4 possessions resulting in scores to end those games and nothing else changed, they'd have gone 9-9 and very likely be in the tournament.  that's definitely factual.

maybe he should have said these are facts and probably also excuses.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #268 on: March 08, 2016, 01:12:05 PM »
maybe he should have said these are facts and probably also excuses.

I guess, probably.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 01:25:00 PM by ksu_BBB »

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #269 on: March 08, 2016, 01:16:51 PM »
i guess he actually said that if you win two or three of them you're probably in the tourney.  i disagree with that winning two would have been enough and i won't be convinced that three would have been until i see a bunch of super shitty teams like monmouth being allowed in on sunday.  so maybe it's not so facty.  he should have said four.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #270 on: March 08, 2016, 01:34:46 PM »
I think all excuses have to be factual don't they?  Otherwise its not really an excuse anymore, but simply a lie.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #271 on: March 08, 2016, 01:41:31 PM »
there could be excuses that are speculation or conjecture.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #272 on: March 08, 2016, 01:46:52 PM »
I think you guys are forgetting about the key injuries.  The ball bounces our way only a few times this year and we are looking at a nine seed and oscar is COY.    I don't think you can be a kenpom top 50 team without being pretty good.  Too bad you can't see that.

The ball bouncing the other way talk needs to stop.  We somehow managed to win four close games.  The ball could have bounced he other way in those games and we could have lost.  We were basically 4-5 in close games, which is mediocre.  Which is what we are.

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #273 on: March 08, 2016, 01:48:18 PM »
no one is saying that they couldn't have been worse, boston pancake.  i doubt if any of the reporters even asked weber to speculate in that direction.
"experienced commanders will simply be smeared and will actually go to the meat."

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Re: ExBruces 2015-16
« Reply #274 on: March 08, 2016, 01:50:02 PM »
Clearly if you want spin this negatively you can, but the probable facts are that this team is 5 points from being in the NCAA tournament. I think we can score five more points next year with the core we have coming back.